**OFFICIAL** Feedback and Suggestions Thread!

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Originally Posted by White Avenger

I strongly disagree with your statement. Purpose of the game is to have a time sink "of" fun. Not to have a time sink of boredom. They made the time sink of leveling your character fun. Each level meant my character got stronger, their was a direct correlation in my satisfaction of getting stronger without making it too difficult. It was not mind numbing boring. Hence the reason I started playing the game and continued. If the effort of leveling was too boring (too long) I would have quit and spent no money.

However after 20 weeks of doing the same thing over and over and over again which I consider boring means Gree is not doing their job in entertaining me. But it's not only me it's hundreds of others in your guilds that just stop playing. You know the ones you and I boot out of the guild right after a war because they lost interest and don't show up. Some of them are loaded down with epics but still quit because of the mind numbing repetitiveness of the game. The ones that spend money on the game but still quit because life after 100 is too boring.

Effort and fun must balance. In my opinion it is not.

There should be an effort to get something good but when they cross the line into boredom the purpose of a distraction for fun is lost. Therefore, the entire purpose of the game's main function does not attain its goal. A happy customer spends money a bored one does not. Money lost is not the goal. Most people want to see a "direct" correlation of effort and my character getting better. Leveling something just to throw it away is not a direct correlation. It's an unnecessary time sink. Leveling the plus version is a sufficient enough effort after killing the boss mob for the 43rd time.

Everyone has thier own opinion but my tolerance for boredom will only last so long. There are too many games out thier that want me as a customer. Right now I'm not satisfied with the game. My wallet is closed and will continue to be closed until I see improvement if not I will eventually be that next person that just stops coming to the Wars and game. But by that time it won't matter for I would have found a replacement game.

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It sounds like you've already decided to move on. Sorry that guild wars, random events, things like that bore you. For some, its a challenge of "how fast can I beat the epic boss without spending gems" or "how far can I go with 1 knight with X armor". Others like seeing how many armors they can level. Others, like you, find it mind-numbingly boring. You get out of the game what you want. If the weekly boss is that boring for you, don't bother. Oh wait, you need to to keep up with the other armors... man, bummer. Just like farming raid mats in MMO's. You have to put in the time if you want to excel at the fun/challenging stuff later.

And you keep saying time sink. You admit its a time sink. If its a fun time sink or a boring time sink, its still a time sink. I'm sorry that you don't find it fun anymore, but it also keeps the balance of the game in check. If low level players could easily farm a fully leveled boss armor, or you didn't have to level it to 35 to unlock the + version, then craft again, what would stop the brand new players from power leveling themselves with overpowered armors compared to the storyline? Then what? Then they sit and wait for something "fun" to do?

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Originally Posted by busteroaf

It sounds like you've already decided to move on. Sorry that guild wars, random events, things like that bore you. For some, its a challenge of "how fast can I beat the epic boss without spending gems" or "how far can I go with 1 knight with X armor". Others like seeing how many armors they can level. Others, like you, find it mind-numbingly boring. You get out of the game what you want. If the weekly boss is that boring for you, don't bother. Oh wait, you need to to keep up with the other armors... man, bummer. Just like farming raid mats in MMO's. You have to put in the time if you want to excel at the fun/challenging stuff later.

And you keep saying time sink. You admit its a time sink. If its a fun time sink or a boring time sink, its still a time sink. I'm sorry that you don't find it fun anymore, but it also keeps the balance of the game in check. If low level players could easily farm a fully leveled boss armor, or you didn't have to level it to 35 to unlock the + version, then craft again, what would stop the brand new players from power leveling themselves with overpowered armors compared to the storyline? Then what? Then they sit and wait for something "fun" to do?

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Yes. I agree with you that the game takes time. Time sink is a good enough term although it tends to have a negative connotation it serves my purpose.

I consider a low level player lower than 80. As I define it, that person would not be able to get a 43rd kill on the boss mob. He/she would have no chance in getting the plus version. Until you hit or get close to a 100 you are not able to get the 43rd kill therefore you can't jump in line unless you shell out cash.

In my opinion you have already invested a significant amount of time to reach 100. Second, to level several boss armors to 70 you also must have invested time to develop your castle. Without those 11 training fields your going to have a hard time in leveling anything. Recap time invested in the castle and levels must be attained to be in a position to level the boss armor. Even if a brand new player got lucky and got an epic without having a fully developed castle that epic is wasted until the castle is up and running at full capacity.

I still consider the leveling of that legendary armor to 35 an unnecessary time sink. I'm an advocate of removing it or reducing it from 35 to 20 or 25. Regardless we are entrenched in our positions and I don't anything I say will change your opinion or anything you say will change mine - so I guess we can respectfully disagree.

To change subjects to a more broader perspective.

