Fuzing Armors Results Thread

[ActivatingAccountIsAJOKE]

Combined Phyrus and Notus for Combustion Armor!

[Biskmatar]

Kind of curious but what kind of results would I expect if i fuse Aegis of the fallen with an Air Armor boost?
I know it's kind of a throwaway, but what level of armor do you think would be expected?

I'm trying to get a Combustion, I only have Phyrus and no Notus sadly.

[Thatzme]

Kind of curious but what kind of results would I expect if i fuse Aegis of the fallen with an Air Armor boost?
I know it's kind of a throwaway, but what level of armor do you think would be expected?

I'm trying to get a Combustion, I only have Phyrus and no Notus sadly.

It's always not a good idea to fuse a legendary with a lower grade armor. U'll get plenty of heartaches

[Biskmatar]

Hmm alright, thanks for the save! Furthermore, mono legendaries are preferable yea? Like a mono fire and mono air to get combustion or would a Fire/Anything + Air/Anything (both legendaries) have the same possible yield?

[anuarreyes]

Quick question does the lvl of the armor you use influence in any kind the fusions? Like bigger lvls better chance to get something nice?

[Marco_]

AFAIK level of the resulting armor is average of the levels of the source armors and that's the only effect levels have.

@Biskmatar: mono gives the fusion fewer options to pick from.
The system seems to work like this:
A/B + C/D -> most likely A/C , A/D , B/C or B/D or small chance of A, B, C or D
A/B + C -> most likely A/C or B/C or small chance of A, B or C
A + C -> most likely A/C or small chance of A or C

[NoGrip61]

Slimebane + Aegis of the Fallen = Flamehunters Garb (normal)

Bittersweet since I have a level 43 Jian (normal) and am debating what to do now lol.

[~Nate~]

Slimebane + Aegis of the Fallen = Flamehunters Garb (normal)

Bittersweet since I have a level 43 Jian (normal) and am debating what to do now lol.

I was gonna try that combination :P

[XBDMRRFPN]

Quick question does the lvl of the armor you use influence in any kind the fusions? Like bigger lvls better chance to get something nice?
no one knows for sure but yeah I think so!

[SoloStar]

Quick question does the lvl of the armor you use influence in any kind the fusions? Like bigger lvls better chance to get something nice?

No, it does not affect your chances of getting a better armor. It only affects the level of the resulting armor.

[taylor1993]

Guys lets try and fuse for cloud range.

[Barbanium]

Wanderer Regular + Eurus Regular = Ruby

Ruby + Starsong (Plus Version) = Blazeborn

[Lord Of The Infernal]

Slimebane + Aegis of the Fallen = Flamehunters Garb (normal)

Bittersweet since I have a level 43 Jian (normal) and am debating what to do now lol.

I will stick with jian armor reason! Cool Cool Cool and jian only lose a FEW states points compare to flamehunters

[Lord Of The Infernal]

Wanderer Regular + Eurus Regular = Ruby

Ruby + Starsong (Plus Version) = Blazeborn

Wah! Congratulations!

[Jman]

just got a second blazeborn (wanderer+SG). I'll probably be the first idiot to fuse it with something ;)

[Rended]

just got a second blazeborn (wanderer+SG). I'll probably be the first idiot to fuse it with something ;)

Fu-fuzing a blazeborn O.O That makes me cringe!!! haha

[inkjets]

Phyrus + Notus = Guardians Battlegear. That was interesting. Anyone else end up with that result?

[KOA]

Quick theory check, has anyone ever fused an epic with at least one of the armors used for fusion being over lvl 1?

[XBDMRRFPN]

just fused
sky guardian + infernal = torchflame
swamp shaman+roc=glacier armor

both level 1
so upset... so upset...
trashed something like 180 EP points but I need a better armor


I am quite sure that if those kind of armors are not upgraded in any way they go for rubbish, so better to fuse above level 20

anytime I fuse first levels I get rubbish, sure you can get something good with lvl1 but in my experience is far less likely...
I got just rubbish of rubbish

[Geist19]

Slimebane + Roc Feather = StormRage

StormRage + Assassin's Shroud = Glacier

This is why I stopped combining armors :(

[Marco_]

Quick theory check, has anyone ever fused an epic with at least one of the armors used for fusion being over lvl 1?
Lots of the dragon armors used were probably non-plus level 35 ones I'd guess...

[Marco_]

Slimebane + Roc Feather = StormRage
StormRage + Assassin's Shroud = Glacier
This is why I stopped combining armors :(
Well, general advise seems to be to do 4-star + 4-star or 3-star + 3-star. Neither of those fall in those categories...

[Nicco]

Phyrus + Notus = Guardians Battlegear. That was interesting. Anyone else end up with that result?

Yes, yes I did.

[Nicco]

Quick theory check, has anyone ever fused an epic with at least one of the armors used for fusion being over lvl 1?

What theory are you checking?

[Dexavus]

Quick theory check, has anyone ever fused an epic with at least one of the armors used for fusion being over lvl 1?

Yes, I did barb raiding gear level 1 with eurus level 35 and got blaze level 17

[Nicco]

no one knows for sure but yeah I think so!

No, it doesn't, it just results in an armor that is the average of the two combined armors.

[XBDMRRFPN]

No, it doesn't, it just results in an armor that is the average of the two combined armors.
everytime I fuse lvl1 I got rubbish
when I fuse upper levels I got something good

From now on I will only fuse upper level armors

It is very likely that anyone that got something good was fusing high levels armors (the useless non plus)

[Cind3r]

So i fused barb with Eurus hoping for cloudrange and got Blazeborne...again for the 3rd time. If another epic comes out with fire in it i will use this to try and fuse it.

1 strange thing though, I maxed my first piece of armor the other day (i kept changing armor priority so i never maxed one) The one i maxed was moontide and got the achievement "Novice Smith". Does this mean that the game thinks that EPIC armor is the lowest rarity (in code) thus when fusing will treat it as a common? Food for thought.

[Sakino]

Now we need someone who fuses a blazeborne for ep.... Imagine getting only 5-10 ep, cause gree think no one ever fused it away.... By the way, is cloudrange fuseable? Have got lots of roc gods and swamp shamans

[ZERO_07]

Why are you people trying to fuse for Cloudrange? Just wait till someone with Legendary Mono Air and Water armors tries it.

[UberNoob]

Hey guys ! My fusion results :
Asura (Lv.1) + Royal Flame (Lv.1) = Blackfrost Raiment
Ancient Dragon Boreas (Lv.1) + Phyrus (Lv.13) = Blazeborne Vanguard (Lv.9)
Storm Sorcerer (Lv.37) + Aegis Of The Fallen (Lv.13) = Glacier (Lv.20)

[ZERO_07]

You guys really need to stop fusing 2 and 3 Stars with Legendaries

[WarChicken]

You guys really need to stop fusing 2 and 3 Stars with Legendaries

to each his own dude!

and its entertaining to read other people cleaning out their "closets" of unneeded armors.
not everyone are as lucky as you to have those armor sets depicted in ur siggy.

[ZERO_07]

to each his own dude!

and its entertaining to read other people cleaning out their "closets" of unneeded armors.
not everyone are as lucky as you to have those armor sets depicted in ur siggy.
It's just a waste of gold and fusion stones that could go towards leveling your armors.

And I only have half of the armors in my sig btw

[D3athShade]

Majestic is right... Fuzing 2* or 3* with legendaries is bound to fail. Only fuse 4* with 4* or use fusion stones to get 50EP armors... Right Majestic?

[NinJaPaN]

Woot, just fused rubyplate with eurus = (epic) blaZeborn sweet!
First time ever ina long time i get smtg worthwhile!(thnx to a guildmems advice)
Ps, with fuzing i mean combining,

Cheers

[Sakino]

Hopes for blazeborne
Dark prince regular (20) + swamp shaman+ (1) fresh of smith = flamehunter garb level 11,not worth the effort to updgrading. Is one of the oldest legendaries, so...

http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y427/sakinobla/2f65b0ca8b3e245ba34938a6b15e19ba_zpse8d6b3b8.jpg

Flamehunter garb (11) + Assassin shroud (35) = blackfrost level 22

http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y427/sakinobla/b1cebd290cbf3c40f7296c207bc8ac8e_zpse57482cb.jpg

worth the maxing? I missed eurus and only have spectrail plus at 45.
Fuse or max, that's the question.


Also, this is kind of sad.
Basic air + basic spirit= sky guardian!
Sky guardian + swamp shaman both level 1= atlean avenger
I morphed junk into gold and again gold into more junk. What are the chanches of getting another sky guardian?

Blazeborne, you will be mine, first or later (probably very later)

Also, look at. New popups as we wanted time later

http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y427/sakinobla/099def9ca94fa883614b661f13cccde1_zps2011d1a7.jpg

This happens when we use high level armors (dont know the precise level) to enchanche or fuse, so now we are safe.

[Jman]

It is very likely that anyone that got something good was fusing high levels armors (the useless non plus)
I got both of my blazeborns by fusing lv 1 armors (SG and wanderer; boreas and phyrus). I don't think that the level matters.

[KTran2013]

Seeing all of these awesome and lucky fusions makes me want to try some.. But with my luck, I'll get junk.. :[
I like seeing the results, though. Always interesting to read these thread posts!

[Sakino]

I got both of my blazeborns by fusing lv 1 armors (SG and wanderer; boreas and phyrus). I don't think that the level matters.
Level have no influence on results, simple on level of resulting armors. If i have a level 70 and a level 30, the result will be (70+30):2= 50

[XBDMRRFPN]

Level have no influence on results, simple on level of resulting armors. If i have a level 70 and a level 30, the result will be (70+30):2= 50
I am not that sure although with level 1 you can get good stuff as well, but in my experience less likely

[SoloStar]

That's good for you, but level doesn't change the result.

[deadlywarriors]

Armor of boreas level 35 + phyrus level 35 = ruby plate mail level 35

Armor of notus level 35 + ruby plate mail level 35 = cloud kings finery level 35

Armour of eurus level 35 + wanderers shroud level 35= boiler plate armour level 35

[Sakino]

Armor of boreas level 35 + phyrus level 35 = ruby plate mail level 35

Armor of notus level 35 + ruby plate mail level 35 = cloud kings finery level 35

Armour of eurus level 35 + wanderers shroud level 35= boiler plate armour level 35

If you dont need boiler, shot for blazeborne or try cloudrange, dont know if is a legit fusion. Maybe you can even get combustion. Air plus water/fire is one of the best fusions.

[XBDMRRFPN]

That's good for you, but level doesn't change the result.
I have experienced something different and I am going to follow this rule in the future.
You don't know how it works with fusion so you shouldn't give something like that for granted.
Or maybe you have a note from GREE that says what you say. Don't think so, nobody knows.

[SoloStar]

Yes, because a bunch of people getting the same armors you do with two lv1 armors means you're somehow right with your theory...

[Sakino]

I got , flame hunter garb, sky guardian, clay plate mantle, some cloud kings finery and ruby plates, and lots of other useful things by fusing low level armors, less than 12. I got only black frost by fusing leveled armor. I think doesn't make difference, i did lots of fusions. Even the low levels fusions are giving out the same things. I get asuras, exorcist vestments, ragebornes, brawlers and by the way combining low level or level less basics( i get like 2 glaciers every ten wawecharmers)

[Rafa]

Can 2 legendaries result into something that is not a legendary? What happens if I level them to above 50? It sure as hell would be strange if it gave me a 1 or 2 stars, lol.

