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Originally Posted by Necromancers

Combustion Armor was added on the 4th of July. No idea about the others though.
I'm just curious, why is this interesting you?

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Thank you.

I am trying to find trends in the stats of armors that were released in chests after aegis of the dragon.

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Originally Posted by Unresolved

The reason I progressed through this game faster than other non-spenders was because I didn't waste time fusing anything. Week one was getting TFs everywhere. Week 2 was maxing the Big 4. Week 3 was buying the last 2 castle expansions. No time to waste gold/smiths fusing for random things. After that, I joined a good guild and got Eurus+ in my 3rd full week. Never looked back since. Can't say I ever enhanced a Bigger 4, because I didn't. But now that good guilds have been locked up, players can't jump from the Big 4 to Epic Boss+, so they need an intermediate. Since combustion/GB/Clay/Tempered are worse than the current Epic Boss+, I just don't see a reason to expend the extra effort into a luck-based system when you could achieve the same results by going the tried-and-true method. If there's anything I learned from this game, it's that luck screws you over.

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Hold on, you don't see the point in leveling combustion because the current epic boss + is better, but you want people to level Roc+, when Combustion is more than 500 points better than it? Really?

The only reason to level the Bigger4+ was that you couldn't beat the EB43, and they were the best armors available until you could. Thats no longer the case.


Also, there's just as much luck in farming for materials as there is in fusing.

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Originally Posted by Synovia

Hold on, you don't see the point in leveling combustion because the current epic boss + is better, but you want people to level Roc+, when Combustion is more than 500 points better than it? Really?

The only reason to level the Bigger4+ was that you couldn't beat the EB43, and they were the best armors available until you could. Thats no longer the case.


Also, there's just as much luck in farming for materials as there is in fusing.

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I personally would still recommend leveling the bigger4. They're easier to level in total EP (iirc), and Epic Bosses have gotten harder over time, while Big4 hasn't. Maybe a solid friend set will compensate for that and get someone to 43 faster, but honestly I think that bigger4 is more tried and true than risking an EB+ every week with only Big4 and friends.

That being said, having levelled roc+ personally, I would not recommend it. It's elemental combination and stats never felt worth it. I would restrict Bigger4 to Huge2 personally. Swamp shaman and Infernal Lord. I never finished DP+, because I was getting EB43 before I even had a second set of 22 gems.

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Originally Posted by EljayK

I personally would still recommend leveling the bigger4. They're easier to level in total EP (iirc), and Epic Bosses have gotten harder over time, while Big4 hasn't. Maybe a solid friend set will compensate for that and get someone to 43 faster, but honestly I think that bigger4 is more tried and true than risking an EB+ every week with only Big4 and friends.

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Each of the bigger4+ cost more EP to level than Combustion, Clayplate, and Guardian, and are significantly inferior. Thats the point here.

They also cost more EP to level than the Boss (non-plus), where you only need to get to level 15, and aren't significantly better.

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That being said, having levelled roc+ personally, I would not recommend it. It's elemental combination and stats never felt worth it. I would restrict Bigger4 to Huge2 personally. Swamp shaman and Infernal Lord. I never finished DP+, because I was getting EB43 before I even had a second set of 22 gems.

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Agree on Roc+, and DP, but don't agree on Swamp Shaman+. Its significantly more expensive to level than the current bosses non-plus armor, and is only marginally better. I think any newbie would be much better served leveling a 1850 point stacked element non-boss armor than leveling the 1900 point swamp shaman with its crappy elements.

I know Bear is passed, so a newbie today doesn't necessarily have the choice, but I really think the 1850 points of Earth/Spirit is a more useful armor than 1936 points of Earth/water. The Bigger4+ made a lot of sense when boss non-plus armors were 14-1600 points. Thats not true anymore though.

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Originally Posted by Synovia

Each of the bigger4+ cost more EP to level than Combustion, Clayplate, and Guardian, and are significantly inferior. Thats the point here.

They also cost more EP to level than the Boss (non-plus), where you only need to get to level 15, and aren't significantly better.




Agree on Roc+, and DP, but don't agree on Swamp Shaman+. Its significantly more expensive to level than the current bosses non-plus armor, and is only marginally better. I think any newbie would be much better served leveling a 1850 point stacked element non-boss armor than leveling the 1900 point swamp shaman with its crappy elements.