Games that entertain us are successful and I think everyone would agree with that. Developers have to do several things - they must create the carrot of improving your character fun. If they can do this in an aspect of thier game they will be more successful - let's define this as a time sink of fun. However in the effort of trying to keep us entertained to a create a sense accomplishment. If they cross the line into boredom the game success is reduced. The time sink of boredom.

If Gree made every decision based on 3 things, time of fun vs boredom and profit. I don't think they would have ever increased the level of the nemeses armor someone would have questioned the decision. What is the value of fun when you increase the level? Is there more of a sense of accomplishment by doing so? Does it increase the fun value? Are people going to be excited about this and buy a chest because of this?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Elita

Hey everyone!!

Thanks so much for replying to this thread. I'll take some time to read through your suggestions and reply to a few of you. Also, I think this thread a vote or some way to break up all the ideas or categorize them is in order so as not to have repeating ideas or just a long string of ideas. If you've got suggestions on how to do this...PM me!

<3

Elita

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Ehi it's your "job" to read and to categorize them, don't even try you lazy girl! You should open new threads to let us vote the doable ideas ( I think we like everything new which makes the game better than now, it's getting boring )
We just have to play and spend, thank you, we really appreciate your initiative ;)

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Originally Posted by busteroaf

Well, the reason I'm asking you questions is because it was your idea. I have people asking ME what YOU mean by the tier system. How am I supposed to know. But, back to your idea... again, yes, people spend different amounts. If the guild buy in is 5k, or even 2k, or $100... are you automatically entered when someone in your guild buys up to a certain amount? Say someone else decides to bulk buy a ton of gems, does that move you up to the next tier? Is there a requirement of a set number before the guild can participate? Can you set a limit? These are my questions. How do you foresee having a "guild buy in". This is what I'm trying to figure out. As it stands now, all transactions are separate, the guild itself pays nothing, because "guilds" do not have their own accounts. Its not like the guild shares anything, other than a tag, and elemental bonuses. If I was to buy gems, others in my guild have no say on what I spend them on. If you ask the guilds to have their own accounts, then yeah, I see people getting ripped off, and a lot more shady stuff happening.

And your "may the best team win" system... again, you need to define some parameters before you keep talking about it. What are the finite resources? Does the guild "share" a resource pool? Does each individual still get to spend their own share of gems (even though there is a limited buy in... )... I'm just trying to get you to flesh out your idea so it will make any sort of sense to people. And maybe then people would say "yes, this would be in the best interest of the game in the long run."

My system.... Yes, there is obviously going to be spending in my system, but its the smaller scale. The rewards make it nice for some guilds, but they wouldn't be overly "wow" prizes. But still something. Something that just might convince someone to buy a $5 pack of gems to get their guild over the hump and into the next win tier if they know they could possibly win the battle with an energy refresh or two. This won't prompt people to drop $100 extra on war. This is getting the little guy to spend a little, to have that extra little edge. And you don't have to worry if another guild gets 10 wins before you do. As long as you hit a tier, you get the prize. No one can knock you out, etc. Mine doesn't make the larger guilds spend any more money than they already do, since the wins will come anyway. This is for the smaller guilds. People said they want wins to mean something. This is a way they can.

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There are a million ways to skin a cat but here are some ideas for implementation of the logistiics:

Guild payment is accomplished through the guild contribute button. Players have two contribution options:
1 is the contribution to the guild bank option of gold to upgrade our element strengths
2 is the contribution of gems to the guild "war chest" that are used to enter future guild wars.(it would be important that the contribution log be expanded to track war chest contributions over the long term)

Entering the guild war:
The war is announced with tier costs. Guild officers transfer gems from the war chest to Gree and they are entered. Prior to commencing the war, the officers have the ability to exclude players from the war. There are a number of reasons for this. It may be the weakness of the player relative to the battle tier (guilds could save up for months to enter a specific tier and they can only win with their strongest players), or a player may be to busy at work etc..

The exclusion process would happen through the player edit function in the guild member section and would be officer controlled. The exclusion process would need to be limited this could be set by tier level. So the power tier may only allow for 5 exclusions. A middle tier war would allow for 10 lets say....

WAR PLAY:
Each tier is given a set amount of gems to spend on energy along with the current renewal time based process. Gems are divided equally among all the players. The gem division verse players numbers would become a chess match in of itself.

Rewards:
Rewards are by tier and placement within tier. All guild members get the rewards regardless of participation. if you don't want someone to get the reward from the war kick them prior to the start.

By the way there is also an open division that costs nothing to play that works exactly like it currently does minus the high level prizes.

make the top element for attack and bottom for defence, so an earth/spirt would have an earth attack with a spirit défense. this could also introduce "all elements" combinations earth/all which would have an earth attack and is protected against all.

just thoughts

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Originally Posted by Eunuchorn

I also said they need to *REQUIRE 3 KNIGHTS FOR WAR* 10 point knight bonus? Who cares.
In the first war GMs were logging off in 1 armor & were worth crap points. So Gree fixed that & 1-knight GM spam was born.