[Nicco]

Can 2 legendaries result into something that is not a legendary? What happens if I level them to above 50? It sure as hell would be strange if it gave me a 1 or 2 stars, lol.

It doesn't matter what you level them to, Two legendaries can vary easily yield a two star armor.

[deathexe]

It doesn't matter what you level them to, Two legendaries can vary easily yield a two star armor.

You can only get a 3 star and up when fusing two legendaries.

[DaveO]

Yes, because a bunch of people getting the same armors you do with two lv1 armors means you're somehow right with your theory...
Are you kidding me!? Level is THE most important aspect of fusion!

Seriously though, I don't believe it anymore than you do. Don't complain about someone wanting to level a armor they plan to fuse though. This means they are spending less time and gold leveling their important armors and it makes them easier targets in the arena/guild wars. That's a win for me.

[SoloStar]

I'm not complaining and I can not care less if he levels his armor, but he has to be delusional if he believes his level theory is correct when there's enough information out there against it lol

Not stopping him from leveling it. Go right ahead.

[Sakino]

Yea, is cheaper to spend 10.000 ep in two maxed legendaries than in the lucky resulting one... And if you get a crap armor from fusion? What do you do? I will almost trow my ipad by the balcony straight to the road.

[Thegoodman]

Armor of Phyrus (Level 1, Reg) combined with Armor of Boreas (Level 1, Reg) got me Clayplate Mantle (Level 1, Reg)

Slimebane Battlegear (Level 1, Reg) combined with Armor of Notus (Level 1, Reg) got me Spectral Captain's Uniform (Level 1, Reg)

[Peaches]

Infernal Lord + Sky Guardian gave me Royal Flame :(

[Peaches]

Boiler Plate + Notus gave me Combustion :)

[Edcculus]

Eurus reg + phyrus reg = blazebourne :-)

[Cind3r]

is Ageis of the Fallen currently the only obtainable Fire/Spirit 4 Star?

Is it worth stacking this armor for future fusions?

[XBDMRRFPN]

I'm not complaining and I can not care less if he levels his armor, but he has to be delusional if he believes his level theory is correct when there's enough information out there against it lol

Not stopping him from leveling it. Go right ahead.
the way you talk should be delusional also the drop rate of the snakeskin instead of the stone at normal vs epic level.
Why everybody noticed that fighting the epic gives more probability to get the snakeskin instead the stone?

The logic is the same the more you work on something the more is likely to have a good reward.

[XBDMRRFPN]

Yes, because a bunch of people getting the same armors you do with two lv1 armors means you're somehow right with your theory...
the one that is saying that brings the Truth is you not me.
the "I know it all" here is you, fly down kid

[deathexe]

the way you talk should be delusional also the drop rate of the snakeskin instead of the stone at normal vs epic level.
Why everybody noticed that fighting the epic gives more probability to get the snakeskin instead the stone?

The logic is the same the more you work on something the more is likely to have a good reward.

The snakeskin drop has actually been worked on by many players, and we've actually tried recording the data for normal compared to epic. It has already been shown that the rate of successful snakeskin drops for epic is better than normal. The reason why we're able to do this is because it's much easier to go through 200 runs of snakeskins compared to fusing the same set of 4 star armors 200 times.

At this point of time, assuming that fusing higher leveled armors will result in a better outcome is the equivalent to assuming that tapoping repeatedly On the screen while fusing would result in a better outcome. Unless we have a large enough set of data to compare fusing two level 1 4 star armors and 2 leveled 4 star armors, we can't assume much.

[Zyntree]

I don't know if anyone else experienced this, but when I fuse 2 legendaries, wait a few days, then fuse more, I get better results than if I fuse fuse fuse! all at once. I wish I wrote down my results. Phyrus+Notus = guardian battle gear. Then I fuse other dragon armors, a jackelope, flameguard and some others and results go down hill fast. Last two fusions make IA and RF. Lame

[Sakino]

I don't know if anyone else experienced this, but when I fuse 2 legendaries, wait a few days, then fuse more, I get better results than if I fuse fuse fuse! all at once. I wish I wrote down my results. Phyrus+Notus = guardian battle gear. Then I fuse other dragon armors, a jackelope, flameguard and some others and results go down hill fast. Last two fusions make IA and RF. Lame
This is something that makes sense. More fusions, less results. I fuse only four- five times a week now, and i get more than 90% good results. Time ago, i was fusing like crazy and getting only crap.

[XBDMRRFPN]

This is something that makes sense. More fusions, less results. I fuse only four- five times a week now, and i get more than 90% good results. Time ago, i was fusing like crazy and getting only crap.
but cannot be proven easily.
Is a kind of sensation like the one I have with higher level fusions.

There is something more about high level fusions.

We know for sure, so far very few things:
1) you cannot have as a result one of the 2 armors fused
2) the level of the outcome is the average rounded up (for instance one is level 1 and the other is level 6 the outcome will have level 4)
3) the elements of the outcome armor have to be present in the two fusing armors. If an element is not the 2 armors that you fuse it will not show up in the outcome armor

now suppose to have two 3star armors at level 51 both of them (but is enough to have an average level of 51 anyway so one of them can be even a 2 stars at high level so the average total is >51)
It can't result in a 2star because 2 stars don't have level 51.
It can't be any of the 2 they came from
It can't have the missing element in the 2 fusing armors

the outcome has to be at least 3 stars and will have level 51 (or more if you made it higher)

now looking at 3 stars

Sky Guardian Armor
Wicked Wraith
Storm Sorcerer
Armor of the Infernal
Dark Prince's Royal Armor
Swamp Shaman Robes
Rocfeather Robes
Spectral Captain's Uniform

or higher level armors
I heard that the DP is not fusable so if one of the 2 in the origin is an Infernal, if fire is included in the outcome has to be something quite high anyway...
I am not sure if we can find a combination that will give us good result for sure, but if we can find this could be a good deal the same when we fuse basic fire and basic earth to get a granted 50 EP armor...

[Sakino]

but cannot be proven easily.
Is a kind of sensation like the one I have with higher level fusions.

There is something more about high level fusions.

We know for sure, so far very few things:
1) you cannot have as a result one of the 2 armors fused
2) the level of the outcome is the average rounded up (for instance one is level 1 and the other is level 6 the outcome will have level 4)
3) the elements of the outcome armor have to be present in the two fusing armors. If an element is not the 2 armors that you fuse it will not show up in the outcome armor

now suppose to have two 3star armors at level 51 both of them (but is enough to have an average level of 51 anyway so one of them can be even a 2 stars at high level so the average total is >51)
It can't result in a 2star because 2 stars don't have level 51.
It can't be any of the 2 they came from
It can't have the missing element in the 2 fusing armors

the outcome has to be at least 3 stars and will have level 51 (or more if you made it higher)

now looking at 3 stars

Sky Guardian Armor
Wicked Wraith
Storm Sorcerer
Armor of the Infernal
Dark Prince's Royal Armor
Swamp Shaman Robes
Rocfeather Robes
Spectral Captain's Uniform

or higher level armors
I heard that the DP is not fusable so if one of the 2 in the origin is an Infernal, if fire is included in the outcome has to be something quite high anyway...
I am not sure if we can find a combination that will give us good result for sure, but if we can find this could be a good deal the same when we fuse basic fire and basic earth to get a granted 50 EP armor...
Not true. Time ago my cousin fused a maxed armor at 70 the banshee loking one whit a 50 chitinous. Got a maxed wawecharmer

[XBDMRRFPN]

Not true. Time ago my cousin fused a maxed armor at 70 the banshee loking one whit a 50 chitinous. Got a maxed wawecharmer
nice to know

it would be nice to see if this is true for 2 maxed 3stars, if they can come out with a wavecharmer at 50 lvl for instance

[taylor1993]

Has anyone been able to fuse for cloudrange yet?

[Revelate]

nice to know

it would be nice to see if this is true for 2 maxed 3stars, if they can come out with a wavecharmer at 50 lvl for instance

AFAIK level of the initial armors is absolutely irrelevant to what's produced in the fusion result other than what level the resulting armor is. (A+B)/2 for resulting armor if A is the first armor's level, and B is the second armor's level.

Two 3 stars can indeed come out with a two star, which is why many people suggest fusing anything below 4 stars is a waste of resources.

If you have infinite resources you can test fusions of possibly multiple maxxed 3 stars, but honestly the resources are better spent elsewhere short of that corner case.

[XBDMRRFPN]

Has anyone been able to fuse for cloudrange yet?
this is a good question although the non+ armor is so much less than the + one

[Matti1992]

this is a good question although the non+ armor is so much less than the + one

It's not that much less, I'm pretty sure initially a mistake was made on the spreadsheet saying it had like 1250 defence when it actually has about 1550.

[taylor1993]

It has max stats of 1348/1581

[XBDMRRFPN]

so it's 300 points less than the + version...

1,492/1,739=3,231

It's actually a lot compared to the difference between Blazeborne and Blazeborne+

[Sakino]

nice to know

it would be nice to see if this is true for 2 maxed 3stars, if they can come out with a wavecharmer at 50 lvl for instance
Not going to do this myself to take pictures. My cousin nearly breaked his phone after that. Feel free to try this youself.

By the way, there surely is a sort of mess upvwhitmblazeborne stats, cause the plus version and regular one have pratically the same stats. I want to know more.
Still want someone to fuse cloudrange, i want to know if is fuseable or not, cause it look amazing and is very powerful.

Edit: now that i have a blackfrost, i will fuse away my spectral capitain that i levelled to 45 untill i knew it was a piece of crap. what i'll get by adding an infernal lord.....keeping to hope for blazeborn vanguard!

[-Solo-]

Supposedly DP is fuseable.

[Sakino]

Supposedly DP is fuseable.
Dark prince is not fuseable.if you try to fuse fire and spirit monos, a message will popup saying there is no possible combination for this fusion(because four star monos never give out less than three star results)
The same happens when you try to fuse air/earth monos, cause dragon aegis is also not fuseable.

[shukai84]

i supposed not everybody have such "good luck" to get + epic or + legendary amr from chests. So fusion is the other way to make ourselves happy hahaha
at least u get a normal epic and legendary, that' definitely better than a dumb looking 2 stars or 3.

[Sakino]

Yea, fusion is the long term armor maker other than epic bosses. I already got lots of the new four stars.

[Cind3r]

guess we will know if cloudrange is fusable soon... Epic boss is Mono water.

[possum]

Hydromancers + battlesuit = clayplate. All non-plus/normal.

[moongoose]

Did a few fusions to get inventory space and got

Guardians battlegear
Blazeborne vanguard
Sky guardian
Blackfrost raiment
Clayplate mantle

[taylor1993]

And I just got rid of cloud kings finery :(((((

[Zez]

Has anyone ever got a epic from fusing?

[Splat]

I used the spreadsheet but would like to confirm my results as this was my first time attempting to predict possible outcomes of a fusion.

If I fuse a 4 star mono-fire and a 4 star mono-water, what are my possible results?

Is there a combination of 2 armors that have a higher possibility of yielding a blazeborn than these?

I know the standard response to these questions is 'use the spreadsheet' but I figured I would double check with you all to make sure I'm reading it right.

Thanks in advance to anyone that takes the time to help out!

[KioJalxsu]

I used the spreadsheet but would like to confirm my results as this was my first time attempting to predict possible outcomes of a fusion.

If I fuse a 4 star mono-fire and a 4 star mono-water, what are my possible results?

Is there a combination of 2 armors that have a higher possibility of yielding a blazeborn than these?

I know the standard response to these questions is 'use the spreadsheet' but I figured I would double check with you all to make sure I'm reading it right.