I know Bear is passed, so a newbie today doesn't necessarily have the choice, but I really think the 1850 points of Earth/Spirit is a more useful armor than 1936 points of Earth/water. The Bigger4+ made a lot of sense when boss non-plus armors were 14-1600 points. Thats not true anymore though.

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Well I just use the armors in my signature for now and I'm fine with them. Working on materials for DP+ (crafting the regular atm) but probably won't level it anytime soon, as I'm busy with my current ones. There can be all kinds of arguing why this and that is all worth it but it in the end it's just what you can use and what you're willing to use.

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Originally Posted by EljayK

The only time it's economically feasible is when you have reached around level 75 in an epic. (by my very quick diner napkin math; which is poor). There is a strategy some people use that gets an uncommon up to level 11 so it's worth 20 points in on-element fusions, but it takes 1 uncommon, 8 basics, and two 4-set enhances. (500+2400+600+1200=4700). It is used because it takes half the time of snakeskins and gives the same if the element doesn't match snakeskins.

Best idea is Gabzor's. The standard leveling progression of an epic boss armor, for example, is basics to 12 or 20 depending on time and preference, snakeskins to 45/50 depending on same, fusion armors to 70. Feel free to substitute fusion boost armors for fusion armors if you have them.

For the idea of completeness the fusion armors are fire/air, fire/earth, spirit/wind, spirit/water. Fusing those basic armors together has a 100% chance at an armor that gives 41 base EP and 50 EP when elements match.

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So now that my Storm sorc + is at 51, I should be using what to boost? Don't quite understand the "fusion armors", as compared to fusion boost armors. Unless you mean like fusing air and water silver star armors together, then fusing those into the storm sorc. (Forgive my noobness, please).

:mad::mad::mad:

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Originally Posted by wbbpcvpvr

:mad::mad::mad:

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Chances to get back 10% unless the person who took your phone Sell Away and Factory reset your phone
Send Gree a ticket tell them what happen, i hope u remember all your account information.
Example your own Friend codes your level your castle expansion how much gems you left your guild name

If he is still holding on to your phone i don't think u can get its back :'(

So now that I am lvl 140....what was/is then point of continuing? No bonus for leveling (haven't had a bonus in a few levels), its now just grind grind grind for snakeskins, log in every so often to kill the epic boss and win some tournament battles.....sounds like a very poor end game play.

Forgot: also wait for the well developed guild wars that occur once in a while.

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Originally Posted by Synovia

Hold on, you don't see the point in leveling combustion because the current epic boss + is better, but you want people to level Roc+, when Combustion is more than 500 points better than it? Really?

Also, there's just as much luck in farming for materials as there is in fusing.

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I did specifically say several posts ago I would not level Roc+ because it sucks. And there is not nearly as much luck in farming as fusion. You have a much larger sample to smooth out the data and HP is a replenishable resource while armors for fusion aren't. Not to mention, you need to craft those 3* anyways to fuse...So not sure where you're going with that.

And you can get Infernal+ done faster than you can fuse and max Combustion unless you luck out and get it first try. Combustion will become obsolete anyways once you can start killing Epic Boss 43 anyways. 150 more stats IS a fairly large amount.

Hey guys, I need to ask this now as I don't have much time to go and research it and reaaaally wanna know.

Are there actual offers that aren't videos (surveys and others) that actually gives gems? I've tried two surveys but they just led me to more surveys. Now I wasn't sure if I should've kept going but I got discouraged because the questions became all too redundant. Care to help me with which ones are legit and which ones aren't? Also if you can lead me to cheap offers that reward large amount of gems?

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Originally Posted by Unresolved

And you can get Infernal+ done faster than you can fuse and max Combustion unless you luck out and get it first try. .

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No, you really can't.

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And you can get Infernal+ done faster than you can fuse and max Combustion unless you luck out and get it first try. .

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Yes, you can.

You either need to luck out and get combustion through fusing fusion boosts or crafting 3 stars and fusing 2 together to try and get combustion. Chances of getting combustion is low because of the influx of new possibilities and 4 elements from 3 stars.

