Reinstate epic armor fusing.

[busteroaf]

That's exactly the point you are GUARANTEED that dragon after you spend the crystals. There is no promise you will recieve anything when opening the chest. Epic fusing could easily be reinstated with minimal consequences so long as they come up with a new formula for fusing them. Maybe a chance rate to fuse them which is lower than all other armors.

The point with the DragonVale vs KnD... it was impossible to breed the rainbow dragon. Much like trying to fuse Black Kal and White Kal. And yes, you COULD buy the dragon outright there, not here. So yes, there is a slight difference.

But what was happening in KnD, was that you could conceivably level a toon/armor high enough to kill the Epic Boss level 15, craft the armors, and then have an almost guaranteed chance at an Epic. That is a failed mechanic. Epic's are not meant to be had by all. Otherwise, they'd give the new Epic from Guild Wars to every tier. But they didn't. That means, reserved for only a handful. That is the way the rest should be.

As far as the chests go. Its like playing the lottery. If you haven't noticed, not everyone wins the 100 million jackpot. If you're lucky, you might match 2 or 3 numbers and get your money back. The luckier they are, the more you make. And technically, you ARE getting something guaranteed. Lots of EP feeder armors. But you want Guaranteed EPIC armors. Nice try. Not going to happen.

Or, ever buy a pack of baseball/football/basketball/WoW/Magic/Pokemon/YuGiOh/Whatever cards? You are guaranteed you'll get the listed number of cards/armors on the package/chest. That is it! You want the Gold Hologram Michael Jordan card? That is 1:2500. You want the Spectral Tiger Mount from WoW? That is like, 1:1000. You want the Jester's Mask card from the Ice Age expansion from Magic the Gathering?... you get the idea. Cards/Armors/whatevers aren't super rare because they are in every pack and everyone has them. You pay for a CHANCE every time you buy things like that.

[Wdraizen]

It is actually sad to see how the game has become. I've been an active player since the game started and have been collecting and upgrading armors. Ever since they've released EPPIC armors which I've attempted several times to fuse but fail I see low level players that has this armor and easily knock my knights off which is soo frustrating. They should've made the epic armors exclusive for chest and or guild war prizes. now it's very hard not to see someone with 2 or more armors killing my knights.

[Justx]

Hah, I'd say that more than a "handful" of people have them now though.
@Wdraizen
Yeah I agree, it's pretty disheartening to see a level 70 beat me because he has an arsenal full of epics.

[taylor1993]

The point with the DragonVale vs KnD... it was impossible to breed the rainbow dragon. Much like trying to fuse Black Kal and White Kal. And yes, you COULD buy the dragon outright there, not here. So yes, there is a slight difference.

But what was happening in KnD, was that you could conceivably level a toon/armor high enough to kill the Epic Boss level 15, craft the armors, and then have an almost guaranteed chance at an Epic. That is a failed mechanic. Epic's are not meant to be had by all. Otherwise, they'd give the new Epic from Guild Wars to every tier. But they didn't. That means, reserved for only a handful. That is the way the rest should be.

As far as the chests go. Its like playing the lottery. If you haven't noticed, not everyone wins the 100 million jackpot. If you're lucky, you might match 2 or 3 numbers and get your money back. The luckier they are, the more you make. And technically, you ARE getting something guaranteed. Lots of EP feeder armors. But you want Guaranteed EPIC armors. Nice try. Not going to happen.

Or, ever buy a pack of baseball/football/basketball/WoW/Magic/Pokemon/YuGiOh/Whatever cards? You are guaranteed you'll get the listed number of cards/armors on the package/chest. That is it! You want the Gold Hologram Michael Jordan card? That is 1:2500. You want the Spectral Tiger Mount from WoW? That is like, 1:1000. You want the Jester's Mask card from the Ice Age expansion from Magic the Gathering?... you get the idea. Cards/Armors/whatevers aren't super rare because they are in every pack and everyone has them. You pay for a CHANCE every time you buy things like that.

I completely agree with what your saying about epics being much too easy to fuse but none the less and I don't expect guaranteed epic armors. I think that would be pointless. I would buy every one. The point is all the games you listed above are pay to play. KnD at its core is a f2P game. Most of the things you used as examples are all p2p. I could trade for a gold hologram Michael Jordan card (ironically I have his rookie card ) my big thing is that it gives free players something to work for as an ultimate goal. The way they release epic armors was a mistake in the first place. They should have either been unfusable to begin with or very difficult. Since they have already released them as an obtainable Item I don't think it is right for them to just take it away. My personal opinion. I have already listed a simple solution for the problem I'm hoping they actually take a look at it and consider it.

[Rafa]

Ok here is my suggestion to easily fix low levels getting epics:

Make it so epics are only fusable if you fuse two legendaries '+' .

