Fuzing Armors Results Thread

[-Solo-]

The vast majority of users on this forum are using their fusion stones on recipes that can't possibly produce an epic

You're ignorant if you think that. The vast majority of forum users know what they are getting when using fusing stars for 50ep armors (why even include that). When people use 3* and 4* fodder in fusion, they are trying for epics. As for the + from fusion, even if it's a .000001%, there is bound to be someone on the game that would post it if they actually got it from fusion. Since there has been nothing but 'my brother/mother/father/great dead granddad' hearsays, it's pretty accurate to say it's impossible.

[busteroaf]

Who says it is? The vast majority of users on this forum are using their fusion stones on recipes that can't possibly produce an epic (basic stone and basic fire, etc), and the vast majority of players aren't on this forum.

Plus, if you read the original post, he was fusing highly leveled armors. The vast majority of fusions are level 1s.

Actually, there have been plenty of lvl 35+ fusions, which is where the "armor level factors into rarity" discussion comes from. Many people fuse away their regular versions of boss armors after they have the ability to craft the + version, so they instantly think "my armor was higher level, I got good results, it must mean something."

As of yet, there is very little to support either of these theories. And until someone can provide conclusive proof, or Gree actually comes out and gives a definitive statement that certain factors increase/decrease chance/rarity, you kinda just have to take the word of those who have been playing the game longer. Well, more so vs. someone who just made their first post and claim to know someone who got a +version of an epic.

[Synovia]

You're ignorant if you think that. The vast majority of forum users know what they are getting when using fusing stars for 50ep armors (why even include that). When people use 3* and 4* fodder in fusion, they are trying for epics. As for the + from fusion, even if it's a .000001%, there is bound to be someone on the game that would post it if they actually got it from fusion. Since there has been nothing but 'my brother/mother/father/great dead granddad' hearsays, it's pretty accurate to say it's impossible.

Are you really arguing that more Fusion stones are being used fusing 4 stars together than on 50 EP armors? Really?

As for the + from fusion, even if it's a .000001%, there is bound to be someone on the game that would post it if they actually got it from fusion.

Someone just did, jackwagon.

[Synovia]

Exactly. I think any high lvl guild can attest to the amount of fusions required to get max lvl in a guild. And in all the guilds that make it to the top not a single Wavecharmer+ nor Firestorm Finery+ has been forged.

But we KNOW that fusing basics works differently than fusing 4 stars. Basics only ever give 1 result. You can't fuse a basic stone and basic spirit and get anything but Chimera. Nothing else is like that, so its entirely possible that we're looking at different pieces of code. Different lookup tables, etc.

[busteroaf]

Are you really arguing that more Fusion stones are being used fusing 4 stars together than on 50 EP armors? Really?

They didn't say that. They are talking from experience. Re-read what they wrote.

Someone just did, jackwagon.

Actually, if you read a couple posts after the original...

Not trying to put misinformation out there. Just joined the forums and wanted to relay what he told me. He may just be scared to admit he dropped a ton of gems on chests haha. All I know is he has it.

This seems much more likely of a situation.

[deathexe]

Someone just did, jackwagon.

Technically, someone just claimed that their friend did, and that itself, is not enough proof.

[Synovia]

They didn't say that. They are talking from experience. Re-read what they wrote.
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Thats exactly what he said.

I said that the vast majority of Fusion stones are used to make 50 EP armors that only have one possible outcome, and he said:

You're ignorant if you think that.

So yes, he did say that.

[-Solo-]

Are you really arguing that more Fusion stones are being used fusing 4 stars together than on 50 EP armors? Really?

Did I say that? No. It's pretty much what deathaxe said.

Someone just did, jackwagon.

Some guy who just made a new account and as his first post. Totally believable vs the hundred other players who have fused and have never gotten a +, much less an epic+.

[deathexe]

But we KNOW that fusing basics works differently than fusing 4 stars. Basics only ever give 1 result. You can't fuse a basic stone and basic spirit and get anything but Chimera. Nothing else is like that, so its entirely possible that we're looking at different pieces of code. Different lookup tables, etc.

By the way, you CAN get more than one result. Fusing fire/earth would yield both molten shroud or volcanic mantle. Also, if Gree made epic+ fusable, it would make sense to make all the other + armors fusable too, whether rare, super rare, legendary or epic.

Edit: also, it's possible to get brawlers from basic earth/spirit. Just wanted to point that out.

[busteroaf]

Also, I'm tempted to believe someone like Aiden or Solo much more readily than a new poster, based on the fact they've been playing for much longer, and know the ins and outs of the game and its mechanics.

But you on the other hand want to believe the new guy. You rebel you!

[Synovia]

Also, I'm tempted to believe someone like Aiden or Solo much more readily than a new poster, based on the fact they've been playing for much longer, and know the ins and outs of the game and its mechanics.

But you on the other hand want to believe the new guy. You rebel you!

Way to just make **** up, and put words in my mouth.

I didn't say I believe the new guy. I don't. I said it was possible, and that your protestations that its not are based on ignorance.

its impossible to prove a negative.

[The Pale Rider]

Has anyone confirmed that moontide is fusable? So far I've seen a couple of my friend did it posts and one new poster claiming it.

[Synovia]

By the way, you CAN get more than one result. Fusing fire/earth would yield both molten shroud or volcanic mantle. Also, if Gree made epic+ fusable, it would make sense to make all the other + armors fusable too, whether rare, super rare, legendary or epic.

Edit: also, it's possible to get brawlers from basic earth/spirit. Just wanted to point that out.

I have used literally thousands of fusion stones on the basic fire/basic earth combination, and never received anything other than volcanic mantle.

Therefore it is impossible to get molten shroud. [See how ridiculous that sounds?]

[-Solo-]

You're just being fickle.

[deathexe]

I have used literally thousands of fusion stones on the basic fire/basic earth combination, and never received anything other than volcanic mantle.

Therefore it is impossible to get molten shroud. [See how ridiculous that sounds?]

Wow thousands? That's probably more than I've ever done in all my time playing.

Okay, so tell me what's more reliable:

One person that happens to have a friend that manages to fuse a maelstrom+, an epic armor, with no proof whatsoever, OR
A way larger (over a hundred more) of long time and more respectable players and forum members who have been doing countless of fuses and have never even gotten a rare + armor?

The thing is, we can't just take the word of anyone and go around spreading the news that + armors are fusable without solid evidence, if not we'd just be misleading everyone and end up wasting their fusion stars and armors. + armors have never been fusable, and no one will believe they are until solid evidence is given from a respectable enough member.