Thanks in advance to anyone that takes the time to help out!

OK... I'm still a bit unsure on exactly how fusing epics works, but I'll list the 4*.

Boilerplate Armor (this is what I got with Wanderer's Shroud and Boreas - was hoping for Combustion, or even Flamehunters - but Boilerplate isn't too bad)
Flamehunter's Garb
Steampowered Exoskeleton (I think you can get this still... although I'd be pissed if I did)

From what I've read, I think you can get Blazeborne Vanguard whenever you combine a fire legendary, but I don't want to give you false hope.

[D3athShade]

Go back a few pages and you will see my post about how i got BlazeBorn... Added a picture as proof. I first fused Phyrus with Notus but got Ruby, the did Ruby + Boreas and got Blazeborn. Just go back 5 pages or smth... Maybe less

[KioJalxsu]

AFAIK level of the initial armors is absolutely irrelevant to what's produced in the fusion result other than what level the resulting armor is. (A+B)/2 for resulting armor if A is the first armor's level, and B is the second armor's level.

Two 3 stars can indeed come out with a two star, which is why many people suggest fusing anything below 4 stars is a waste of resources.

If you have infinite resources you can test fusions of possibly multiple maxxed 3 stars, but honestly the resources are better spent elsewhere short of that corner case.


Indeed, lvl shouldn't normally matter, but I see where (s)he is coming from.

The new fused armor will be half way between the the highest level armor and the lowest level armor.

Now both 1* and 2* armor max out at level 50, whereas a 3* will max out at lvl 70.

Now lets say you have a level 51 armor and a level 61 armor, you should get a level 56 armor. It would be impossible to get a lvl 56 1* or 2*, so it would make sense for the armor to have to be at least 3*.

Although it may be able to just create a maxed out lvl 50 armor. I've not tried it, but I understand where (s)he is coming from.

[KioJalxsu]

Did a few fusions to get inventory space and got

Guardians battlegear
Blazeborne vanguard
Sky guardian
Blackfrost raiment
Clayplate mantle

Don't feel like saying what you combined to get them then?

[Dagobah]

Phyrus 35 + Notus 35 = Cloudking 35 :( Hoping for Blazeborne
Cloudking + Wanderer = Combustion :) Good enough for me!

Boreas + Mountainvine = Cloudking :( (Hoping for clayplate)

Infernal + Spectral = Asura Twice and some other junk 2 star the 3rd time! Leveled to 20 frist and the other 2 pairs were +.
Swamp20 + Roc 20 = Spectral 20

I now have Dark Prince 20, Spectral 20, Eurus 35 and cloudking 19 to play with.
I have materials to make 2 more sets of swamp and roc, anyone have any luck getting anything good from those or should I try my 20 DP with swamp?

I have the 4 dragons +, should get BK+ and I have fused combustion.
I am leveling Boreas+, Phyrus+, and Combustion while hoarding until android releases dragon awards.

If another 5 gem summon happens I will get assasin+ & slimebane+ if I don't get guardian and clayplate through fusion (also hoping for a boilerplate fusion). I will likely also skip to Aegis of the fallen and skip DP and all the bigger 4 even tough I leveled to 20 to unlock the +.
When the opportunity for bk+ showed up I splurged a little after having gotten many summon stoned dragons with videos (which dried up halfway through the dragon event).
I don't see me having luck for epics but I will level Eurus+ near last in the hopes of Moontide fusing.

Any suggestions? I clear the elite DP castle 5 times daily with the help of friends until I finish leveling my armours, what armour set ups should I focus on for leveling as I should be 95 soon?
Any advice is greatly appreciated as I followed the suggestion of the big 4 which helped me immensely. My AA+50 was accidentally enhanced but I now have Boreas+50 to replace it. Would've been nice to have had both with Cirus for leviathan, but oh well...

[Sakino]

Everyone know the biscuit-looking shield of montide, no? I just fused roc god and swamp shaman, and everyone know that the first sprites that someone see of the armors are the sides, so the shield.
I nearly got a heart attack. Half waked up, take the ipad, and fuse those armors. Look what i get out?
http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y427/sakinobla/e7fcf2cb7c8da3854b7abb7adca54593_zps358960b9.jpg the shields were pratically the same, so i got first an heart attack cause to the moontide thinking, and a second cause i realized is this one. Will try again soon.

[shukai84]

how i wish that aegis of drg can be fused! or amr can be brought with money!

[Dagobah]

how i wish that aegis of drg can be fused! or amr can be brought with money!

It can be... Gems and the DPC lol.
But truly my best gems spent on armour has been the summoning stone and fusing.
I did an 11 DPC on a 3 times legendary event and got 1 legendary Mountainvineand junk. Lesson learned...
The 4 Dragon + event for the BK+ was pretty close to a buy a cool + armour event if you spent on the summoning stone.

[madfighters]

I got Firestone fiery from combining wing walker and dragon flame Armor

[Cind3r]

Extensive Research Results

Below is a list of the combos i have tried over the last 2 months. Got some luck... but mainly unlucky. Also i tried some dumb combos just to see. My conclusion is: Fuse Combine must use the same chance formula that the DB chests use cause legendarys are rare as anything.

I am in dire need to get a cloud king so i can fuse it with the current boss for some epic luck :) Hope this helps

Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Ruby Platemail
Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Armor of the Infernal Lord
Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Guardian's Battlegear
Ruby Platemail + Armor of Boreas = Blazeborne Vanguard
Tempered Battlegear + Armor of Notus = Blazeborne Vanguard
Stormrage + Living Flame = Hydra Hunter's Mail
Dark Prince's Royal Armor+ + Storm Sorcerer+ = Barbarian Raiding Gear
Barbarian Raiding Gear + Armor of Eurus = Blazeborne Vanguard
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Molten Shroud
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Molten Shroud
Lightning Lord + Molten Shroud = Rageborne Raiment
Royal Flame + Flowstone Battlegear = Brawlers Armor
Wind Monarch + Volcanic Mantle = Living Flame
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Wind Monarch
Swamp Shaman + Rocfeather = Monstrous Garb
Lightning Lord + Brawlers Armor = Exorcists Vestments
Exorcists Vestments + Rageborne Raiment = Living Flame
Monstrous Garb + Living Flame = Molten Shroud
Riverstone + Wind Monarch = Atlantean Avenger
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Chimera Corps Uniform
Stonescale Plate Mail + Wing Warrior's Armor = Crius Armor
Stonescale Plate Mail + Wing Warrior's Armor = Crius Armor
Fire Fusion Boost + Air Fusion Boost = Barbarian Raiding Gear
Air Fusion Boost + Water Fusion Boost = Atlantean Avenger
Hydra Hunter's Mail + Crius Armor = Swamp Shaman
Wind Monarch + Snakeskin = Crius Armor
Wind Monarch + Snakeskin = Chimera Corps Uniform
Wind Monarch + Snakeskin = Monks Vestments
Snakeskin + Wind Monarch = Storm Sorcerer
Snakeskin + Wind Monarch = Atlantean Avenger
Atlantean Avenger + Brawlers Armor = Flowstone Battlegear
Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Flamestorm Finery
Flamestorm Finery + Monks Vestments = Crius Armor
Storm Sorcerer + Armor of the Infernal Lord = Riverstone Mantle
Stormrage + Royal Flame = Glacier Armor

[taylor1993]

Extensive Research Results

Below is a list of the combos i have tried over the last 2 months. Got some luck... but mainly unlucky. Also i tried some dumb combos just to see. My conclusion is: Fuse Combine must use the same chance formula that the DB chests use cause legendarys are rare as anything.


I am in dire need to get a cloud king so i can fuse it with the current boss for some epic luck :) Hope this helps

Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Ruby Platemail
Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Armor of the Infernal Lord
Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Guardian's Battlegear
Ruby Platemail + Armor of Boreas = Blazeborne Vanguard
Tempered Battlegear + Armor of Notus = Blazeborne Vanguard
Stormrage + Living Flame = Hydra Hunter's Mail
Dark Prince's Royal Armor+ + Storm Sorcerer+ = Barbarian Raiding Gear
Barbarian Raiding Gear + Armor of Eurus = Blazeborne Vanguard
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Molten Shroud
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Molten Shroud
Lightning Lord + Molten Shroud = Rageborne Raiment
Royal Flame + Flowstone Battlegear = Brawlers Armor
Wind Monarch + Volcanic Mantle = Living Flame
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Wind Monarch
Swamp Shaman + Rocfeather = Monstrous Garb
Lightning Lord + Brawlers Armor = Exorcists Vestments
Exorcists Vestments + Rageborne Raiment = Living Flame
Monstrous Garb + Living Flame = Molten Shroud
Riverstone + Wind Monarch = Atlantean Avenger
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Chimera Corps Uniform
Stonescale Plate Mail + Wing Warrior's Armor = Crius Armor
Stonescale Plate Mail + Wing Warrior's Armor = Crius Armor
Fire Fusion Boost + Air Fusion Boost = Barbarian Raiding Gear
Air Fusion Boost + Water Fusion Boost = Atlantean Avenger
Hydra Hunter's Mail + Crius Armor = Swamp Shaman
Wind Monarch + Snakeskin = Crius Armor
Wind Monarch + Snakeskin = Chimera Corps Uniform
Wind Monarch + Snakeskin = Monks Vestments
Snakeskin + Wind Monarch = Storm Sorcerer
Snakeskin + Wind Monarch = Atlantean Avenger
Atlantean Avenger + Brawlers Armor = Flowstone Battlegear
Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Flamestorm Finery
Flamestorm Finery + Monks Vestments = Crius Armor
Storm Sorcerer + Armor of the Infernal Lord = Riverstone Mantle
Stormrage + Royal Flame = Glacier Armor

This is awesome man good stuff. I'm trying desperately to get my hands on the cloud king as well. I fused away my set alone time ago :(

[Strayfe]

Swamp + roc = lightning Lord. Again....grr.

[Marco_]

I used the spreadsheet but would like to confirm my results as this was my first time attempting to predict possible outcomes of a fusion.

If I fuse a 4 star mono-fire and a 4 star mono-water, what are my possible results?

discaimer: run against a copy of the spreadsheet 2 days old and I hope my SQL query crafting has been OK. Assumed that 2x 4-star doesn't result in anything below 3-star. Boss armors I guess to be too recent to fuse preceded by a "#" mark. Sorted by maxcombined, descending.
Fusion options for 4-star mono-fire and mono-water:

name maxatk maxdef maxcombined
Blazeborne Vanguard 1654 1459 3113
Boilerplate Armor 873 1149 2022
Flamehunter's Garb 990 989 1979
#Wanderer's Shroud 854 1009 1863
Jian's Battlegear 1056 798 1854
#Hydromancer's Mantle 854 771 1625
Ruby Plate Mail 798 581 1379
Steampowered Exoskeleton 684 684 1368
Chitinous Armor 608 746 1354

The other options if you don't get Blazeborne would have been great on the last boss and therefore probably won't be super useful on bosses for a while, but fallback options of mono-fire + 'N' fusion seem not that great. :( Boreas (air/water) instead of mono-water would also give you a shot at Combustion (air/fire) if you don't get Blazeborne [1]. (though that won't be very useful if you already got Combustion+ from guild wars...)



[1] adds some other air/fire and air armors too though...

[Lord Of The Infernal]

I really like Combustion armor not because of the states it's just look so wonderful!

[Sir.]

I used the spreadsheet but would like to confirm my results as this was my first time attempting to predict possible outcomes of a fusion.

If I fuse a 4 star mono-fire and a 4 star mono-water, what are my possible results?