Why would you have less than 3 knights in your war party?

SA Kill Bonus, Level Difference bonus, Armor Quality bonus, Opponent Armor Quality Bonus, Damage Taken Bonus

I could go on.

They need to make a true stats screen pop up after each fight with true factors translating directly from gameplay to reward.

K&D needs to be treated like a street fighter/mortal combat game.

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Thought I worded this well & figured why retype?

Hi Elita,

I've been playing this game for about 4 - 5 months now.
Firstly, I really like this game. For games that I don't like, it'll only last for about 2 weeks before I put it down. Especially for games that I don't care, I won't even be bother to put in a suggestion.
I think there's a lack in this game. I call it the 'end game vision'.

This game lack of 'end game vision'. Great game always have it. The question to answer is "What will it looked like for players reaching the end game". I'd argue that it's not up to the players or community to decide this (though you can ask for suggestion). It is upto the game developer team, and the original game maker (the person / group who design the game to look like in the first place) to decide this.

Currently, Knights and Dragons end game are as follows:

• PVP battle with guild wars (guilds reaching to the top with the main focus, and only applicable to those who care as well, new artwork, new theme, new armor required)
• Epic boss battle with iteration of 1 week. (new armor, new artwork required)
• New Arena battle with 1 week iteration (new artwork, new theme required)
• Grinding for enhancement on levels

To me this list is exhaustive for a team, because every week, you need to come up with new artwork, make the new EB animation to work, design the new EB, new themes, etc. This is not maintainable in the long run.

What I mean by PVP / PVE focus are:

Some other games did it with PVP focus. Lots of features for PVP. Battle arena, team arena (you can add your guild members / friends list to battle others for example in our case). top player holding (reach to the top, and see if anyone can beat you, the next person beat will become the top holder, the challenge is to see how long you can hold). In this case, you as the development team, don't need to do anything once the features put in place.

Some games are PVE focus. Addition in great contents of PVE, great story line, and massive PVE player community that make the game wonderful. Not to mention some PVE contents that are just extremely difficult no matter what you are using, you will need some sort of strategy and friends to overcome it. I think the pve contents that are just extremely difficult is the main focus in PVE focus games.

I see this game bit lack in both. the Guild Wars is a pvp, whilst epic boss is pve. The both content makes the game not maintainable for developers. You have to come up with new epic bosses and design, new artwork for the tournament with new name "war of the...". That's lots of effort that is definitely not maintainable in the long run. Supposedly if noone buy gems anymore, the game would suddenly become not interesting any longer, because your funding is being cut, and no developers would be developing the game (though I'm just making assumption on your company's funding structure here).

I'd argue, we don't need new bosses / armor. We need new features of the game that'd make the game more interesting. To proceed, I'd focus on one particular development first, either PVP or PVE content. These are the basis of the end game structure.

Having said that, it does not hurt to have new content such as new bosses or armor. But in this case, priority matters. I'd vote for better pvp / pve content rather than having new war themes / armor / epic bosses every week. You can use old content in the mean time for epic bosses, war themes.

My 2 cents.

~ Oyster

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Originally Posted by Oyster

Hi Elita,

I've been playing this game for about 4 - 5 months now.
Firstly, I really like this game. For games that I don't like, it'll only last for about 2 weeks before I put it down. Especially for games that I don't care, I won't even be bother to put in a suggestion.
I think there's a lack in this game. I call it the 'end game vision'.

This game lack of 'end game vision'. Great game always have it. The question to answer is "What will it looked like for players reaching the end game". I'd argue that it's not up to the players or community to decide this (though you can ask for suggestion). It is upto the game developer team, and the original game maker (the person / group who design the game to look like in the first place) to decide this.

Currently, Knights and Dragons end game are as follows:

• PVP battle with guild wars (guilds reaching to the top with the main focus, and only applicable to those who care as well, new artwork, new theme, new armor required)
• Epic boss battle with iteration of 1 week. (new armor, new artwork required)
• New Arena battle with 1 week iteration (new artwork, new theme required)
• Grinding for enhancement on levels

To me this list is exhaustive for a team, because every week, you need to come up with new artwork, make the new EB animation to work, design the new EB, new themes, etc. This is not maintainable in the long run.

What I mean by PVP / PVE focus are:

Some other games did it with PVP focus. Lots of features for PVP. Battle arena, team arena (you can add your guild members / friends list to battle others for example in our case). top player holding (reach to the top, and see if anyone can beat you, the next person beat will become the top holder, the challenge is to see how long you can hold). In this case, you as the development team, don't need to do anything once the features put in place.

Some games are PVE focus. Addition in great contents of PVE, great story line, and massive PVE player community that make the game wonderful. Not to mention some PVE contents that are just extremely difficult no matter what you are using, you will need some sort of strategy and friends to overcome it. I think the pve contents that are just extremely difficult is the main focus in PVE focus games.