I do not know how you can say there is as much luck in farming mats as there is in fusion. That makes no sense. For new players, the safest route to take is to craft bigger 4+ and once you have those, you can farm materials and craft 3 stars to use for fusion. Crafting 3 stars for fusion before you have bigger 4+ just puts you behind when you don't have a good foundation of bigger 4+, and excess gold/fusion stars to fall back on.

Looked a little bit and didn't see any relevant answers, although I sort of remember reading a post awhile back about this type of thing...

Our Guild Master has been missing in action for about two or three weeks now, and the last we heard from him was when he was talking about giving up the leadership role due to not having the time to spend on the game.

I sent a support ticket to GREE, but can anyone offer any insight in to how this problem might be resolved?

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Originally Posted by -Solo-

Yes, you can.

You either need to luck out and get combustion through fusing fusion boosts or crafting 3 stars and fusing 2 together to try and get combustion. Chances of getting combustion is low because of the influx of new possibilities and 4 elements from 3 stars.

I do not know how you can say there is as much luck in farming mats as there is in fusion. That makes no sense. For new players, the safest route to take is to craft bigger 4+ and once you have those, you can farm materials and craft 3 stars to use for fusion. Crafting 3 stars for fusion before you have bigger 4+ just puts you behind when you don't have a good foundation of bigger 4+, and excess gold/fusion stars to fall back on.

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Just fused combustion!!!!

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Originally Posted by Sol Invictus

Looked a little bit and didn't see any relevant answers, although I sort of remember reading a post awhile back about this type of thing...

Our Guild Master has been missing in action for about two or three weeks now, and the last we heard from him was when he was talking about giving up the leadership role due to not having the time to spend on the game.

I sent a support ticket to GREE, but can anyone offer any insight in to how this problem might be resolved?

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Unfortunately the only person who can change the Guildmaster spot over to another person is the Guildmaster. There is no lack of activity clause, that I'm aware of. Honestly, unless you're particularly fond of where you are, I would find a more active guild that communicates on Line daily so that you always know what's going on. Those types of guilds have leaders that would either A.) never leave, or B.) hand off leadership before they do.

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Originally Posted by Sol Invictus

Looked a little bit and didn't see any relevant answers, although I sort of remember reading a post awhile back about this type of thing...

Our Guild Master has been missing in action for about two or three weeks now, and the last we heard from him was when he was talking about giving up the leadership role due to not having the time to spend on the game.

I sent a support ticket to GREE, but can anyone offer any insight in to how this problem might be resolved?

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Only gree. Same thing happened to my old guild, except he broke his phone. Gree said it wwas possible for them to remove him and give leadership to the next in line. But ssaid they would have to check for inactivity on the account first.

Intredasting.

Both the Master and the Sentinel in my guild have been MIA for more than a week.

It's too bad too, because I left one guild already to join this one and essentially took the helm, got rid of some lousy players and added some great ones and built it up to where it is now. If all my effort was wasted because Gree won't help me out then I'm gonna be displeased.

Has anyone worked out the optimal snakeskin farming? A normal run takes 30s,but seems to have a lower drop rate; an epic run takes 50s but seems to have a higher drop rate. HP is a non issue.

So if the drop rate is 30/50 or 60% in normal compared to epic it's a wash, but if it's lower then Epic is better, or if it's higher then Normal is better. Or maybe one of the middle ranks... Anyone done the stats?

I use 1120 of the damn things for every suit of armor I level...

I would like to know how Gree can seize my account and use it to keep an eye on other guilds?
They took my account I've been playing daily for the last 7 months and announced via chat that I was a hacker and they are going to use my account to monitor other players.
All without proof or consultation.
I have receipts for all of my purchases, have tried in vain to contact Gree for an explanation all for nothing.

Be warned this account is now a member of 3 stars & a sun, going by the name 'owned by gree'

And you believe that? I highly doubt that it's actually gree.

any idea how i can get multi referral for *ahem* myself ?
any emus for me to do ?
some stuff are not able to be written here.

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Originally Posted by -Solo-

Yes, you can.

You either need to luck out and get combustion through fusing fusion boosts or crafting 3 stars and fusing 2 together to try and get combustion. Chances of getting combustion is low because of the influx of new possibilities and 4 elements from 3 stars.

