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    which part of that message is unclear?

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    gonna go with PEBKAC here

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    Exclamation Please please please help me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    But why my friend can use video offers? i cant use video offer he can use it all the time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighLifex774 View Post
    But why my friend can use video offers? i cant use video offer he can use it all the time...
    There is a limited number of video offers, and it isn't available all the time. This isn't the right thread to post on.
    Knights and Dragons iOS.
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    Main knight's named Aiden.

    My friend's list is currently full, i won't be able to accept new players at the moment.

    Cheers, my fellow knights!

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    Exclamation Please please please help me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by deathexe View Post
    There is a limited number of video offers, and it isn't available all the time. This isn't the right thread to post on.
    Where i can see the limit? my friend use it 4 days without any problem and use it at this moment too ... he got 2500 GEMS !!!!!!!!!! GUYS please -..-

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighLifex774 View Post
    Where i can see the limit? my friend use it 4 days without any problem and use it at this moment too ... he got 2500 GEMS !!!!!!!!!! GUYS please -..-
    Please stop flooding this thread with a question clearly not meant for this thread.
    Knights and Dragons iOS.
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    Main knight's named Aiden.

    My friend's list is currently full, i won't be able to accept new players at the moment.

    Cheers, my fellow knights!

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    Quote Originally Posted by deathexe View Post
    Please stop flooding this thread with a question clearly not meant for this thread.
    show me the right thread !

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighLifex774 View Post
    show me the right thread !
    The thread that starts with 'feel free to ask...' We can't help you much anyways, since this isn't something we can control. You just have to try multiple times. I've noticed that you've been spamming the add me sub forum and guild recruitment sub forum too. Please don't do that.
    Knights and Dragons iOS.
    Guild: Rainbow Room
    Main knight's named Aiden.

    My friend's list is currently full, i won't be able to accept new players at the moment.

    Cheers, my fellow knights!

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    After much time and gold spent, I have updated the Data Sheet's 'Armor Leveling' tab with 99.5% accurate leveling for 1-50 and 1-70 armors. I used the information from 5 level 70 armors that I kept detailed track of, then verified it with my Eurus+. With Eurus+, from 51-70 I enhanced using only 3 slots - usually 2 snakes and a 50EP fusion, or (2) 50EP fusions and a Basic or Uncommon with just the right additive of levels to give me the 98 to 114 points for each level to make sure it was as close to accurate +/- 1 or 2 EP. As a suggestion, you should always add the 1 or 2 EP if you want to absolutely make sure it will level up!

    I'm still working on 1-30. There are a few minor corrections to the actual EP amounts needed on some levels (only need 20EP, not 21 to hit level 6; 40EP for level 10, not 41; etc). I learned the trick on how to accurately see the exact EP needed - takes a steady eye to watch the screen as the bar fills up. I think I will use that Reflector program so I can record video from the iphone screen, so I can play it frame by frame and get even more accurate! I'm OCD like that.

    So check out the Data Sheet for the details.

    Also, fun fact... Everyone asks about using Basic Armor to level since it's the cheapest and most EP when it comes to time. Gold on the other hand is the problem. Here is what you'll need to level a 70 armor using only Basic Armor with matching element(s):

    Basic Armors needed: 846
    Enhancements from 1-70: 212 (211x4 and 1x2)

    Cost for Basic Armor crafting: 846 x 300 = 253,800
    Cost for 212 Enhancements: 9,310,600
    Total Cost: 9,564,400

    Detailed breakdown for each enhancement:

    EP Cost Level
    24 600 3
    24 1000 4
    24 1200 5
    24 1400 6
    24 1600 7
    24 1800 8
    24 2000 9
    24 2400 10
    24 2800 10
    24 2800 11
    24 3200 11
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    24 4000 13
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    24 5200 16
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    24 6000 19
    24 6400 19
    24 6400 20
    24 6800 20
    24 6800 21
    24 7200 21
    24 7200 21
    24 7200 22
    24 7600 22
    24 7600 23
    24 8000 23
    24 8000 23
    24 8000 24
    24 9000 24
    24 9000 25
    24 10000 25
    24 10000 25
    24 10000 26
    24 11000 26
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    12 50000 70

    More fun facts to come...
    Last edited by Jello; 07-29-2013 at 04:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jello View Post
    (only need 20EP, not 21 to hit level 6;
    Hmm, I already knew that: 4 unmatched commons to get an uncommon to level 6, 5 matched commons and 3 unmatched commons to get an uncomon to level 11.


    *snip*
    So, "only commons" is about 3x as expensive as the optimal commons/uncommons/snakeskin/fusion solution?
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    9 million, oh my god lol

    I hope Wise One gets GREE to donate some gold to your for your contribution to the community

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    Leveling Fun Fact #2, 3, and 4:

    To level a 70 armor from 1 to 35 to unlock + version of armor (~1664 EP):

    Using Basic Armor:

    Basic Armors needed: 280
    Enhancements from 1-35: 70

    Total Materials Needed: 280 x 3 Shards = 840 Shards
    Cost for Basic Armor crafting: 280 x 300 = 84,000 gold
    Cost for 70 Enhancements: 642,800 gold
    Total Cost: 726,800 gold
    Total Time to Craft: 1 Basic Armor every 5 min, so 23.3 hours

    Using Uncommon/Mono Armor:

    Uncommon Armors needed: 167
    Enhancements from 1-35: 42

    Total Materials Needed: 167 x 4 = 668 mats
    Cost for Uncommon Armor crafting: 167 x 500 = 83,500 gold
    Cost for 42 Enhancements: 377,200 gold
    Total Cost: 460,900 gold
    Total Time to Craft: 1 Uncommon Armor every 30 min, so 83.5 hours

    Using Snakeskin Armor:

    Snakeskin Armors needed: 70
    Enhancements from 1-35: 18 (17x4 and 1x2)

    Total Materials Needed: 70 x 8 = 560 Snakeskin Leather
    Cost for Snakeskin Armor crafting: 70 x 3,000 = 210,000 gold
    Cost for 18 Enhancements: 154,200 gold
    Total Cost: 364,200 gold
    Total Time to Craft: 1 Snakeskin Armor every 2 hours, so 140 hours

    NOTE: The above enhancements assume matching elements (Basics worth 6, Uncommon worth 10, and Snake worth 24) and time is having only 1 Armorsmith.
    Last edited by Jello; 07-29-2013 at 04:39 AM.

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    So if we set the lowest at 100% it's (using the rounded numbers from the end, since I'm lazy right now):

    time:
    * common 100%
    * uncommon ~358%
    * snakeskin ~601%

    gold:
    * snakeskin 100%
    * uncommon ~126%
    * common ~199%

    I guess it might be smart to switch my Swamp+ level 20 back to commons from the uncommon level 1 or 6 I'm using right now to level it, since the time factor is way more important to me at the moment.
    edit: if you start from zero shards, it does mean you'll have to do about 1 farm run per armorsmith per 5 minutes just to keep up with shard demand...
    Last edited by Marco_; 07-21-2013 at 02:02 AM.
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    Very nice!!

    By my calculations mono is cheaper than snakeskin until cost per slot gets to 1300 (for matching elements). Why don't you add a section for "using mono and then switching to snakeskin"?
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    I have updated the Data Sheet with the level 1-30 exact numbers. It is still 194 to go from 1-30, but some of the EP in the middle were off. I confirmed the numbers twice on a Basic Earth Armor and a Wing Warrior Armor.

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