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    No, sorry. It was deleted and is gone. It was entitled "I owe montebore of SAS an apology" or something like that. At the time, he was trying to make it sound like the datasniffing gave people the ability to steal your gold... but the only real way to do that is through UDID hacking, like was done to Baddad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistress Nikita View Post
    No, sorry. It was deleted and is gone. It was entitled "I owe montebore of SAS an apology" or something like that. At the time, he was trying to make it sound like the datasniffing gave people the ability to steal your gold... but the only real way to do that is through UDID hacking, like was done to Baddad.
    his udid was never hacked, it was given voluntarily. i also believe no gold was spent, and of course claiming gold was stolen is laughable. but i guess you would have to ask ian.

    how were your fish sticks the other night? are you treating yourself to canned tuna, mac & cheese, and tater tots with dead sea salt drizzled in white truffle oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by montecore View Post
    his udid was never hacked, it was given voluntarily. i also believe no gold was spent, and of course claiming gold was stolen is laughable. but i guess you would have to ask ian.

    how were your fish sticks the other night? are you treating yourself to canned tuna, mac & cheese, and tater tots with dead sea salt drizzled in white truffle oil?
    I'm sure he willingly handed over his UDID with full knowledge of the possible repercussions.

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    So after Baddad left SAS for FC, you felt it was okay to mess wish his account afterwards because he "voluntarily" gave his UDID to you? There's a whole locked thread with tons of info on it... all one has to do is search Baddad's name. Here is what Baddad had to say in that thread:

    "I am Baddad and this information is true.

    During the Chinese Pagoda event I noticed all but 5 mil. Disappear from my bank. I thought it to be a Gree glitch and was going to report it. Later that day I received a communication from someone who I consider a person of ethics and character asking if my account had been hacked. I've only been playing CC since Jan. and would have never thought this possible let alone an option for one player to do to another for any reason. This person provided me many screen shots some depicted on this site as they were provided to me. I then sent a ticket to Gree for investigation and am also consulting with Apple and my local law enforcement as this type of malicious activity goes beyond the what is lawful on a public forum where private information and worse funds were compromised unlawfully.

    I play the game for fun and have enjoyed making many friends along the way. My only hope is that others will not be treated as I have been by those whom I befriended in the game. I would like to thank #1 the person who first brought this to light and secondly all those who have spread the message of this horrible wrong so that others can be warned and those who are responsible for this will be punished, lastly for those who are considering to cheat may have second thoughts.

    I will continue to play this game with honor and integrity and respect those in game friend or foe with respect."

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    Back to the original topic. While I'm not defending data-sniffing, I just don't see how it is a real advantage. I can tell if someone had purchased a lot of gold by their inventory and buildings, and by what syndicate they're in. Having a datasniffer tell me someone has gold is useless to me. How skill points are allocated? Who gives a turd.

    Where the datasniffing is helpfull is knowing a players start date and how much money their earned to date and see if its even humanly possible for them to have collected what the data shows. This is useful in catching glitchers and hacks inorder to keep them out of your syndicate... or, in the case of SAS... recruit them harder.

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    I love that the proponents of this are saying "ohh its not a big deal, it makes no difference to a players experience"

    Bull.. if it made no difference it wouldn't be utilized. It wouldn't have been made.. It gives the user more info about a player than GREE intended & whether you are too stubborn to acknowledge it or not, it gives the user an advantage over every other non-data sniffing player.

    Sure, stat point allocation is a moot detail of the big picture.. Except if GREE wanted me to see how a player has allocated their stat pts when visiting a rivals city, they would have coded the game that way from the start. Whether you like it or not, that is an advantage, period..

    Not to mention, this App or software (whatever you want to call it) had to be specifically designed for Crime City.. So much has been said to prove that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (BF) Tuna View Post
    I love that the proponents of this are saying "ohh its not a big deal, it makes no difference to a players experience"

    Bull.. if it made no difference it wouldn't be utilized. It wouldn't have been made.. It gives the user more info about a player than GREE intended & whether you are too stubborn to acknowledge it or not, it gives the user an advantage over every other non-data sniffing player.

    Sure, stat point allocation is a moot detail of the big picture.. Except if GREE wanted me to see how a player has allocated their stat pts when visiting a rivals city, they would have coded the game that way from the start. Whether you like it or not, that is an advantage, period..

    Not to mention, this App or software (whatever you want to call it) had to be specifically designed for Crime City.. So much has been said to prove that.
    You have no idea what you're talking about. You haven't even read this thread.
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    Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...
    Still mad at Bostick.

    I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipstik View Post
    Anyway, I give up. I'm not going to argue about it any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipstik View Post
    You have no idea what you're talking about. You haven't even read this thread.
    please, tell me more about what I have and haven't done today. It would help to further convolute this thread

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    For one, third party software Altering game experience would involve code injection hacking via mobile substrate or botting on bluestacks, not packet sniffing software that never directly communicates with the crime city app. Second of all, I would be willing to bet that even if someone gave the @op this data, they would have no idea how to interpret it to any competitive advantage. You are smarter than me, therefore you must be a hacker. Dude, you are a moron. Third of all, it is no different than your current syndicate collecting data from battles and putting them into ur nifty little spreadsheet. At least have a minor understanding of the things your imagination envisions before you speak. I feel as if your iq were any lower you would be a plant... And not even a cool one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (BF) Tuna View Post
    please, tell me more about what I have and haven't done today. It would help to further convolute this thread
    Too easy. Not touching this one.
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    Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...
    Still mad at Bostick.

    I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

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    Altering- change or cause to change in character or composition, typically in a comparatively small but significant way.

    The packets that are being sent to players using this data-sniffing technique is altering the game experience (granted it is mostly the high-end Syndicates where it is most common. And, practically impossible to detect given that this data is being sent to everyone- whether they utilize it or not)

    To your second point- you are right. Which is exactly why it is an advantage to those that can dicypher it(who by definition are hackers- in a looser sense of the word)

    at this point you resort to name-calling and your third point is not worth addressing due to the ignorance you're expressing at that point.

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    Dip, curious what's the bet?

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    Why do you keep repeating yourself. Point still not sinking in? Maybe it isnt correct.

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    The packets that are being sent to players using this data-sniffing technique is altering the game experience (granted it is mostly the high-end Syndicates where it is most common
    For the thousandth time: This is not happening anymore, and has not been for some time. That a heap of people from the "high-end Syndicates where it is most common" have told you this seems not to have dented your faith in your own knowledge about what's going on.

    And again, just because you say it's altering it doesn't actually prove that it is. To date not a single person has said how this is actually occurring (as opposed to wild hypothesising about how it might - even though these effects are all identical to the effects of standard procedures for the majority of syndicates).

    who by definition are hackers- in a looser sense of the word
    A looser sense of the word is, by definition, not by definition.
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