Is there a combination of 2 armors that have a higher possibility of yielding a blazeborn than these?

I know the standard response to these questions is 'use the spreadsheet' but I figured I would double check with you all to make sure I'm reading it right.

Thanks in advance to anyone that takes the time to help out!

Since you got a few wrong answers before, these are your results for **** mono's water+fire:

Vanguard
Boilerplate
Flamehunter
Ruby

Not exactly worth the odds imo.

For getting Vanguard from fusion my most adviced combination would still be fire/water + mono spirit. Since Cloudrange has not been confirmed as fusable I'd go for the combination to get either Vanguard or Moontide with the fewest possible extra outcomes. Since fire/spirit, mono spirit and mono water don't have any possible outcomes when combining 2x **** you are left with only the results for mono fire and water/spirit, the two exact combinations you're looking for. The possible results are:

Vanguard
Ruby
Moontide
Blackfrost
Spectral

Hope this helps you to better understand fusing strategies for epics. :)


Indeed, lvl shouldn't normally matter, but I see where (s)he is coming from.

The new fused armor will be half way between the the highest level armor and the lowest level armor.

Now both 1* and 2* armor max out at level 50, whereas a 3* will max out at lvl 70.

Now lets say you have a level 51 armor and a level 61 armor, you should get a level 56 armor. It would be impossible to get a lvl 56 1* or 2*, so it would make sense for the armor to have to be at least 3*.

Although it may be able to just create a maxed out lvl 50 armor. I've not tried it, but I understand where (s)he is coming from.

You will get a maxed out lvl 50 armor, has been priorely confirmed.


[...]
Any suggestions? I clear the elite DP castle 5 times daily with the help of friends until I finish leveling my armours, what armour set ups should I focus on for leveling as I should be 95 soon?
Any advice is greatly appreciated as I followed the suggestion of the big 4 which helped me immensely. My AA+50 was accidentally enhanced but I now have Boreas+50 to replace it. Would've been nice to have had both with Cirus for leviathan, but oh well...

My suggestion would be to not be too eager to fuse. Just focus on enhancing your good armors and keep your fusion stones for making 50 ep armors. Only when you need a new, good armor to max and you have the **** armors that give good probabilities at this armor try fusing them, but analyze the possible results carefully. In most occassions 2 double element armors give you too many possible outcomes to make the fusion worth it. Never fuse anything higher than basics or lower than ****, as you are most likely to downgrade your armor, which is a great waste of ep.


Extensive Research Results

Below is a list of the combos i have tried over the last 2 months. Got some luck... but mainly unlucky. [...]

You upgraded at least half your armors. I'd say you're VERY lucky with those results. Fusing normally means downgrading in the long run.

[Marco_]

Since you got a few wrong answers before, these are your results for **** mono's water+fire:

Vanguard
Boilerplate
Flamehunter
Ruby

Where exactly is the "boss armor not fusable anymore" cutoff?
Jian might be after it, but I don't think Chitinous is.
And Steampowered doesn't seem to be a boss armor at all, so I don't see why that one shouldn't be on the list..
The spreadsheet could use a "can be fused" column... :-|

[Sir.]

Where exactly is the "boss armor not fusable anymore" cutoff?
Jian might be after it, but I don't think Chitinous is.
And Steampowered doesn't seem to be a boss armor at all, so I don't see why that one shouldn't be on the list..
The spreadsheet could use a "can be fused" column... :-|

I agree that column would be a good addition. Exo wasn't a boss armor but a chest armor (craftable too, but materials only attainable from gold chest), chitinous is behind the cut off. The only **** boss armors I can currently think of that have been confirmed fusable are Cloud King and Ruby, no others at all.

Eitherway, this is based on what armors have been confirmed fusable, by the experiences of a fair amount of veteran players. I'm sure that if it would have been possible to fuse these two (old) armors, it would have been confirmed a long time ago.

[Sakino]

The old boss armors, the two star ones, are fuseable. I dont remember if the goblin exoskeleton is fuseable.

[shukai84]

Anybody fused combustion before?

[7rip]

Combustion is fuseable I do believe...

[ZERO_07]

Anybody fused combustion before?
Yea, I got it with Ruby Plate and Boreas.

[Mmmozzy]

Is the normal version of Aegis of the Dragon worth keeping and levelling?

[~Nate~]

Is it possible to fuse combustion with no ancient dragons?

[taylor1993]

Is the normal version of Aegis of the Dragon worth keeping and levelling?

Yes it's still better than most legendary plus armors.

[Dagobah]

Is it possible to fuse combustion with no ancient dragons?

I got it from cloudking and wanderer (legendary air and fire).

[moongoose]

Anyone fuzed Cloudrange?

[Sir.]

Anyone fuzed Cloudrange?

It has not been confirmed fusable yet.

[Erronious]

Is it possible to fuse combustion with no ancient dragons?
I fused it with infernal and storm sorcerer

[-Solo-]

It has not been confirmed fusable yet.

I'm guessing when the next chest sale is available and cloudrange is a confirmed drop from it, cloudrange will be fusable.

[taylor1993]

I'm guessing when the next chest sale is available and cloudrange is a confirmed drop from it, cloudrange will be fusable.

That actually seems very likely.

[possum]

Admiral Regalia (lvl 54 normal) + Deep Dragon (lvl 45 normal) = boilerplate (lvl 50 normal)

[Sakino]

Admiral Regalia (lvl 54 normal) + Deep Dragon (lvl 45 normal) = boilerplate (lvl 50 normal) perfect shot. Congratulations.

[possum]

Thanks. Got lucky on my last two combines, one being clayplate and the other boilerplate. I typically get crap and don't even bother posting the results. I also stopped combining anything other than legendary now, it's not worth the stone to combine three stars for me anymore.

The question I have is, do you need or have a better chance at the plus version if you combine plus versions? Do you need two plus versions or is just one enough to boost the chances or does it even matter and the odds are low regardless?

Has anyone combined two legendary plus versions? I tried browsing this thread, but it's too long.

[~Nate~]

Is there a chance for moontide if you fuse the assasin's Shroud and the new epic boss armor?

[Sportsgrunt]

After leveling the normal boss armor to lvl 35 is it better to combine in leveling the + armor or to use fusion stone and fuse. I have all the 2 star bost armors that I have not used yet. I have Pyromancer's Mantle lvl 66, Assassin's Shroud lvl 35, Tortoiseshell Aegis lvl 51, Aegis of the Fallen lvl 35,

[teratogen]

What do you get when you combine Snakeskin + Seafoam? I have a lot of these...

[QuantumP 86]

What do you get when you combine Snakeskin + Seafoam? I have a lot of these...

An illegal combination.

[teratogen]

An illegal combination.

It says I can do it...

[Jman]

It says I can do it...

Maybe you are enhancing not combining? That combination IS illegal.

[Lifesavorz]

I fused Riverstone with Torchflame, got Guardian's Battlegear :) so luckyy

[-Solo-]

You can't do it because they both have water...

[PrototypeC]

Just fused a Guardian's Battlegear from:

Armor of the Infernal Lord + Spectral Captain's Uniform

[Sakino]

Thanks. Got lucky on my last two combines, one being clayplate and the other boilerplate. I typically get crap and don't even bother posting the results. I also stopped combining anything other than legendary now, it's not worth the stone to combine three stars for me anymore.

The question I have is, do you need or have a better chance at the plus version if you combine plus versions? Do you need two plus versions or is just one enough to boost the chances or does it even matter and the odds are low regardless?

Has anyone combined two legendary plus versions? I tried browsing this thread, but it's too long.
Plus versions dont give out anithing different than non plus. Nothing chanches. By the way. Is good to fuse three stars cause you get more legendaries to play whit fusion. I get a legendary almost every six fusions.

[Sir.]

Thanks. Got lucky on my last two combines, one being clayplate and the other boilerplate. I typically get crap and don't even bother posting the results. I also stopped combining anything other than legendary now, it's not worth the stone to combine three stars for me anymore.

The question I have is, do you need or have a better chance at the plus version if you combine plus versions? Do you need two plus versions or is just one enough to boost the chances or does it even matter and the odds are low regardless?

Has anyone combined two legendary plus versions? I tried browsing this thread, but it's too long.

Wise decision of not fusing anything else than **** anymore (apart from basics for 50 ep enhancing, I assume). It is not possible to get + versions of armor from fusing. Fusing two + versions just gives you the exact same outcome as fusing two regular versions.


Is there a chance for moontide if you fuse the assasin's Shroud and the new epic boss armor?

Yes, but the chance is pretty small. The other possibilities are clayplate (which is ok), swamp shaman, blackfrost and spectral captain. Quite a big chance you're just downgrading two **** armors into one ***. I'd suggest using a fire/water legendary with a mono spirit for a shot at both moontide and vanguard, other possibilities reduced to only boiler, flamehunter and ruby.


After leveling the normal boss armor to lvl 35 is it better to combine in leveling the + armor or to use fusion stone and fuse. I have all the 2 star bost armors that I have not used yet. I have Pyromancer's Mantle lvl 66, Assassin's Shroud lvl 35, Tortoiseshell Aegis lvl 51, Aegis of the Fallen lvl 35,

The armors are pretty useless, unless you don't have two better options for a certain Epic Boss (for second and third knight). You could keep some for fusing for epics, but most combinations just have too many outcomes to make it worth fusing them. I'd suggest to think carefully which could be useful in fusion and use the rest for enhancing fodder.


Plus versions dont give out anithing different than non plus. Nothing chanches. By the way. Is good to fuse three stars cause you get more legendaries to play whit fusion. I get a legendary almost every six fusions.

I don't think you take the value of fusion stars as well as ep in consideration very well. Saying you get a legendary every six fusions, you have used 12 *** armor (1080 ep!) and 6 fusion stones (300 ep). Say on average you get 2x *** as a result and 3x **, that's 180+150=330 ep back, plus a legendary. You have used 1380 ep worth of materials for 330 ep and a legendary back. A legendary which is mostly useless too, mediocre at best. Doesn't seem worth it to me, by far.

[Sakino]

Wise decision of not fusing anything else than **** anymore (apart from basics for 50 ep enhancing, I assume). It is not possible to get + versions of armor from fusing. Fusing two + versions just gives you the exact same outcome as fusing two regular versions.



Yes, but the chance is pretty small. The other possibilities are clayplate (which is ok), swamp shaman, blackfrost and spectral captain. Quite a big chance you're just downgrading two **** armors into one ***. I'd suggest using a fire/water legendary with a mono spirit for a shot at both moontide and vanguard, other possibilities reduced to only boiler, flamehunter and ruby.



The armors are pretty useless, unless you don't have two better options for a certain Epic Boss (for second and third knight). You could keep some for fusing for epics, but most combinations just have too many outcomes to make it worth fusing them. I'd suggest to think carefully which could be useful in fusion and use the rest for enhancing fodder.



I don't think you take the value of fusion stars as well as ep in consideration very well. Saying you get a legendary every six fusions, you have used 12 *** armor (1080 ep!) and 6 fusion stones (300 ep). Say on average you get 2x *** as a result and 3x **, that's 180+150=330 ep back, plus a legendary. You have used 1380 ep worth of materials for 330 ep and a legendary back. A legendary which is mostly useless too, mediocre at best. Doesn't seem worth it to me, by far. dont need so much ep for now, and i like playing whit fusions a lot. This legendary i get can give me a shot for the epics, the armors i'm aiming for. I dont say this is not a wasteful way, but i need more the epics than ep for now.

[Joshx135]

Armor of the Infernal Lord + Rocfeather Robes= Cloud Kings Finery.

