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    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancers View Post
    Combustion Armor was added on the 4th of July. No idea about the others though.
    I'm just curious, why is this interesting you?
    Thank you.

    I am trying to find trends in the stats of armors that were released in chests after aegis of the dragon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unresolved View Post
    The reason I progressed through this game faster than other non-spenders was because I didn't waste time fusing anything. Week one was getting TFs everywhere. Week 2 was maxing the Big 4. Week 3 was buying the last 2 castle expansions. No time to waste gold/smiths fusing for random things. After that, I joined a good guild and got Eurus+ in my 3rd full week. Never looked back since. Can't say I ever enhanced a Bigger 4, because I didn't. But now that good guilds have been locked up, players can't jump from the Big 4 to Epic Boss+, so they need an intermediate. Since combustion/GB/Clay/Tempered are worse than the current Epic Boss+, I just don't see a reason to expend the extra effort into a luck-based system when you could achieve the same results by going the tried-and-true method. If there's anything I learned from this game, it's that luck screws you over.
    Hold on, you don't see the point in leveling combustion because the current epic boss + is better, but you want people to level Roc+, when Combustion is more than 500 points better than it? Really?

    The only reason to level the Bigger4+ was that you couldn't beat the EB43, and they were the best armors available until you could. Thats no longer the case.


    Also, there's just as much luck in farming for materials as there is in fusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synovia View Post
    Hold on, you don't see the point in leveling combustion because the current epic boss + is better, but you want people to level Roc+, when Combustion is more than 500 points better than it? Really?

    The only reason to level the Bigger4+ was that you couldn't beat the EB43, and they were the best armors available until you could. Thats no longer the case.


    Also, there's just as much luck in farming for materials as there is in fusing.
    I personally would still recommend leveling the bigger4. They're easier to level in total EP (iirc), and Epic Bosses have gotten harder over time, while Big4 hasn't. Maybe a solid friend set will compensate for that and get someone to 43 faster, but honestly I think that bigger4 is more tried and true than risking an EB+ every week with only Big4 and friends.

    That being said, having levelled roc+ personally, I would not recommend it. It's elemental combination and stats never felt worth it. I would restrict Bigger4 to Huge2 personally. Swamp shaman and Infernal Lord. I never finished DP+, because I was getting EB43 before I even had a second set of 22 gems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EljayK View Post
    I personally would still recommend leveling the bigger4. They're easier to level in total EP (iirc), and Epic Bosses have gotten harder over time, while Big4 hasn't. Maybe a solid friend set will compensate for that and get someone to 43 faster, but honestly I think that bigger4 is more tried and true than risking an EB+ every week with only Big4 and friends.
    Each of the bigger4+ cost more EP to level than Combustion, Clayplate, and Guardian, and are significantly inferior. Thats the point here.

    They also cost more EP to level than the Boss (non-plus), where you only need to get to level 15, and aren't significantly better.


    That being said, having levelled roc+ personally, I would not recommend it. It's elemental combination and stats never felt worth it. I would restrict Bigger4 to Huge2 personally. Swamp shaman and Infernal Lord. I never finished DP+, because I was getting EB43 before I even had a second set of 22 gems.
    Agree on Roc+, and DP, but don't agree on Swamp Shaman+. Its significantly more expensive to level than the current bosses non-plus armor, and is only marginally better. I think any newbie would be much better served leveling a 1850 point stacked element non-boss armor than leveling the 1900 point swamp shaman with its crappy elements.

    I know Bear is passed, so a newbie today doesn't necessarily have the choice, but I really think the 1850 points of Earth/Spirit is a more useful armor than 1936 points of Earth/water. The Bigger4+ made a lot of sense when boss non-plus armors were 14-1600 points. Thats not true anymore though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synovia View Post
    Each of the bigger4+ cost more EP to level than Combustion, Clayplate, and Guardian, and are significantly inferior. Thats the point here.

    They also cost more EP to level than the Boss (non-plus), where you only need to get to level 15, and aren't significantly better.




    Agree on Roc+, and DP, but don't agree on Swamp Shaman+. Its significantly more expensive to level than the current bosses non-plus armor, and is only marginally better. I think any newbie would be much better served leveling a 1850 point stacked element non-boss armor than leveling the 1900 point swamp shaman with its crappy elements.

    I know Bear is passed, so a newbie today doesn't necessarily have the choice, but I really think the 1850 points of Earth/Spirit is a more useful armor than 1936 points of Earth/water. The Bigger4+ made a lot of sense when boss non-plus armors were 14-1600 points. Thats not true anymore though.
    Well I just use the armors in my signature for now and I'm fine with them. Working on materials for DP+ (crafting the regular atm) but probably won't level it anytime soon, as I'm busy with my current ones. There can be all kinds of arguing why this and that is all worth it but it in the end it's just what you can use and what you're willing to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EljayK View Post
    The only time it's economically feasible is when you have reached around level 75 in an epic. (by my very quick diner napkin math; which is poor). There is a strategy some people use that gets an uncommon up to level 11 so it's worth 20 points in on-element fusions, but it takes 1 uncommon, 8 basics, and two 4-set enhances. (500+2400+600+1200=4700). It is used because it takes half the time of snakeskins and gives the same if the element doesn't match snakeskins.