Low levels wont get it ever. If you wanna make it even harder make it so mono legendaries wont result in epics aswell.

[busteroaf]

I completely agree with what your saying about epics being much too easy to fuse but none the less and I don't expect guaranteed epic armors. I think that would be pointless. I would buy every one. The point is all the games you listed above are pay to play. KnD at its core is a f2P game. Most of the things you used as examples are all p2p. I could trade for a gold hologram Michael Jordan card (ironically I have his rookie card ) my big thing is that it gives free players something to work for as an ultimate goal. The way they release epic armors was a mistake in the first place. They should have either been unfusable to begin with or very difficult. Since they have already released them as an obtainable Item I don't think it is right for them to just take it away. My personal opinion. I have already listed a simple solution for the problem I'm hoping they actually take a look at it and consider it.

The idea of the buying card packs was to counter the "the chest is unfair with the low drop rate". I'm aware Magic, Pokemon, YuGiOh and all the like are p2p. But for those that want the best cards, you HAVE to spend more. You can buy the starter packs and never buy another card and play just fine, just like you can play this game as f2p, never spend a cent, and still play. You might not win too often, but you can still play.

[Edwinz]

Someone in my guild fused tectonic 2 days ago. I guess there's still a chance maybe just lower.

Tell ur guildmate to show some proof pals...

[-Solo-]

Must also be the guy who also abused the glitch on your team, right?

[taylor1993]

The idea of the buying card packs was to counter the "the chest is unfair with the low drop rate". I'm aware Magic, Pokemon, YuGiOh and all the like are p2p. But for those that want the best cards, you HAVE to spend more. You can buy the starter packs and never buy another card and play just fine, just like you can play this game as f2p, never spend a cent, and still play. You might not win too often, but you can still play.

I never said anything about the chest drops :P I have gotten all of my epics for chest. I just believe that it should not be the sole means of obtaining them.

[Stooboot]

Won't happen.

It will flood the game with epics and, more importantly, it will reduce their overall revenue.

The game is already flooded with them what about the ppl that dont have them now the only way to get the is 2 buy 50 to 70 chests because 11 or 22 sure doesn't work

Must also be the guy who also abused the glitch on your team, right?

Honestly how is forsaken still where there at? Obviously they spend alot but there needs to be some kind of punishment and it cant just be kicking 1 player off the team, half there players are unbeatable with those bonuses

[busteroaf]

I never said anything about the chest drops :P I have gotten all of my epics for chest. I just believe that it should not be the sole means of obtaining them.

You didn't mention chests. My original post was where the reference came from. Then you said my games listed were p2p. I tried to say consider the started pack as the f2p version. Boosters from there on out are like the chests. Maybe that was confusing for some.

And chests are not the only way to get epics. You can win a guild war, or place in the Top 10 and still get epics.

In what other games do they freely give out the top tier of whatever for free? You want the best/most rare cards in Magic and other tabletop games? You buy boosters, or you have to win tournaments. Want the best cards in Rage of Bahamut (f2p card game) ... win the guild wars there, or get lucky in their multitude of card packs. Sure, you can trade trade trade and sell sell sell over and over and save up bit by bit to outright buy one off the market, but in order for those to hit the market, you'd have to have gotten it from either an event or a card pack. And since KnD doesn't have trading, that doesn't apply. Either chest it out, or win an event. That keeps it to a small group, and retains the rarity of it.

[Justx]

"Free"? Lol.

Okay, let me dish out 2000$ so I can get gems and use them in the guild war so I can be #1 or top 10.

Sure it's "free", but it's anything but that; when the only way you can even get into the mid to low hundreds is through moderate gem spending. To get into the top 10 in which you also obtain the armor you have to do heavy gem spending in order to even compete, which is not free.

[busteroaf]

"Free"? Lol.

Okay, let me dish out 2000$ so I can get gems and use them in the guild war so I can be #1 or top 10.

Sure it's "free", but it's anything but that; when the only way you can even get into the mid to low hundreds is through moderate gem spending. To get into the top 10 in which you also obtain the armor you have to do heavy gem spending in order to even compete, which is not free.

You catch on quick. Its not free. They've essentially taken Epics off the free table. You want them back? Spend some money. Again, not every player deserves access to everything.

Any game that allows you to buy in-game currency to purchase any sort of refills is obviously not truly f2p. Well, it still can be, but don't expect to get the best stuff when you don't spend money. That is the nature of these games.

[Justx]

Well truth be told, I don't really care all that much. I'm more bummed than anything since I didn't get one epic from all the fusion crap from before/during Beast Brawl I.

And of course, any game that has in game things such as gems or diamonds or whatever is ostensibly f2p but it's more p2p than anything when you get down into it.

[SerKnight]

I think that if GREE were to reinstate this at all they would need to drastically reduce the outcome % for epics.