[taylor1993]

Josh did you craft the new levethian armor yet? Try to fuse it with cloud king and let us know. If cloudrange is fusable that's the best shot.

[Sakino]

Josh did you craft the new levethian armor yet? Try to fuse it with cloud king and let us know. If cloudrange is fusable that's the best shot.
Two legendary monos give out only a three star and higher armor. You will end up whit a cloudrange, is its fuseable yet) or whit a storm sorcer.

[taylor1993]

Two legendary monos give out only a three star and higher armor. You will end up whit a cloudrange, is its fuseable yet) or whit a storm sorcer.

Exactly. This armor came at the perfect time to test it out. I will be using my non plus version to try for it once I get my hands on the finery and see that it can be confirmed as a fusable armor.

[shukai84]

I got combustion from fusing infer and SS! :)

[Sir.]

dont need so much ep for now, and i like playing whit fusions a lot. This legendary i get can give me a shot for the epics, the armors i'm aiming for. I dont say this is not a wasteful way, but i need more the epics than ep for now.

Out of curiosity: how can you not need ep? Unless you open a lot of chests and don't get any armors worth keeping, you always have legends to enhance? It takes about a week to max an EB armor, so you pretty much have always something to enhance, right?

[Joshx135]

I'm on android so I don't think it's on our version yet. I'm not even sure it's even fuseable so I'm cautious about potentially wasting it when I'm going for combustion.

[Cainr71]

Fuzed blaze using notus and phyrus

[Mr Spock]

Fuzed blaze using notus and phyrus

Same here... Pretty happy since it was my first try using 4 star. This forum gave me the confidence...I do have a cloud king so I will try him with the leviathan after I get it to level 35...

[taylor1993]

Same here... Pretty happy since it was my first try using 4 star. This forum gave me the confidence...I do have a cloud king so I will try him with the leviathan after I get it to level 35...

Hey I don't know if you read earlier in this thread but I don't believe cloudrange is fuseable yet. If gree release it in a chance chest it may be but untill then I wouldn't waste a cloud king. Just some friendly advice. I know I told that other kid to do it but I just had the thought.

[Sakino]

Out of curiosity: how can you not need ep? Unless you open a lot of chests and don't get any armors worth keeping, you always have legends to enhance? It takes about a week to max an EB armor, so you pretty much have always something to enhance, right?
I'm saving up 20 fusion boosts and lots of 50 ep armors to enchanche some epics i will get from fusions. Not going to level this boss armor, for now. I dont say is bad, is simply a step after my first epic.

[Necromancers]

Mine are probably really boring...

Seafoam + Dragonflame = Rageborne Raiment and Hydra Hunter
Wing Warrior + Mystic = Exorcist's Vestments
Stonescale + Seafoam = Vinewood Carapace
Vinewood Carapace + Dragonflame = Forgemaster's Garb
Dragonflame + Mystic = Embersteel and Living Flame Armor
Seafoam + Wing Warrior = Atlantean Avenger
Stonescale + Mystic = Monk's Vestments

[Sir.]

Hey I don't know if you read earlier in this thread but I don't believe cloudrange is fuseable yet. If gree release it in a chance chest it may be but untill then I wouldn't waste a cloud king. Just some friendly advice. I know I told that other kid to do it but I just had the thought.

I do agree, if Cloudrange is fusable it would probably have been confirmed by now. Moontide and Vanguard took under a day to be confirmed, with Moontide probably being harder too due to the possibility of BF and Spectral from w/s.


I'm saving up 20 fusion boosts and lots of 50 ep armors to enchanche some epics i will get from fusions. Not going to level this boss armor, for now. I dont say is bad, is simply a step after my first epic.

You've been keeping up with the enhancing pretty well then. Wouldn't say I'd advice that decision, but that's all yours, good luck.


Mine are probably really boring...

Seafoam + Dragonflame = Rageborne Raiment and Hydra Hunter
Wing Warrior + Mystic = Exorcist's Vestments
Stonescale + Seafoam = Vinewood Carapace
Vinewood Carapace + Dragonflame = Forgemaster's Garb
Dragonflame + Mystic = Embersteel and Living Flame Armor
Seafoam + Wing Warrior = Atlantean Avenger
Stonescale + Mystic = Monk's Vestments

I'd suggest you stop fusing those low armors mate. You're wasting a lot of ep and fusion stones, which are quite valuable you'll notice later.

[Necromancers]

I'd suggest you stop fusing those low armors mate. You're wasting a lot of ep and fusion stones, which are quite valuable you'll notice later.

Those were ALL of the fusions which I have done on both my accounts. I still have 20 Fusion Stones on my iPhone account and so far my only fusing attempts I've done on Android were trying to get all the Big Four armors.

[Sir.]

Those were ALL of the fusions which I have done on both my accounts. I still have 20 Fusion Stones on my iPhone account and so far my only fusing attempts I've done on Android were trying to get all the Big Four armors.

That's just about enough to max ONE level 70 armor, providing it has either a water or an earth element. For the big 4: two basics armors will do the trick. :)

[possum]

As soon as I get the current boss armor made and leveled up to 35 I'm fusing it with my lvl 35 assassin's shroud. I really want moon tide, although I'm sure I'll get another lame spectral lol.

I've been trying for moon tide a lot, but it's been elusive to say the least.

[Sir.]

As soon as I get the current boss armor made and leveled up to 35 I'm fusing it with my lvl 35 assassin's shroud. I really want moon tide, although I'm sure I'll get another lame spectral lol.

I've been trying for moon tide a lot, but it's been elusive to say the least.

Wouldn't go for it if I were you, too much chance of a *** (swamp + spect)

[iH8t2lose2]

As soon as I get the current boss armor made and leveled up to 35 I'm fusing it with my lvl 35 assassin's shroud. I really want moon tide, although I'm sure I'll get another lame spectral lol.

I've been trying for moon tide a lot, but it's been elusive to say the least.

I'm doing that too, but not leveling it. Three more hours to wait though.

[possum]

I level them up so I can make the plus version if I decide to.

Yeah, I know it's a long shot, but the reward outweighs the risk for me.

[Dagobah]

That's just about enough to max ONE level 70 armor, providing it has either a water or an earth element. For the big 4: two basics armors will do the trick. :)

Are you saying 20 fusion stones is enough to max a lvl 70? If so please give me some guidance here or through a link to elsewhere. Kind regards.
I may be trying to merge storyline armours after I finish my BK+, Combustion, Boreas+, Pyrus+, Notus+, Eurus+.
Hoping for Clayplate and Guardian, but may settle for Assasin+, Slime+ if there is a 5 gem summon or I get other boss armours to fill the gaps.

[Sir.]

Are you saying 20 fusion stones is enough to max a lvl 70? If so please give me some guidance here or through a link to elsewhere. Kind regards.
I may be trying to merge storyline armours after I finish my BK+, Combustion, Boreas+, Pyrus+, Notus+, Eurus+.
Hoping for Clayplate and Guardian, but may settle for Assasin+, Slime+ if there is a 5 gem summon or I get other boss armours to fill the gaps.

I probably should have clarified that that is for the last levels only, 60-70 takes approx 20 fusion stones (50 ep fusions), which is the most efficient method, gold-wise, for those levels. By the time you max all those armors you'll be 1-2 months further without spending money to open chests, by which time you'll probably have some more EB + armors waiting in line already, which are just as good as clayplate or guardian.

[iH8t2lose2]

Assassaibs shroud and the new boss armor- spectral captain :(

[BW Rhaegar]

35 Leviathan + 35 Aegis of Fallen = Ruby
Ruby + 50 Notus = Cloud King

Dissapointed I lost my Notus, but I am happy that Cloud King will be a huge help fusing Cloudrange..

[~Nate~]

Slimebane + Aegis of the fallen = flame hunter garb
Both lvl 1

I'm happy :)

[geo81]

I've tried reading through most of this thread to find out, has anyone fused a moontide yet?

[possum]

I doubt there's any code written for this, but I'm curious to know if there's some mechanism in place that prevents you from combining an armor already in your possession? i.e., if I have Spectral in my inventory (which I currently don't), will my chances of fusing another spectral be zero?

Or has anyone crafted an armor already in their possession?,

[Dagobah]

I doubt there's any code written for this, but I'm curious to know if there's some mechanism in place that prevents you from combining an armor already in your possession? i.e., if I have Spectral in my inventory (which I currently don't), will my chances of fusing another spectral be zero?

Or has anyone crafted an armor already in their possession?,

Yes you can fuse what is already in your inventory. I got 2 Asura in a row from Infernal and spectral.

[possum]

Thanks.



Ten characters.

[Brutal1977]

Hi all, I'm just getting started here. I've read through quite a bit of this thread. It's clear a lot of work's been done here, and I'd like to start off by simply saying thanks!

I've seen some tips throughout such as: don't combine a 2 star with a 3 star, you can't get a + version as a result, and using + armors doesn't give you a better chance at a rare armor result. Has anyone collected these tips, or simply presented the top five tips for combining armors?

I've got some of the recent boss armor, did I read somewhere that these can't be combined? i.e. will I run into problems trying to combine Leviathan's Platemail with Assassin's Shroud or Aegis of the Fallen?

For posterity, my first 10 combines:
11 Basic Fire Armor + 11 Basic Water Armor = 11 Hydra Hunter's Mail
11 Basic Fire Armor + 11 Basic Water Armor = 11 Hydra Hunter's Mail
11 Basic Fire Armor + 11 Basic Water Armor = 11 Hydra Hunter's Mail
11 Basic Fire Armor + 11 Basic Water Armor = 11 Rageborne Raiment
11 Basic Fire Armor + 11 Basic Water Armor = 11 Hydra Hunter's Mail
11 Basic Fire Armor + 11 Basic Water Armor = 11 Hydra Hunter's Mail
11 Basic Fire Armor + 11 Basic Water Armor = 11 Hydra Hunter's Mail
11 Basic Fire Armor + 11 Basic Water Armor = 11 Rageborne Raiment
20 Rocfeather Robes + 20 Swamp Shaman Robes = 20 Flowstone Battlegear
20 Armor of the Infernal + 15 Spectral Captain's Uniform = 18 Riverstone Mantle

[-Solo-]

I've got some of the recent boss armor, did I read somewhere that these can't be combined? i.e. will I run into problems trying to combine Leviathan's Platemail with Assassin's Shroud or Aegis of the Fallen?

There's a cutoff point for previous boss armors that can be fused. Fusing boss armors is different. You can use any boss armors for fusion, you just can't get boss armors that were after the cutoff point. ie: dragon boss armors can't be fused, but the cutoff point is still before the dragon armors.


20 Rocfeather Robes + 20 Swamp Shaman Robes = 20 Flowstone Battlegear

This makes it look like it will only give you Flowstone, but there's a chance for Moontide. That's some RNG you have there.

[Rafa]

I think he meant level 20 armors, he didn't try that combination 20 times. He said those were his first 10 combinations so I am assuming these numbers are just level of the armors.

Also he has a terrible luck!

Monstreous garb + torchflame = combustion

[-Solo-]

Ah, you're correct. I guess it would also be a pain to craft 20 shamans and rocs...lol

[Mr Spock]

Hey I don't know if you read earlier in this thread but I don't believe cloudrange is fuseable yet. If gree release it in a chance chest it may be but untill then I wouldn't waste a cloud king. Just some friendly advice. I know I told that other kid to do it but I just had the thought.

Ok I'll wait... By the way it seems that Boreas with leviathan or cloud king would also work with the same probability as leviathan and clod king..