    Best idea is Gabzor's. The standard leveling progression of an epic boss armor, for example, is basics to 12 or 20 depending on time and preference, snakeskins to 45/50 depending on same, fusion armors to 70. Feel free to substitute fusion boost armors for fusion armors if you have them.

    For the idea of completeness the fusion armors are fire/air, fire/earth, spirit/wind, spirit/water. Fusing those basic armors together has a 100% chance at an armor that gives 41 base EP and 50 EP when elements match.
    So now that my Storm sorc + is at 51, I should be using what to boost? Don't quite understand the "fusion armors", as compared to fusion boost armors. Unless you mean like fusing air and water silver star armors together, then fusing those into the storm sorc. (Forgive my noobness, please).

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbbpcvpvr View Post
    Chances to get back 10% unless the person who took your phone Sell Away and Factory reset your phone
    Send Gree a ticket tell them what happen, i hope u remember all your account information.
    Example your own Friend codes your level your castle expansion how much gems you left your guild name

    If he is still holding on to your phone i don't think u can get its back :'(

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    So now that I am lvl 140....what was/is then point of continuing? No bonus for leveling (haven't had a bonus in a few levels), its now just grind grind grind for snakeskins, log in every so often to kill the epic boss and win some tournament battles.....sounds like a very poor end game play.

    Forgot: also wait for the well developed guild wars that occur once in a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synovia View Post
    Hold on, you don't see the point in leveling combustion because the current epic boss + is better, but you want people to level Roc+, when Combustion is more than 500 points better than it? Really?

    Also, there's just as much luck in farming for materials as there is in fusing.
    I did specifically say several posts ago I would not level Roc+ because it sucks. And there is not nearly as much luck in farming as fusion. You have a much larger sample to smooth out the data and HP is a replenishable resource while armors for fusion aren't. Not to mention, you need to craft those 3* anyways to fuse...So not sure where you're going with that.

    And you can get Infernal+ done faster than you can fuse and max Combustion unless you luck out and get it first try. Combustion will become obsolete anyways once you can start killing Epic Boss 43 anyways. 150 more stats IS a fairly large amount.

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    Hey guys, I need to ask this now as I don't have much time to go and research it and reaaaally wanna know.

    Are there actual offers that aren't videos (surveys and others) that actually gives gems? I've tried two surveys but they just led me to more surveys. Now I wasn't sure if I should've kept going but I got discouraged because the questions became all too redundant. Care to help me with which ones are legit and which ones aren't? Also if you can lead me to cheap offers that reward large amount of gems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unresolved View Post
    And you can get Infernal+ done faster than you can fuse and max Combustion unless you luck out and get it first try. .
    No, you really can't.

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    And you can get Infernal+ done faster than you can fuse and max Combustion unless you luck out and get it first try. .
    Yes, you can.

    You either need to luck out and get combustion through fusing fusion boosts or crafting 3 stars and fusing 2 together to try and get combustion. Chances of getting combustion is low because of the influx of new possibilities and 4 elements from 3 stars.

    I do not know how you can say there is as much luck in farming mats as there is in fusion. That makes no sense. For new players, the safest route to take is to craft bigger 4+ and once you have those, you can farm materials and craft 3 stars to use for fusion. Crafting 3 stars for fusion before you have bigger 4+ just puts you behind when you don't have a good foundation of bigger 4+, and excess gold/fusion stars to fall back on.
    Last edited by -Solo-; 10-03-2013 at 03:33 PM.
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    Looked a little bit and didn't see any relevant answers, although I sort of remember reading a post awhile back about this type of thing...

    Our Guild Master has been missing in action for about two or three weeks now, and the last we heard from him was when he was talking about giving up the leadership role due to not having the time to spend on the game.

    I sent a support ticket to GREE, but can anyone offer any insight in to how this problem might be resolved?


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    Quote Originally Posted by -Solo- View Post
    Yes, you can.

    You either need to luck out and get combustion through fusing fusion boosts or crafting 3 stars and fusing 2 together to try and get combustion. Chances of getting combustion is low because of the influx of new possibilities and 4 elements from 3 stars.

    I do not know how you can say there is as much luck in farming mats as there is in fusion. That makes no sense. For new players, the safest route to take is to craft bigger 4+ and once you have those, you can farm materials and craft 3 stars to use for fusion. Crafting 3 stars for fusion before you have bigger 4+ just puts you behind when you don't have a good foundation of bigger 4+, and excess gold/fusion stars to fall back on.
    Just fused combustion!!!!

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