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Like I showed earlier, it takes roughly 4 fusions to end up with one of the three really nice fusable armors. Thats not "lucking out".

Stop with the disingenuous misinformation.

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. For new players, the safest route to take is to craft bigger 4+ and once you have those, you can farm materials and craft 3 stars to use for fusion. Crafting 3 stars for fusion before you have bigger 4+ just puts you behind when you don't have a good foundation of bigger 4+, and excess gold/fusion stars to fall back on.

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no, its not, because the bigger 4 are all a gigantic waste of time. They're all, excepting Infernal, inferior to the current boss non-plus armors. They're all inferior to easily fusable armors.

There is literally no reason that any person should be leveling Rocfeather, or Dark prince, and very few reasons anyone should level Swamp or Infernal.

Its not a safe route, its not a wise route, its a gigantic waste of time.

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Originally Posted by Synovia

Like I showed earlier, it takes roughly 4 fusions to end up with one of the three really nice fusable armors. Thats not "lucking out".

Stop with the disingenuous misinformation.

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Well, on the other hand your sample size of 1 person isn't exactly reliable either...

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no, its not, because the bigger 4 are all a gigantic waste of time. They're all, excepting Infernal, inferior to the current boss non-plus armors. They're all inferior to easily fusable armors.

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According to the wiki: Bear non-plus = 1829 combined
DP+ = 2019, Swamp+ = 1936, Infernal+ = 2075 and Roc has for ages been "not really worth it unless you don't have anything better for those elements".
Please come back in 1 or 2 months and copy paste your rant and then it will actually be true.

My account's details are in my signature.
Should I bother getting Dark Prince Royal Armor +? If not, is using a big portion of my daily friend hiring worth it for levelling, or should I train somewhere else and focus the usage of my friends on getting as far as I can at the Epic Boss each week?

I know I'm by far not strong enough to get to level 43 but the rewards might still be worth it.

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Originally Posted by Necromancers

My account's details are in my signature.
Should I bother getting Dark Prince Royal Armor +? If not, is using a big portion of my daily friend hiring worth it for levelling, or should I train somewhere else and focus the usage of my friends on getting as far as I can at the Epic Boss each week?

I know I'm by far not strong enough to get to level 43 but the rewards might still be worth it.

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Yes to dark prince+ in arena because now their are too much Earth/Spirit elements in arena you deal 100% damage to them but u take in only.normal damage

Agree with LotI. Get it. I never did, but I was working on it when something better came along. The worst that can happen is you end up with 2 fire/spirits. Get your other armors to 70 though. A level 70 is more important than another level 50 of different elements.

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Originally Posted by Necromancers

My account's details are in my signature.
Should I bother getting Dark Prince Royal Armor +? If not, is using a big portion of my daily friend hiring worth it for levelling, or should I train somewhere else and focus the usage of my friends on getting as far as I can at the Epic Boss each week?

I know I'm by far not strong enough to get to level 43 but the rewards might still be worth it.

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First 1-2 days of a new boss you should need few friends for the boss, so at that time you can use them to do KoD or Haunted Citadel runs to level up.

Good goal for epic boss is probably to advance 1 reward level per week.

Our guild has had a problem with new members joining with the express intent to sabotage us during a guild war. The ability to boot a rogue member durng a war would be great ! (You could still leave the inability to join a guild).
Eagle

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Originally Posted by Arcovio

Our guild has had a problem with new members joining with the express intent to sabotage us during a guild war. The ability to boot a rogue member durng a war would be great ! (You could still leave the inability to join a guild).
Eagle

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That also leaves the possibility that someone will boot members before the war ends so they wont receive prizes.

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Like I showed earlier, it takes roughly 4 fusions to end up with one of the three really nice fusable armors. Thats not "lucking out".

Stop with the disingenuous misinformation.

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It's luck. I don't think you know what the word luck or probability means. You're telling me to stop giving out disingenuous information when you're telling low leveled players to skip the bigger 4+ (which have higher stats than epic boss non+ armors) to try and craft multiple bigger 4s sets and fuse them away to hope to get, in your words, "one of the three nice fusable armors" after they just included a bunch of old armors into the fusion table.