[Sakino]

Mine are probably really boring...

Seafoam + Dragonflame = Rageborne Raiment and Hydra Hunter
Wing Warrior + Mystic = Exorcist's Vestments
Stonescale + Seafoam = Vinewood Carapace
Vinewood Carapace + Dragonflame = Forgemaster's Garb
Dragonflame + Mystic = Embersteel and Living Flame Armor
Seafoam + Wing Warrior = Atlantean Avenger
Stonescale + Mystic = Monk's Vestments
Those armors are lots of enchanchement points. If you have some fusion stones, keep them for your 70 armors and whtn snakeskins start to be slow and pricey(level 50 for unmatching and 60 for matching) start fusing flamestorm finery, wawecharmer mantle, monk vestments or volcanic mantles. Those can be fused by the basic armors and give out for sure 50 ep. Combinations like air earth , air water, fire water can give you craftable armors, the one you should avoid cause they give 24 ep only.

[taylor1993]

Ok I'll wait... By the way it seems that Boreas with leviathan or cloud king would also work with the same probability as leviathan and clod king..

You can't combined boreas with cloud king or levethian.

[Brutal1977]

I think he meant level 20 armors, he didn't try that combination 20 times. He said those were his first 10 combinations so I am assuming these numbers are just level of the armors.

Also he has a terrible luck!

Monstreous garb + torchflame = combustion


Yes, those were levels. Pardon the confusion. :)

Here's my 11th:
Atlantean Avenger Armor + Chimera Corps Uniform = Snakeskin Armor :/

[Mr Spock]

You can't combined boreas with cloud king or levethian.

Ohhhhh!!! Right....well it was a good thought.... :)

[Sir.]

Yes, those were levels. Pardon the confusion. :)

Here's my 11th:
Atlantean Avenger Armor + Chimera Corps Uniform = Snakeskin Armor :/

Before you go on fusing away more stones, read Sakino's post above (saves me the explaining :p). As an example, with this fusiong you used 2x 24 ep armor plus a fusion stone which nets 50 ep (98 ep total), to get a useless armor worth 24 ep. The chances of getting anything useful from any fusion other than 2x **** are so low that they don't make it worth your stones or armor you're using for it.

For a more painful example: your lvl 20 roc + lvl 20 swamp: 99 ep + 99 ep + 50 ep (fs), which gave you a lvl 20 flowstone; 69 ep. Threw 179 ep down the drain right there.

[Rafa]

Yes, those were levels. Pardon the confusion. :)

Here's my 11th:
Atlantean Avenger Armor + Chimera Corps Uniform = Snakeskin Armor :/

Stop fusing 1 stars rares / uncommons or commons that you see there is a chance they will come out a craftable armor... you are wasting money. Either fuse low levels to make 50ep armors to boost your real armors or fuse 2 stars and so on. If you are lucky you can get good stuff from 2 stars, but its rly hard. 3-4 stars are your best bet.

gl

[Sir.]

Stop fusing 1 stars rares / uncommons or commons that you see there is a chance they will come out a craftable armor... you are wasting money. Either fuse low levels to make 50ep armors to boost your real armors or fuse 2 stars and so on. If you are lucky you can get good stuff from 2 stars, but its rly hard. 3-4 stars are your best bet.

gl

Actually fusing *** armors is a waste too, for the same reason. Too much chance of downgrading 2 armors into 1 lower one, at the cost of a fusion stone even.

[Brutal1977]

The chances of getting anything useful from any fusion other than 2x **** are so low that they don't make it worth your stones or armor you're using for it.

Thanks, this is the kind of thing I was looking for earlier. What *should* I be combining. I take it by this that fusing my Leviathan's Platemail (L1) with Assassin's Shroud (L20) or Aegis of the Fallen (L1) wouldn't be a horrible mistake? (I don't have seem to have friends with nemesis, so I don't think I can currently get to lvl 43.)

I've seen tons of results from folks, some lucky, some not, but not much in the way of actual stats on getting something useful. I maxed out my big 4 a few days ago and have started leveling Infernal+ and Shaman+ while farming Dark Prince for jewels. I don't want to get a week into that before realizing I'm wasting my time and effort.

[Sir.]

Thanks, this is the kind of thing I was looking for earlier. What *should* I be combining. I take it by this that fusing my Leviathan's Platemail (L1) with Assassin's Shroud (L20) or Aegis of the Fallen (L1) wouldn't be a horrible mistake? (I don't have seem to have friends with nemesis, so I don't think I can currently get to lvl 43.)

I've seen tons of results from folks, some lucky, some not, but not much in the way of actual stats on getting something useful. I maxed out my big 4 a few days ago and have started leveling Infernal+ and Shaman+ while farming Dark Prince for jewels. I don't want to get a week into that before realizing I'm wasting my time and effort.

Not too far off, but to fuse effectively it's a bit more complicated. Fusing just any two (4*) can still be a major waste. To give an example: fusing Boreas with Assasin's Shroud. It gives these possible results:

***** Moontide
**** Clayplate
**** Blackfrost
**** Cloud King
*** Swamp
*** Spectral
*** Sky Guardian
*** Roc Feather

Among these are 1x (5*), 3x (4*), 4x (3*). Only two of the armors are useful (Moontide and Clayplate), the rest aren't really strong enough to be worth maxing. Even worse: half of the possibilities are (3*), which you can't even use for a future shot at fusing. Of course this is an extreme example, but a lot of the combinations with two dual element armors have similar outcomes and are for that reason still not worth it. My tip: don't be too eager too fuse. You can fuse yourself 5 sweet armors, but the true challenge is maxing them. Having a lot of strong but low level armors isn't of any use either. I only fuse when there's a reasonable outcome of something useful to me (w/f and mono spirit (4*) by example, only 5 outcomes with 2 of them being (5*)) and I am ready to max them. Hope that helps, as this is where a lot of people make mistakes and just throw their armor away.

[Brutal1977]

Hope that helps, as this is where a lot of people make mistakes and just throw their armor away.

It does, and you've clearly stated what I want to avoid. Going around in circles until I figure this stuff out. I'll take all the tips I can get!

Thanks! :)

[Sir.]

It does, and you've clearly stated what I want to avoid. Going around in circles until I figure this stuff out. I'll take all the tips I can get!

Thanks! :)

Glad to be of help. It's what most people fail to avoid. ;) If you have questions about other **** combo's feel free to pm me on Line.

[Death Spirit]

I just got my luckiest fusion ever haha :p
I fused ruby plate+assassin shroud and I got
An epic armour, it was blazeborn vanguard :) made my night
Hope someone gets as lucky as I did ^.^

[Tahimaka]

I just fused Levithan (level. 1) + Notus (level. 14) = Moontide Platemail (level. 10)

I AM SO HAPPY WITH THIS FUSION

[Marco_]

Sir., a reason to do try 3-star + 3-star fusions is that if the result is a failure, new materials is a lot easier to aquire and base crafting time is 2x 1 day compared to Summoning Stone up to 25 * 30 gems and 2x 3 days for 4-star...
I myself have 120 fusion stones in the bank and it's not really going down, a bunch of 50EP armors and fusion boost armors cluttering my armor slots, DP+ waiting for a guild fusion boost quest to max it and get rid of 4 stupid fusion boost armors, Roc+ too low level to apply 50EP armors without it being kind of a waste, Assasin+ still crafting and then needing lots of leveling before 50EP armors are of use.
In such a case IMNSHO fusing 3-star armors is a sensible thing to do: takes relatively little time, doesn't use up almost non-replacable resources and only takes up 2 armor slots, which are one of the biggest bottlenecks in this game for me.
With lots of luck, you can get an epic and with a bit of luck a good legendary.
Myself, I just haven't hit that luck yet:
Dark Prince + Swamp Shaman -> Spectral Captain
Infernal + Spectral -> Steam Wizard

tl;dr: you're only looking at it from the "fusion stones, followed by EP are the bottlenecks" p.o.v.

[Sakino]

Sir., a reason to do try 3-star + 3-star fusions is that if the result is a failure, new materials is a lot easier to aquire and base crafting time is 2x 1 day compared to Summoning Stone up to 25 * 30 gems and 2x 3 days for 4-star...
I myself have 120 fusion stones in the bank and it's not really going down, a bunch of 50EP armors and fusion boost armors cluttering my armor slots, DP+ waiting for a guild fusion boost quest to max it and get rid of 4 stupid fusion boost armors, Roc+ too low level to apply 50EP armors without it being kind of a waste, Assasin+ still crafting and then needing lots of leveling before 50EP armors are of use.
In such a case IMNSHO fusing 3-star armors is a sensible thing to do: takes relatively little time, doesn't use up almost non-replacable resources and only takes up 2 armor slots, which are one of the biggest bottlenecks in this game for me.
With lots of luck, you can get an epic and with a bit of luck a good legendary.
Myself, I just haven't hit that luck yet:
Dark Prince + Swamp Shaman -> Spectral Captain
Infernal + Spectral -> Steam Wizard

tl;dr: you're only looking at it from the "fusion stones, followed by EP are the bottlenecks" p.o.v.
Thats what i'm trying to say for about some days. By the way...

The best combination i'm thinking about is notus regular (never got to 43, only ~70 mats) and leviathan, which i got 101. After unlocking the plus version, i will stock them until i know that cloudrange is fuseable.
4*water+4*air/spirit=
5* moontide
5* cloudrange?
4* blackfrost
3* spectrail
3* storm sorcer

Those seems to be high odds for an useful armor.
A better fusion efficient for epics?

[Tahimaka]

So I risked it and make another fusion. I fused

Wanderers Shroud + Boreas = Blazeborne Vanguard

[EljayK]

Thats what i'm trying to say for about some days. By the way...

The best combination i'm thinking about is notus regular (never got to 43, only ~70 mats) and leviathan, which i got 101. After unlocking the plus version, i will stock them until i know that cloudrange is fuseable.
4*water+4*air/spirit=
5* moontide
5* cloudrange?
4* blackfrost
3* spectrail
3* storm sorcer

Those seems to be high odds for an useful armor.
A better fusion efficient for epics?

These are all really sensible. I used my notus regular with my phyrus regular and got ruby platemail. I also have the leviathan now. I'm hoping for a wind armor, or a spirit armor. (Should have kept faerie keeper). I think I'll wait for the next legendary and hope it's fire/water, maybe fuse into it.

[shukai84]

I just fused Levithan (level. 1) + Notus (level. 14) = Moontide Platemail (level. 10)

I AM SO HAPPY WITH THIS FUSION

Congrats!!! :)

[Sir.]

Sir., a reason to do try 3-star + 3-star fusions is that if the result is a failure, new materials is a lot easier to aquire and base crafting time is 2x 1 day compared to Summoning Stone up to 25 * 30 gems and 2x 3 days for 4-star...
I myself have 120 fusion stones in the bank and it's not really going down, a bunch of 50EP armors and fusion boost armors cluttering my armor slots, DP+ waiting for a guild fusion boost quest to max it and get rid of 4 stupid fusion boost armors, Roc+ too low level to apply 50EP armors without it being kind of a waste, Assasin+ still crafting and then needing lots of leveling before 50EP armors are of use.
In such a case IMNSHO fusing 3-star armors is a sensible thing to do: takes relatively little time, doesn't use up almost non-replacable resources and only takes up 2 armor slots, which are one of the biggest bottlenecks in this game for me.
With lots of luck, you can get an epic and with a bit of luck a good legendary.
Myself, I just haven't hit that luck yet:
Dark Prince + Swamp Shaman -> Spectral Captain
Infernal + Spectral -> Steam Wizard

tl;dr: you're only looking at it from the "fusion stones, followed by EP are the bottlenecks" p.o.v.

