Fuzing Armors Results Thread

[Synovia]

Wow thousands? That's probably more than I've ever done in all my time playing.

Okay, so tell me what's more reliable:

One person that happens to have a friend that manages to fuse a maelstrom+, an epic armor, with no proof whatsoever, OR
A way larger (over a hundred more) of long time and more respectable players and forum members who have been doing countless of fuses and have never even gotten a rare + armor?

When we're talking very low probabilities, neither is.


Also, you're completely ignoring the fact that GREE just changed the damn fusion code again, which means that all previous data is pretty much useless.

[Synovia]

You're just being fickle.

And you're just being ignorant.

[deathexe]

When we're talking very low probabilities, neither is.


Also, you're completely ignoring the fact that GREE just changed the damn fusion code again, which means that all previous data is pretty much useless.

I haven't ignored that fact at all. A change in the code doesn't mean that + versions are fusable. Furthermore, I was referring to players who have been fusing since the fusion update where more epic boss armors are fusable.

[Synovia]

I haven't ignored that fact at all. A change in the code doesn't mean that + versions are fusable.

An assumption with no evidence, either for or against.

Furthermore, I was referring to players who have been fusing since the fusion update where more epic boss armors are fusable.

Irrelevant. Again, none of us have any idea what Gree changes with each update/patch.

It would be to everyone's advantage and enlightenment if you stop assuming that you know exactly what Gree changed before they do.

[busteroaf]

An assumption with no evidence, either for or against.

Irrelevant. Again, none of us have any idea what Gree changes with each update/patch.

It would be to everyone's advantage and enlightenment if you stop assuming that you know exactly what Gree changed before they do.

An assumption by someone who is respected in the community and has likely logged much more play time is likely to be more accurate than someone who no one knows claiming "a guild mate did such and such"

[drygores]

How about you all just stop fighting? Not gonna change anything. Just wait for more data. To soon to call anything right now, wait for hundreds more to be fused. I wanna check on results, not watching people argue all day.

[deathexe]

An assumption with no evidence, either for or against.


Irrelevant. Again, none of us have any idea what Gree changes with each update/patch.

It would be to everyone's advantage and enlightenment if you stop assuming that you know exactly what Gree changed before they do.

I have made no assumption in my post. I never said that the patch didn't bring about + fusion, I said that it doesn't necessarily mean + fusion is available. Secondly, it is a FACT that I have stated about the update where more boss armors have been made fusable, once again, no assumption made.

[deathexe]

How about you all just stop fighting? Not gonna change anything. Just wait for more data. To soon to call anything right now, wait for hundreds more to be fused. I wanna check on results, not watching people argue all day.

True enough, my apologies for the somewhat off topic comments.

[Synovia]

An assumption by someone who is respected in the community and has likely logged much more play time is likely to be more accurate than someone who no one knows claiming "a guild mate did such and such"

No, its not.

Let me introduce you to a logical fallacy: http://www.logicalfallacies.info/rel...-to-authority/

None of us have access to Gree's code, which means that none of our assumptions are based on any sort of evidence.

[Issaquah]

Synovia, taking your logic I can hypothesize that since they modified the fusion code, I might be able to fuse a lvl 1common water with a lvl 1 common fire and get a maxed Tectonic +...especially since someone posted they did it!

Meanwhile we can toss out the consistent experiences that NO ONE has provided proof of a + version because the code has been changed.

[Synovia]

Synovia, taking your logic I can hypothesize that since they modified the fusion code, I might be able to fuse a lvl 1common water with a lvl 1 common fire and get a maxed Tectonic +...especially since someone posted they did it!

My logic says "We don't know, so we should stop assuming".

Meanwhile we can toss out the consistent experiences that NO ONE has provided proof of a + version because the code has been changed.

Clearly you've never worked in software design, if you're being sarcastic here. I can guarantee that GREE isn't regression testing their code, which means that there's no way to tell what sort of side effects an innocuos looking code change can cause.

[drygores]

Just shut the hell up everyone. Just give it time, if its possible it'll happen. If its not it won't. Simple as that. This isn't a theory thread, ifs a fusion RESULT thread.

[Synovia]

Just give it time, if its possible it'll happen. If its not it won't.

Which is exactly what I'm saying.


When you change code, you have to start your data collection again. The problem is that people like Buster want to keep using the old data from the old code that is no longer relevant.

[Street Shark]

Eldritch keepers robes + boiler plate = swamp shaman

[busteroaf]

Which is exactly what I'm saying.

When you change code, you have to start your data collection again. The problem is that people like Buster want to keep using the old data from the old code that is no longer relevant.

Yes, because I don't want to immediately take the word of some guy who has no prior posts on the forum, saying a guild member said he fused an epic+ with two level 36 armors.

Because it would be based on no longer relevant code, even though the same fusion results are happening to many people, with a few extras saying Moontide is now fusable, even though some are saying they used armors that "previously, based on old code" wouldn't be allowed to be fused. (two of the same element in the fusion). That is the only change we've seen so far.

Should I try fusing basics 1000 times to make sure I'm still guaranteed a 50ep armor from f/a, f/e, s/a, s/w combos before people need to believe it again? Yes, I can't prove/disprove that + versions are/aren't in the fusion table, but... you know what, logical fallacy or not, I'm sticking with what I've seen personally, and trusting certain peoples "results" over others, even if it is old data. Sue me.