I see this game bit lack in both. the Guild Wars is a pvp, whilst epic boss is pve. The both content makes the game not maintainable for developers. You have to come up with new epic bosses and design, new artwork for the tournament with new name "war of the...". That's lots of effort that is definitely not maintainable in the long run. Supposedly if noone buy gems anymore, the game would suddenly become not interesting any longer, because your funding is being cut, and no developers would be developing the game (though I'm just making assumption on your company's funding structure here).

I'd argue, we don't need new bosses / armor. We need new features of the game that'd make the game more interesting. To proceed, I'd focus on one particular development first, either PVP or PVE content. These are the basis of the end game structure.

Having said that, it does not hurt to have new content such as new bosses or armor. But in this case, priority matters. I'd vote for better pvp / pve content rather than having new war themes / armor / epic bosses every week. You can use old content in the mean time for epic bosses, war themes.

My 2 cents.

~ Oyster

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I think they are already aware of the problem. I don't see a problem if they get player feedback. Actually most games do this. Even games like WoW, Guild Wars and Diablo obtain alot of feedback from players to improve the game. It doesn't have to come solely from the developers. The only reason its different is because they have a very long beta testing phase, which just does not happen in the mobile industry due to the short life of the products. Some mobile games just last for a few months before being phased out.

And I think when this game was made, they developers never expected it to be so profitable, which leads to the lack of vision. As they never planned for this game to be so huge.

I think constructive and specific ideas on how they could improve the game would be good.

Anyways I think adapting concepts from other mobile games would be good. Like what the others have said.

I agree with what you say tho, we need more end game content. It takes about 1-3 months to reach level 100 and after that it gets abit old. Especially when you get maxed armors. I already have 4 maxed epics and about 6 epics. For players at the max level we always want to continue developing our characters. Higher stats, more bonuses etc. I think there should a focus on developing high level content as most of the largest spenders are all the max levels players.

I think the following additions to the game would greatly improve the end game player experience. From the development side I'm not sure if the coding is available or if its possible but it would be great if some of the recommendations can be implemented.

I think the new content should be good for Gree = more new revenue and also for the players new content.


1. Guild Wars
Additional depth into the guild aspect of the game.

a) New guardians/Special guardians.
- This guardians would have special abilities such as, 1st strike or +2% attack/ +2% defense, +50/150HP.
- The special guardian could be upgraded eg: lvl 1 - 10. +2% attack/2%defense to max of 11%.
- Limited to 1 type of guardian per guild. So we would need to choose either a attacking guardian, defending guardian or + HP guardian.
- Guardian cannot be killed, either make it a passive ability or active ability but only applies in guild wars battle.
- Perhaps an active ability would make it more fun. +5% defense for 10/15 minutes. So a highly coordinated guild could perhaps capitalized more on this as they would be able to synchronize their attacks to gain from the time bonus.
-If guardians have active ability with cool down. Gems could be used to speed up cool down. More money for Gree, =). 20-30 gems to speed up cool down of active abilities. 4 hours cool down. So if a guild wants to use it. Ie, active ability lasts for 15 minutes. Guilds that want to use the ability 4 times throughout the war would gem 4 times which = to 80-120 gems for Gree.

b) Titles with abilities
- Primary titles in the guild, ie: Guild Master, Sentinel and Champion will have unique abilities.
- Sentinel has a guard ability maybe +5% defense for 5 minutes which can be used to strategically defend the guild and this can be seen in the guild announcement so that the opposing can respond effectively.
- Guild master might have the +5% attack ability for 5 minutes and Champion have +50 life for 5 minutes ability which can be activated once per war or has a cool down maybe once every 4-6 hours.
- We can use gem to speed up the cool down. 20 gems to remove cool down.

c) Increase guild level cap to lvl 100 and add more depth of guild bonuses
- Increase player limit by 5-10, but allow guild to reach level 100. Progession, required to keep players interested
- Increase the type of bonuses that could be obtained via guilds, i.e: HP bonus +10 HP per level up to 10 levels with a max +100HP.
- Increase attack/ increase defense by 1% per level.
- Bonuses above work the same as elemental bonuses currently above.
- At least guilds would have more incentive to purchase more bonuses.
- Able to use gems to purchase bonuses.
- Guild gem bank, which is used to purchase bonuses. Make it an option to use gems instead of gold to purchase bonuses I.e 100 million gold or 10,000 gems for level 10 elemental bonus, 50 million gold or 50000 gems for level 7. Etc.

2. New epic armor or capes with abilities
- New Epics could give +5% def/ +5%atk or +25/50 HP for all knights or for the knight equipping the armor.
- The new EB could give 1/2% def/attack or +5/10 HP.
- New capes with abilities such as +1/2% def attack (free ones - can be bought with Gold) and gems cape (+5/10% atk/def/HP). 50-200 gems. Depending on stats give by cape.