EP is a bottleneck, as are fusion stones. When you get to the stage where you get past the story armors (which imo are not quite worth maxing anyway) you'll definitely be short of them. Maxing an armor with an element matching to snakeskin takes 22-23 fs, if they don't match it takes 42-43. 9/15 element cominations contain either water or earth (or both), so 30 fs per week on average (22*0.6+42*0.4). This is from only maxing out epic boss armors. Unless you buy chests for enhancing, you won't get this many on a weekly basis from just 8 gold keys and bronze medal arena (which is max you can get without buying AE). Simple conclusion: you will get short of EP/fs in due time, unless you buy chests.

This being said, look at what you're giving up: 48 hours of armorsmith (don't underestimate this! this equals a LOT of ep too), 2x 90 ep and 50 ep from the fusion stone. You're most likely to end up with a ** armor, it already requires luck to get a **** non-plus, of which most are useless. Average at best. Very long shot at an epic, which you have to consider also takes a lot of time and mats to max. Costs are big, outcomes no more than marginal.

You give summoning stone as other option. I say that's just a ridiculous idea in any case. My other option is much simpler: don't fuse.

Fuse only when you have 2x **** that give outcomes that make the possibilities of something useful decent. It will never get better than decent, but at least with good outcomes.

Focus on your weekly EB + armors, this gives you some spare **** armors too. When a good opportunity arises use those lvl 35 reg versions to fuse. The EB + armors will keep you occupied in the meantime, not to mention other armors from gw or perhaps future events like with BKal+. This fusion enthusiasm is an utter waste, numbers don't lie.


Thats what i'm trying to say for about some days. By the way...

The best combination i'm thinking about is notus regular (never got to 43, only ~70 mats) and leviathan, which i got 101. After unlocking the plus version, i will stock them until i know that cloudrange is fuseable.
4*water+4*air/spirit=
5* moontide
5* cloudrange?
4* blackfrost
3* spectrail
3* storm sorcer

Those seems to be high odds for an useful armor.
A better fusion efficient for epics?

I think it's quite safe to say that cloudrange isn't fusable. It would have probably been confirmed already if it were. Water/fire + mono spirit I believe to be the best shot at an epic. There are no f/s outcomes, so it leaves you with only the epic's element combinations as possible outcomes.

[~Nate~]

How can I fuse a ruby plate male with no ancient dragons?

[Chalamala]

Greeting My K&D Brothers and Sisters!! Well I fused a Phyrus (lvl 31) + Eurus (lvl 26) and got a Blazeborne Vanguard (lvl 29)!!!! That's right, not only did I get a 5 Star Legendary but it already at lvl 29/99!!! I had to share!!!

Long Live Guild - "Flame Fighters"!!!! Level 20 and only getting stronger!!!!

Cheers to all,

WBB-CDF-ZMC Level 77
*No invites will be excepted under 1,000/1,000!

[Marco_]

Greeting My K&D Brothers and Sisters!! Well I fused a Phyrus (lvl 31) + Eurus (lvl 26) and got a Blazeborne Vanguard (lvl 29)!!!! That's right, not only did I get a 5 Star Legendary but it already at lvl 29/99!!! I had to share!!!

Yes, resulting armor being the average level of the source armors is a well known fact. :p

[Peaches]

Wanderer's Shroud + Assassin's Shroud = Blazeborne Vanguard :)

[Marco_]

EP is a bottleneck, as are fusion stones. When you get to the stage where you get past the story armors (which imo are not quite worth maxing anyway) you'll definitely be short of them. Maxing an armor with an element matching to snakeskin takes 22-23 fs, if they don't match it takes 42-43. 9/15 element cominations contain either water or earth (or both), so 30 fs per week on average (22*0.6+42*0.4). This is from only maxing out epic boss armors. Unless you buy chests for enhancing, you won't get this many on a weekly basis from just 8 gold keys and bronze medal arena (which is max you can get without buying AE). Simple conclusion: you will get short of EP/fs in due time, unless you buy chests.

This being said, look at what you're giving up: 48 hours of armorsmith (don't underestimate this! this equals a LOT of ep too), 2x 90 ep and 50 ep from the fusion stone. You're most likely to end up with a ** armor, it already requires luck to get a **** non-plus, of which most are useless. Average at best. Very long shot at an epic, which you have to consider also takes a lot of time and mats to max. Costs are big, outcomes no more than marginal.

You give summoning stone as other option. I say that's just a ridiculous idea in any case. My other option is much simpler: don't fuse.

Fuse only when you have 2x **** that give outcomes that make the possibilities of something useful decent. It will never get better than decent, but at least with good outcomes.

Focus on your weekly EB + armors, this gives you some spare **** armors too. When a good opportunity arises use those lvl 35 reg versions to fuse. The EB + armors will keep you occupied in the meantime, not to mention other armors from gw or perhaps future events like with BKal+. This fusion enthusiasm is an utter waste, numbers don't lie.


Nah, armory capacity and crafting capacity will always be bigger bottlenecks for me.
Armory hardly ever has more than 8 usable slots (just enough for 4x uncommon_lvl11) and often has to have armors applied sub-optimally to other armors when arena and epic boss again throw armor junk at it.
To play this game less sub-optimally, you'd probably need a guild that provides you with element bonusses while at the same time allowing you to not contribute gold and allowing you to have 4-5 smiths, so those stupid boss armors don't clogg up at least 1/3rd of your smithing capacity for about 5 1/2 days per boss and you can quickly enough level them far enough that fusion armors become efficent there.

All the junk armor from tournaments and epic boss plus boost armors from guild contributions and gold keys cover a large part of your percieved fusion stone gap.
IIRC I got both Swamp+ and Infernal+ maxed without using any fusion stones at all and the few fusion stones used on DP+ were only used when armory space allowed it and a guild quests demanded it.

Also: mindlessly grinding on enhancing the weekly boss armors is just dumb. Focus on what element combos you're lacking first. So unless I find or fuse a better alternative, Roc+ will get priority over Aegis of the Fallen non-plus and plus, since I already have DP+ and 2x LF+ for fire/spirit. That's about 6700 EP and lots of gold I can spend elsewhere; much more than a few silly 50 EP armors...
- I don't buy chests at all
- I think I might have used up about 30 fusion stones in total in 1 1/2 months, including the ones used for storyline quests and I still have 120 in stock that I can't use because of all the 50 EP and fusion boost armors clogging up my armory. :(
I doubt my fusion stones will drop below 100 before I'm working on leveling an Epic armor.
</off topic since I don't mention a single fusion result>

[~Nate~]

also how do you get a wanderers shroud

[Marco_]

also how do you get a wanderers shroud
Boss armor from about 1 1/2 months ago. If you weren't there to fight the Wandering Flame, then no way to get it any more.
@your Ruby Plate Mail question: you're confusing armors for elements. No dragon armors needed, just an armor with fire in it and a whole lot of luck when fusing. (well, more luck would be straight getting Blaze and not having to re-try with Ruby)

[~Nate~]

Boss armor from about 1 1/2 months ago. If you weren't there to fight the Wandering Flame, then no way to get it any more.
@your Ruby Plate Mail question: you're confusing armors for elements. No dragon armors needed, just an armor with fire in it and a whole lot of luck when fusing. (well, more luck would be straight getting Blaze and not having to re-try with Ruby)
What kind of fire armor?

[Sifu]

What kind of fire armor?

Any kind has a chance. You could fuse a basic fire with anything else and there is a chance, although extremely small, to get Ruby. It seems the higher the stars on an armor, the higher the chance to get a high quality result. However, "higher" is relative. It is still not an actual high chance to get something good.

[Dagobah]

EP is a bottleneck, as are fusion stones. When you get to the stage where you get past the story armors (which imo are not quite worth maxing anyway) you'll definitely be short of them. Maxing an armor with an element matching to snakeskin takes 22-23 fs, if they don't match it takes 42-43. 9/15 element cominations contain either water or earth (or both), so 30 fs per week on average (22*0.6+42*0.4). This is from only maxing out epic boss armors. Unless you buy chests for enhancing, you won't get this many on a weekly basis from just 8 gold keys and bronze medal arena (which is max you can get without buying AE). Simple conclusion: you will get short of EP/fs in due time, unless you buy chests.

This being said, look at what you're giving up: 48 hours of armorsmith (don't underestimate this! this equals a LOT of ep too), 2x 90 ep and 50 ep from the fusion stone. You're most likely to end up with a ** armor, it already requires luck to get a **** non-plus, of which most are useless. Average at best. Very long shot at an epic, which you have to consider also takes a lot of time and mats to max. Costs are big, outcomes no more than marginal.

You give summoning stone as other option. I say that's just a ridiculous idea in any case. My other option is much simpler: don't fuse.

Fuse only when you have 2x **** that give outcomes that make the possibilities of something useful decent. It will never get better than decent, but at least with good outcomes.

Focus on your weekly EB + armors, this gives you some spare **** armors too. When a good opportunity arises use those lvl 35 reg versions to fuse. The EB + armors will keep you occupied in the meantime, not to mention other armors from gw or perhaps future events like with BKal+. This fusion enthusiasm is an utter waste, numbers don't lie.



I think it's quite safe to say that cloudrange isn't fusable. It would have probably been confirmed already if it were. Water/fire + mono spirit I believe to be the best shot at an epic. There are no f/s outcomes, so it leaves you with only the epic's element combinations as possible outcomes.

SIR. Dot
Please make a leveling guide and put it in your siggy.
I will help us that have fused our desired legendaries and epics.
Kind regards,
Dagobah

[Tildor]

Just fused Assasins shroud and Leviathans Platemail and got Moontide Platemail! Happy happy :D

[~Nate~]

Aegis + levithuan = blaze born
Assassin + levithian = clayplate

[NickkyDC]

Assassin shroud + Leviathan = Blackfrost

[~Nate~]

Should I level up clay plate of fuse it?
I really want blaze born or moon tide (my guild mate go it)

[NickkyDC]

keep your clayplate. Its a good armor, and low chances of you getting a moontide.

[D3athShade]

for those who want moontide, just keep the leviathan armor and wait for a spirit mono to come out, or if you have eldricht robe, fuse with that, great chance you'll get moontide.

Greetz

[Nicco]

for those who want moontide, just keep the leviathan armor and wait for a spirit mono to come out, or if you have eldricht robe, fuse with that, great chance you'll get moontide.

Greetz

Assassins Shroud and Leviathan give you a pretty good shot at Blazeborne or Moontide, for the impatient....

[Biskmatar]

I got spec captain with assassin + leviathan. Sad times.

[Nicco]

I got spec captain with assassin + leviathan. Sad times.

The forum's can be a little misleading, I think people tend to report their successes more often than their failures...

[forcefed4door]

I also think the ease of fusing two legendary to get an epic is quite easy... why? Because the amount of material needed to upgrade all the 99 levels. It's gonna have some people spending gems and buying gold to upgrade. Gree is smart. It'll Prolly take me a few weeks to up grade legit. Not looking forward to it.

[Nick King2 0]

I must have the worst fusing rate ever.

Pyro + slime bane = infernal lord
Slime bane + fallen ageis = spectral capt.
Leviathan + assassin's = swamp shay.
Leviathan + fallen ageis = spectral capt.

[KOA]

So noone has had any luck fusing a cloudrange platemail?

[taylor1993]

Not yet koa. Some of us think it will become fusable when they release the next epic chance chest. Assuming cloudrange is even in the chest.