Stop spouting things you have little knowledge of. You're of little help to new and upcoming players.

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Originally Posted by -Solo-

It's luck. I don't think you know what the word luck or probability means. You're telling me to stop giving out disingenuous information when you're telling low leveled players to skip the bigger 4+ (which have higher stats than epic boss non+ armors) to try and craft multiple bigger 4s sets and fuse them away to hope to get, in your words, "one of the three nice fusable armors" after they just included a bunch of old armors into the fusion table.

Stop spouting things you have little knowledge of. You're of little help to new and upcoming players.

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Remember though, all the old data we had before, and any info we had is invalid now since they reworked the fusion tables...

/sigh...

How are guild war matchups determined? Is it by guild level or by rank?

Rocfeather Robes + Wanderer's Shroud can't give a Rare armor like Living Flame or Flamestorm Finery, right?
Because there are no 3-star armors of mono Fire, Fire/Spirit or Fire/Air which are fusable, I'm thinking of fusing those in the hopes of getting Combustion.

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Originally Posted by Necromancers

Rocfeather Robes + Wanderer's Shroud can't give a Rare armor like Living Flame or Flamestorm Finery, right?
Because there are no 2-star or 3-star armors of mono Fire, Fire/Spirit or Fire/Air which are fusable, I'm thinking of fusing those in the hopes of getting Combustion.

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You could get Admiral's regalia, pyromancer, royal flame, torch flame, ruby platemail, cloudking finery, Bone harvester, ethereal garments, Embersteel, flame summoner, Combustion, eldritch keeper and barbarian raiding gear.

Not particularly good chances, and I may have missed out a few possibilities.

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Originally Posted by deathexe

You could get Admiral's regalia, pyromancer, royal flame, torch flame, ruby platemail, cloudking finery, Bone harvester, ethereal garments, Embersteel, flame summoner, Combustion, eldritch keeper and barbarian raiding gear.

Not particularly good chances, and I may have missed out a few possibilities.

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Okay screw that I missed a few junk 2-stars you get 99% of the time in Beast Chest... Well might indeed not be the best chances, but don't need my Wanderer's Shroud and I fused away my other EB armors. Meh I'll guess I wait a bit.

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Originally Posted by busteroaf

Remember though, all the old data we had before, and any info we had is invalid now since they reworked the fusion tables...
/sigh...

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We didn't know the odds of each armor before and we don't know now. Not much of a change.
For all we know, they could have only changed some "fusable: no" flags to "fusable: yes".
Gree being Gree, the odds of them suddenly making the good armor(s) more likely when adding a bunch of extra crappy options I'd guess is near zero...

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Originally Posted by Necromancers

Rocfeather Robes + Wanderer's Shroud can't give a Rare armor like Living Flame or Flamestorm Finery, right?
Because there are no 3-star armors of mono Fire, Fire/Spirit or Fire/Air which are fusable, I'm thinking of fusing those in the hopes of getting Combustion.

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In the fusion results topic, fusing a 3-star with a 4-star armor has generally given worse outcomes than 2x 3-star or 2x 4-star.

Let's compare corvus and beringar armor... both lvl 70, both NON+


Corvus
ATK 869
DEF 992
869 + 992 = 1861

Beringar
ATK 1049
DEF 780
1049 + 780 = 1829


So Corvus has better stats than beringar.
I put corvus on my air knight, and beringar on my earth knight


Air knight
ATK 1148
DEF 1279
1148 + 1279 = 2427

Earth knight
ATK 1415
DEF 1114
1415 + 1114 = 2529


So now the earth knight is stronger!


WTF?? How is it possible?

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Originally Posted by erfel op

let's compare corvus and beringar armor... Both lvl 70, both non+


corvus
atk 869
def 992
869 + 992 = 1861

beringar
atk 1049
def 780
1049 + 780 = 1829


so corvus has better stats than beringar.
i put corvus on my air knight, and beringar on my earth knight


air knight
atk 1148
def 1279
1148 + 1279 = 2427

earth knight
atk 1415
def 1114
1415 + 1114 = 2529


so now the earth knight is stronger!


wtf?? How is it possible?

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guild elements my dear friend