3. Limited time LEGENDARY Boss (To fight as a guild)
- We could adapt the epic bosses from other mobile RPG, summon bosses of different difficulties to score points. An alternative to guild wars. Top 10 guilds win new EPIC armor and #1 wins Epic+.
- Eg: Boss difficulty, Easy (one star), Medium (2 star), Hard, (3 star), Nightmare (4 star), Hell (5 star), Insane (6 star), Heroic (7 star). Same boss but different Evolutions. Something like the bosses in Blood Brothers.
- Boss summoned must be killed within 1/2 hours and will give a yield of Eg: 1 star give 10k points with a max of 500k/1 million for Heroic bosses. Tune difficulty of Heroic boss which is so difficult only the top 10 guilds can take it out. Top guilds want a challenge.
- Bosses of 6 and 7 stars can only be summoned with alot of gold eg: 1 million gold or 50/100 gems from guild bank. (Increase spending of guild and increase profit for Gree :).

4. Level 4 or 5 buildings
- Higher level buildings, which can be purchased with Gems. Training grounds level 4 = 50 gems, level 5 training ground for 70 gems.

5. Guild castle
- Create a guild castle, where you can purchase either cosmetic upgrades or stats based upgrades.

6. More ways to use Gems
- Speed up friend use per day limit, instead of 10 perday. Gems can be used to remove cooldown. Eg: 20/30 gems to obtain 10 more friends. or maybe 5/10 friends at different gem rates (more money for gree).

DK Melancholic from Death Knights on Android.

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Originally Posted by toogoodformyowngood

I think they are already aware of the problem. I don't see a problem if they get player feedback. Actually most games do this. Even games like WoW, Guild Wars and Diablo obtain alot of feedback from players to improve the game. It doesn't have to come solely from the developers. The only reason its different is because they have a very long beta testing phase, which just does not happen in the mobile industry due to the short life of the products. Some mobile games just last for a few months before being phased out.

And I think when this game was made, they developers never expected it to be so profitable, which leads to the lack of vision. As they never planned for this game to be so huge.

I think constructive and specific ideas on how they could improve the game would be good.

Anyways I think adapting concepts from other mobile games would be good. Like what the others have said.

I agree with what you say tho, we need more end game content. It takes about 1-3 months to reach level 100 and after that it gets abit old. Especially when you get maxed armors. I already have 4 maxed epics and about 6 epics. For players at the max level we always want to continue developing our characters. Higher stats, more bonuses etc. I think there should a focus on developing high level content as most of the largest spenders are all the max levels players.

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Yeah, I'd think they already aware of this.

I think your recommendations are great addition to the game contents btw. Would luv it to see them implemented.

@ toogoodformyowngood & Oyster
+1 for pretty much everything you said. Wish there was someway to officially count my vote for your ideas. Well thought out, relevant and implimentable.

My Thoughts...

First.. I Strongly feel if we're going to spend 20+ gems per Dark Prince Chest (or special chests), anything "craftable" should be removed. at the very least, all the 1 star items. If we're spending that many gems/$ it should be worth the value. Keep the "non-craftable" armors because at the very least, people who get 1 star armors, get a 50EP (match element) armor.

Honestly i used 4 keys, and received 3 1-star craftable, and 1 2-star armor. (thats not including the other 30+ chests ive opened since i started)

second. How about introducing the low (like 1-5% chance) of getting the next chest tier key. 5 gem chest can potentially give the 10 gem key, as the 10 gem key can potentially give dark prince. This way farming/ collecting the silver keys and be "in a way" potentially beneficial.

third, a guildie mentioned this idea... aside of the epic boss.. have a special stage where you can farm a resource (for those done with the storyline) that allows you to buy elements of an armor combine (lets call them coins). per final boss of stage (or if just want it to be single stage fight similar to dark prince) each stage can be each element for those farming supplies, and/or random so there's no "one best armor set". Have all the 3 star or higher pieces be for sale in a "shop" where you can buy for $, Gems, or these special coins. obviously you get more for $ > Gems > Coins. This can allow those dedicated, or unable to get previous + armors, and/or those having rotten luck with chests, and combines, take the time and currency to get their epics and/or Fusion armor boosts. (ex 5 coins per element, 100 elements per fusion boosts = 500 coins = 250 clears (or more if you change the quantity of drops). and have it be 150-300 for epic.

Im just wanting to see the more casual player fight and work hard towards those awesome unobtainable gear. and those who wish to invest the $ can do so as well.

<Edit> and lastly, please give more for the 100+ to do other than grind, farm, grind, farm. it was enjoyable leveling and feeling my character is improving. but getting 1000g each level aside of the gem/key per 10 lvls. it doesnt feel "worth" investing towards exp

I think it would be nice if the implemented a system that allowed players to master levels or armors through crafting. What I mean is that every time you clear a stage you would get some points toward mastering it. You could have 5 or so levels and every level would allow the boss to drop more materials. Or if they wanted to go the armor route you would get exp every time you crafted a specific armor, then when it leveled up it would require slightly less gold and less materials. This way it adds some incentive to the daily grind.