[GCSpyder]

I must have the worst fusing rate ever.

Pyro + slime bane = infernal lord
Slime bane + fallen ageis = spectral capt.
Leviathan + assassin's = swamp shay.
Leviathan + fallen ageis = spectral capt.

This is dismal.... :p

[Biskmatar]

@Nicco

Oh I know. I knew that there was a chance for spec captain or even SS. I just took a shot and lady luck was not on my side :/

It seems moontide is a lot harder to get from fusing than Blazeborne

[Thatzme]

This is dismal.... :p

I normally do a ritual dance and spray rice all over the floor and do 5 somersaults, 3 jumping jacks and 20 pushups followed by 3 warcries and twirling of tongue before I do any fusion. Gives me better chance I must say.

[Rafa]

Dark Prince + Swamp Shaman = Flamehunter's Garb

Flamehunter's Garb + Assassin's Shorud = Ruby

[GCSpyder]

I normally do a ritual dance and spray rice all over the floor and do 5 somersaults, 3 jumping jacks and 20 pushups followed by 3 warcries and twirling of tongue before I do any fusion. Gives me better chance I must say.

Don't forget the salt too... :p

[Sakino]

Spectral + infernal lord= swamp shaman
Swamp shaman+ roc god= stormrage

And here i think i should stop for today. But then...

After 2-3 basic airs + basic spirits= sky guardian!
So sky guardian + swamp shaman....=lightin lord. Ok. Stop for today.

Is the second time i'm fusing sky guardian by basics. What are the odds of fusing sky guardian by basics?

[shukai84]

I must have the worst fusing rate ever.

Pyro + slime bane = infernal lord
Slime bane + fallen ageis = spectral capt.
Leviathan + assassin's = swamp shay.
Leviathan + fallen ageis = spectral capt.

that's sux!

[EljayK]

Spectral + infernal lord= swamp shaman
Swamp shaman+ roc god= stormrage

And here i think i should stop for today. But then...

After 2-3 basic airs + basic spirits= sky guardian!
So sky guardian + swamp shaman....=lightin lord. Ok. Stop for today.

Is the second time i'm fusing sky guardian by basics. What are the odds of fusing sky guardian by basics?

given that I've used over 500 fusion stones in the last two months, and have never gotten one, I would say low. lol

[TealC]

Wow I wish I had as many fusion stones as you..

[anuarreyes]

Leviathan + assasins shroud = blackfrost was aiming for Clayplate but still a good armor since i like how it looks

[SmokeSR]

Did Rocfeather + Swamp Shaman = Guardian's Battlegear

[michwlvrins]

Did Rocfeather + Swamp Shaman = Guardian's Battlegear
Same here...... twice.

[DaveO]

I guess I'll share my failures as well.

Rocfeather+Infernal=Brawlers
Rocfeather+Infernal= Brawlers
Rocfeather+Infernal=Monks

[SmokeSR]

I guess I'll share my failures as well.

Rocfeather+Infernal=Brawlers
Rocfeather+Infernal= Brawlers
Rocfeather+Infernal=Monks

This combo is next on my to-fuse list. Maybe I won't bother and just use them for EP. Combustion would be nice though.

[DaveO]

This combo is next on my to-fuse list. Maybe I won't bother and just use them for EP. Combustion would be nice though.
Id like to think I'll get a favorable outcome sooner rather than later, but yea, I'm going for that result.

[Strayfe]

Aegis + levithuan = blaze born
Assassin + levithian = clayplate

Just did aegis of the fallen + leviathan = blackfrost piece of ****.

I have the worst luck....fused nothing usefull yet.

[Zyntree]

Not too far off, but to fuse effectively it's a bit more complicated. Fusing just any two (4*) can still be a major waste. To give an example: fusing Boreas with Assasin's Shroud. It gives these possible results:

***** Moontide
**** Clayplate
**** Blackfrost
**** Cloud King
*** Swamp
*** Spectral
*** Sky Guardian
*** Roc Feather

Among these are 1x (5*), 3x (4*), 4x (3*). Only two of the armors are useful (Moontide and Clayplate), the rest aren't really strong enough to be worth maxing. Even worse: half of the possibilities are (3*), which you can't even use for a future shot at fusing. Of course this is an extreme example, but a lot of the combinations with two dual element armors have similar outcomes and are for that reason still not worth it. My tip: don't be too eager too fuse. You can fuse yourself 5 sweet armors, but the true challenge is maxing them. Having a lot of strong but low level armors isn't of any use either. I only fuse when there's a reasonable outcome of something useful to me (w/f and mono spirit (4*) by example, only 5 outcomes with 2 of them being (5*)) and I am ready to max them. Hope that helps, as this is where a lot of people make mistakes and just throw their armor away.

Are there some armors that are no longer fusable? For example, I didn't see Bone Harvesters Garb, Barbarian Raiding Gear, Chitenous, among other armors in your list, but they have elements present in the fusing combo...

[-Solo-]

It doesn't matter if the elements are present. What matters is if the armor itself is fusable.

[Zyntree]

Oh, thx. Is there a list of fusable armors somewhere?

[-Solo-]

No, but this thread will give you an idea of what is.

[Dagobah]

Spectral + infernal lord= swamp shaman
Swamp shaman+ roc god= stormrage

And here i think i should stop for today. But then...

After 2-3 basic airs + basic spirits= sky guardian!
So sky guardian + swamp shaman....=lightin lord. Ok. Stop for today.

Is the second time i'm fusing sky guardian by basics. What are the odds of fusing sky guardian by basics?

Looks like I will use basic spirit and air fusion to level my BK+

Edit: No joy on the sky guardian with 24 basic spirit + basic air fusions. Getting 11 fusion stones from my 5 keys at my 1st level 43 boss kill was nice. My last 3 fusions were lvl 8 earth and fire to have lvl 8 molten shrouds to bring me over the top to 70. 6 fresh basics enhance into 1 lvl 8 basic; makes an impact on leveling kaleidoscope armour.

[Zyntree]

I've been compiling a list of fusables from **** combos, and I believe I've found most of them. I wanted to add them to the spreadsheet, but I am not allowed to add. Perhaps someone with admin on the spreadsheet could add. Also, please correct me for any missing or wrong info :)

Armor of the Infernal
Blackfrost Raiment
Blazeborn Vanguard
Boilerplate
Clayplate Mantle
Cloud King
Combustion
Flamehunter
Guardian Battlegear
Moontide Platemail
Roc Feather
Ruby Platemail
Sky Guardian
Spectral Captain
Storm Soccerer
Swamp Shaman

[shukai84]

i tink as of now, the only few amrs which are not fusable are :

aegis of drg
cloundrange..

[Marco_]

i tink as of now, the only few amrs which are not fusable are :

aegis of drg
cloundrange..
Also not:
- Dark Prince
- any recent epic boss armor (where the "recent" cutoff is somewhere in the 2-4 months ago range... Does anybody know the exact cutoff point?)
(and of course any plus armor ;) )

Maybe posting it as a nice organized list at the Data Sheet Administration topic might get it added to the spreadsheet...

[Sakino]

Also not:
- Dark Prince
- any recent epic boss armor (where the "recent" cutoff is somewhere in the 2-4 months ago range... Does anybody know the exact cutoff point?)
(and of course any plus armor ;) )

Maybe posting it as a nice organized list at the Data Sheet Administration topic might get it added to the spreadsheet... from drax the dragon rider armors are no more fuseable, but you can get till the hydromancer from chests.

[Cali-Boy916]

I was wondering if anyone tried fusing armor of eurus with wanderers shroud? Is this a possibility to get moontide or flameborne? I was thinking of fusing the two and see what i get. My shroud is 43 and eurus is 35

[EljayK]

I was wondering if anyone tried fusing armor of eurus with wanderers shroud? Is this a possibility to get moontide or flameborne? I was thinking of fusing the two and see what i get. My shroud is 43 and eurus is 35

I fused Eurus and Phyrus and got Ruby Platemail. So it's possible to get a mono-fire from your combination. Also I think someone mentioned getting Blazeborn from fusing, so deduction says yes, but I'm not 100%. Moontide, I don't think so. I think it takes one element from the right, and one element from the left. I don't think I've ever seen someone get an element combo that is identical to one that went in, where the other was completely ignored.

[Cali-Boy916]

I fused Eurus and Phyrus and got Ruby Platemail. So it's possible to get a mono-fire from your combination. Also I think someone mentioned getting Blazeborn from fusing, so deduction says yes, but I'm not 100%. Moontide, I don't think so. I think it takes one element from the right, and one element from the left. I don't think I've ever seen someone get an element combo that is identical to one that went in, where the other was completely ignored.

I just fused both and got blazeborne lv 43!!! Btw on my last post eurus was lv 42 not 35 i did a typo. But still finally i had some luck!!

[Reignstorm]

Sky guardian + swamp shaman = flowstone...

[NickkyDC]

Combined Chitinous Armor with Spectral Captain's Uniform and got Moontide Platemail.

I believe chit kid armor is a water armor making this combination impossible

[Sakino]

Combined Chitinous Armor with Spectral Captain's Uniform and got Moontide Platemail. next time remember the basic game rules. Oblivious troll is oblivious. Like oblivious fake.

[Maxxus]

Wanderers shroud with fairy dragon armor ( forget the name single element spirit) made blazebourne

[DaveO]

Next batch of infernal and rocfeather are in the works. I'll be providing more fail stories soon!

[Cind3r]

cloudrange will soon be confirmed :)

[Sakino]

Next october chests will have cloudrange. And three stars and above only.

[Cind3r]

Next october chests will have cloudrange. And three stars and above only.

how do you know this?

[WarChicken]

Next october chests will have cloudrange. And three stars and above only.

id love to know where he got this info as well

[taylor1993]

Next october chests will have cloudrange. And three stars and above only.

I'm interested to know as well?

[Moritsume]

Is it possible to fuse the Bigger 4? I'm finding that farming the mats even for the non-plus version is tedious, so if I have a shot at fusing to get a base version that I could upgrade and then go straight to crafting the + it would save me quite a bit of time.

If it is possible, would Basic Armors work? Or would I need to use something else?

[Thatzme]

Next october chests will have cloudrange. And three stars and above only.

We have soothsayers in this community!

[Knocknuts]

Gree should make a 300 gem costing chest where all you can get are maxed epic boss armors. Sorry for people who get steam wizard.

[deathexe]

Gree should make a 300 gem costing chest where all you can get are maxed epic boss armors. Sorry for people who get steam wizard.

Epic boss armors are supposed to be limited edition. At least those after dragon tamer.

[cryologic]

Gree most likely doesn't plan on changing things, they are banking on the gem purchase system. Already gotten $300 out of me, and I haven't gotten a usable item yet. 2400+ Gems and only 1 4 star non-plus item. 1 3star plus item. The rest was fodder

[DaveO]

Gree most likely doesn't plan on changing things, they are banking on the gem purchase system. Already gotten $300 out of me, and I haven't gotten a usable item yet. 2400+ Gems and only 1 4 star non-plus item. 1 3star plus item. The rest was fodder
At what point during those 2400+ Gems did it become clear that DPC is horrendous?

[Blehner]

Leviathan and Aegis of the Fallen got me Flamehunter's Garb.. Was hoping for Moontine or Blazeborn but happy with the results.

[Voony]

Fused Slimebane Battlegear and Aegis of the Fallen and got a Moontide Platemail

[Blehner]

Fused Slimebane Battlegear and Aegis of the Fallen and got a Moontide Platemail

Should of done that -_- I want moontide bad