Easy addition EPIC mode for adventuring x5 monster HP x3 rewards per stage

More quests with good key rewards (like the beast keys!)
New stages! Raise the Level cap!

Monthly limited edition quests that are offer various key rewards. Nothing like Beast Keys. Either DPC, Gold, or a generic, "Event Key" that unlocks special epic reward chests. Obviously the difficulty of the quest would determine the reward and quantity. Use these as weekend fillers between wars.

I'm copying part of this from a thread I started before the 'official suggestion' thread was begun.

A little less swiping.

From the "Main Menu" to "Fusion Master" to "Enhance Armor" finally to "Select a Base Armor Set"

I'd really love it if the armors shown would 'stack' instead of making me scroll through a handful of the same thing before moving on to the next armor within whatever element I'm looking at. If I have ten 'Wing Warrior's Armor' all at level one in my inventory I'd like it to say 'Wing Warrior's Armor' x10 as opposed to showing each individually.

The same armor at different levels of enhancement should show up on it's own. But stacking them would be nice to eliminate redundancies. This is essentially done at the armorsmiths. The screen will say, for example, 'Basic Air Armor 358/3' it stacks the 358 basic airs as opposed to making you swipe through them all individually to the see what's next.
Also under the same command, the display of '56/70 Armors Sets' would be very helpful to see at the beginning of all the armors I have in my inventory and not swiping through them all to see it at the end. This would be much like the recent change in showing how many friends you have available to use at the start instead of the finish of ones' friends list.

Finally, under "Guild" and "Members," in addition to all the info that is shown, I'd really like to be able to see guild members' level. If possible, under profile, or perhaps some other feature, it would be a dream to see the "My Knights" screen for that chosen guild member. Also, could there be some kind of indicator on the guild page as to who is online?

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I don't feel any reason to take part in the arena. At all.

The prizes are cute but certainly not good enough to justify spending gems on a double down. Even if you win the arena war you're rewarded with a legendary armor from months ago that that winner probably could have crafted if they chose to do so. I don't really have a fix for this, but I don't feel any reason to take part in the arena.

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Could there be a different use for fusion stones? I don't like fusion as I'm not one much for gambling: I have 103 fusion stones right now. Between the cost of crafting legendaries and chance results fusion is not for me. Maybe they can be used in enhancing. Every 'x' number of stones used in enhancing equals a boost armor fusion thing.

That's all I got for now.

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Could there be a different use for fusion stones? I don't like fusion as I'm not one much for gambling: I have 103 fusion stones right now. Between the cost of crafting legendaries and chance results fusion is not for me. Maybe they can be used in enhancing. Every 'x' number of stones used in enhancing equals a boost armor fusion thing.

That's all I got for now.

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You could fuse basics into 50 EP combinations.

I have several ideas, but i will start only with the first, which seems to me the most critical. Canbe that someone already posted it, anyway, i share my vision.
Guild wars
I strongly dislike the idea that the winner is decided based on money they spend on gems. Cant this be done better so that Gree still gets his profit? yes , it can be done! According to my calculation in a guild war bout 20.000 gems are used, mostly by top 10 guilds. but this number does not really matter.
Simply introduce a war ticket.
Every guild would have to contribute with a fixed amount of gems to participate, which is easy enough to get. like 500, that is like 20 gems pro member. If only 400 guild would participate, you will get your 20.000 gems already. If you give decent rewards, more guilds will join and you get multiple profit. Does it sound much better?
(But calculate the real amount, and make ticket price with your wish, but it should be not more then 1 or 2 eur/usd per guild member)
For that you get in every fight 20 (50, unlimited) attacks per member. A member can be attacked by the same person 3 times, to be fair.
What is the best in this play strategy for us players? the best team will win, not the one who spends most.This should be your goal also, Gree. To keep this game alive..
Of course you can have a free war also where lower lewel guilds can win legendaries, if the free is a key word in this game.
Is this not the war we, players would like more?

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Originally Posted by bloodwolf

I have several ideas, but i will start only with the first, which seems to me the most critical. Canbe that someone already posted it, anyway, i share my vision.
Guild wars
I strongly dislike the idea that the winner is decided based on money they spend on gems. Cant this be done better so that Gree still gets his profit? yes , it can be done! According to my calculation in a guild war bout 20.000 gems are used, mostly by top 10 guilds. but this number does not really matter.
Simply introduce a war ticket.
Every guild would have to contribute with a fixed amount of gems to participate, which is easy enough to get. like 500, that is like 20 gems pro member. If only 400 guild would participate, you will get your 20.000 gems already. If you give decent rewards, more guilds will join and you get multiple profit. Does it sound much better?
(But calculate the real amount, and make ticket price with your wish, but it should be not more then 1 or 2 eur/usd per guild member)
For that you get in every fight 20 (50, unlimited) attacks per member. A member can be attacked by the same person 3 times, to be fair.
What is the best in this play strategy for us players? the best team will win, not the one who spends most.This should be your goal also, Gree. To keep this game alive..
Of course you can have a free war also where lower lewel guilds can win legendaries, if the free is a key word in this game.
Is this not the war we, players would like more?

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So, if I was to buy in with my guild for 500 gems, and had 25 people, 20 gems each. They could potentially get 20/50/unlimited attacks per fight? You realize you DECREASED spending over the course of THEWHOLE war to 20 gems, when people would have spent an additional 40 gems PER FIGHT, if you use your 20 attack per fight model.

I know that many others would spend 20 gems to get in, but man, you just gimped guild wars MUCH more than you think. People who may normally spend 400 gems, just got a war for 20. You realize you would have to find 19 more people to make up for that one. And the people who spend 1000 gems? You need to find 49 more people to replace their spending. Those that spend over that?... you get the idea.

And you turned it from a battle of wallets, to simply who has the most free time during the war. Now the winner is he who has the most free time and $5. Makes perfect sense.

It needs a market to sell armor and fusion stones for money and gold. Make it an event type thing, maybe auction style.

Each epic boss needs it's own soundtrack.

More ways to get epic armors; all armors should be able to get by fusion, perhaps combine materials to get materials for epic armor crafting, or craft with massive amounts of other materials of the associated elements. Perhaps add an impossibly hard level which gives epic materials.

Guilds desperately need a way to share items and currency. If it were to be just one thing, it would be armor.

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So, if I was to buy in with my guild for 500 gems, and had 25 people, 20 gems each. They could potentially get 20/50/unlimited attacks per fight? You realize you DECREASED spending over the course of THEWHOLE war to 20 gems, when people would have spent an additional 40 gems PER FIGHT, if you use your 20 attack per fight model.

I know that many others would spend 20 gems to get in, but man, you just gimped guild wars MUCH more than you think. People who may normally spend 400 gems, just got a war for 20. You realize you would have to find 19 more people to make up for that one. And the people who spend 1000 gems? You need to find 49 more people to replace their spending. Those that spend over that?... you get the idea.

And you turned it from a battle of wallets, to simply who has the most free time during the war. Now the winner is he who has the most free time and $5. Makes perfect sense.

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I'd quit if this requirement were implemented. I'll watch ads and do surveys a little, but will never buy in game currency, that's just stupidity.

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Which reminds me, how cool would it be if you could gift people 1 material a day. Ala treasure divers:
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The new kingdom game has an interesting trading system also

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+1 and then some more.

Thoughts:

1) Allow limited trading of armors to a certain number of accounts.

This is meant to facilitate the introduction of newer players to the game or to encourage alts. Currently, new players have to go through the journey to 100, which is pretty fun. But it would be good if older players could trade certain armors to new players by tying a few friend codes to a special list. Essentially, the older player can craft armors for these "special" friends and, when completed, the armor is sent to that player's inventory.

Make it so that the "special" friend list can only be changed once a month or something so that it's not heavily abused. Also charge a small amount of gems per armor crafted in this fashion. Epics couldn't be transferred in this fashion because they can't be crafted so it's really only limited to EB+ armors and these are at level 1 so the new player still has to level it up themselves.

The idea really is to make it easier for new players to get hooked in the game.

On the same token, for these "special" friends, let the level cap restriction on using higher level friends be removed. Again, this facilitates progression for these newer players.

2) create special 1-off events: instead of just LTQs, how about a race to reach level 100 on a brand new server? Pay a gem entrance fee, then players get to level a brand new character on a new server to see who gets to 100 first. First X gets a reward on their main character on the "real" server, so on and so forth. Let it be an epic reward if need be so that the playing field is relatively level (though players can still spend gems on the "race" server).

1. XP Ticker to next level when clicked on the progress bar in the left corner

2. Prestige System? Once level 100+ no reason to level up anymore and can get boring from my experience

3. Higher building tiers current max is level 3, move up to level 5 for additional Gold+Gems

And lock names :)

Higher stats past lvl 100. Maybe every 5 levels you get a boost? or even 10.

Yaaaay, Elita actually listened to us I love you Elita.

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Yaaaay, Elita actually listened to us I love you Elita.

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Originally Posted by bloodwolf

I have several ideas, but i will start only with the first, which seems to me the most critical. Canbe that someone already posted it, anyway, i share my vision.
Guild wars
I strongly dislike the idea that the winner is decided based on money they spend on gems. Cant this be done better so that Gree still gets his profit? yes , it can be done! According to my calculation in a guild war bout 20.000 gems are used, mostly by top 10 guilds. but this number does not really matter.
Simply introduce a war ticket.
Every guild would have to contribute with a fixed amount of gems to participate, which is easy enough to get. like 500, that is like 20 gems pro member. If only 400 guild would participate, you will get your 20.000 gems already. If you give decent rewards, more guilds will join and you get multiple profit. Does it sound much better?
(But calculate the real amount, and make ticket price with your wish, but it should be not more then 1 or 2 eur/usd per guild member)
For that you get in every fight 20 (50, unlimited) attacks per member. A member can be attacked by the same person 3 times, to be fair.
What is the best in this play strategy for us players? the best team will win, not the one who spends most.This should be your goal also, Gree. To keep this game alive..
Of course you can have a free war also where lower lewel guilds can win legendaries, if the free is a key word in this game.
Is this not the war we, players would like more?

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Good Idea...a number feel like u. Don't worry too much about all the negative press u will get. It is the same couple of guys over and over and over...read pages 15 - 17.

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How many guilds would this really matter to? Of all the improvements to make I don't think this would be high on most player lists...

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How many guilds would this really matter to? Of all the improvements to make I don't think this would be high on most player lists...

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Well said.

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Fire Fusion boost war

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Fire Fusion boost war

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Just noticed that! It's awesome!

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Dear Gree,

Please give me a blazeborn first otherwise the fire fusions are useless to me. My horseman+ is already maxed so I have no use for fusions and will not buy any gems this war!

I think yhat guild should be able to charge dues, due every month of whatever amount the master sets, which goes towards the guild bank. This would further group like-minded members.

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I think yhat guild should be able to charge dues, due every month of whatever amount the master sets, which goes towards the guild bank. This would further group like-minded members.

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They have this, they call them donations though.

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Good Idea...a number feel like u. Don't worry too much about all the negative press u will get. It is the same couple of guys over and over and over...read pages 15 - 17.

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A number feel like you. A number also think this is a stupid idea. People continue to want access to the best stuff, but don't want to actually spend the money that others are willing to to get it.

Trust me, its not about the spending less for the war part. I don't think you'll argue with ANYONE saying they WANT to spend MORE.

But to totally give away guild wars to anyone... because at such a low price, you're giving it away for free. Everyone could easily do enough free offers in the few weeks between wars and bam, never have to spend a dime, ever. That goes for EVERYONE IN THE GAME. I know to some, that is the best idea ever, but from a business standpoint, YOU JUST GAVE AWAY THEIR BIGGEST MONEY MAKER FOR FREE. Re-read that last sentence. I even made it bold for you. Does that make sense to you from a business standpoint? That is great for the general public yes. I don't dispute that. But wait until you get into war. Low level guilds will stilll be squashed by guilds that you'll never be able to compete against, low level guilds with high level players. So, what are you going to gain points? Constantly attack the wall for 50 points each time? That seems like fun, and a huge "strategy" boost from where we are now.

Also, if I see guilds winning because they attacked a wall and couldn't beat another player on the opposing team, I pity you, and hope you feel like less of a guild. You don't deserve a win if that is how you have to win. Am I the only one who feels this way?

Also, 20k gems spent for wars? That is an extremely low calculation. I think you could double or triple it, and still only be covering one or two of the top guilds. Just fyi.

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A number feel like you. A number also think this is a stupid idea. People continue to want access to the best stuff, but don't want to actually spend the money that others are willing to to get it.

Trust me, its not about the spending less for the war part. I don't think you'll argue with ANYONE saying they WANT to spend MORE.

But to totally give away guild wars to anyone... because at such a low price, you're giving it away for free. Everyone could easily do enough free offers in the few weeks between wars and bam, never have to spend a dime, ever. That goes for EVERYONE IN THE GAME. I know to some, that is the best idea ever, but from a business standpoint, YOU JUST GAVE AWAY THEIR BIGGEST MONEY MAKER FOR FREE. Re-read that last sentence. I even made it bold for you. Does that make sense to you from a business standpoint? That is great for the general public yes. I don't dispute that. But wait until you get into war. Low level guilds will stilll be squashed by guilds that you'll never be able to compete against, low level guilds with high level players. So, what are you going to gain points? Constantly attack the wall for 50 points each time? That seems like fun, and a huge "strategy" boost from where we are now.

Also, if I see guilds winning because they attacked a wall and couldn't beat another player on the opposing team, I pity you, and hope you feel like less of a guild. You don't deserve a win if that is how you have to win. Am I the only one who feels this way?

Also, 20k gems spent for wars? That is an extremely low calculation. I think you could double or triple it, and still only be covering one or two of the top guilds. Just fyi.

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On 1 platform :-D

Not reading all this to see if it was mentioned, but maybe a trade system? Now an all out 'trade whatever' system would be bad, but maybe you can only trade armors 3 star (fusions included) and down. Maybe make trading only possible withen a guild. I think this would be sweet, it would also allow GM's to offer incentive for doing well in wars. Ex: i will give the commander MVP 3 fusions and 2 50 ep armors at wars end. This would also allow stronger members to help out the weaker ones, but not so much as to just give them powerful armors (which would make the game lame). I dunno, just a thought