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    Fusing level 1s and then using the commons/uncommons to level the result is less risky and probably not even more expensive...
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    Well I thought I might save some gold actually or atleast have a use for all my farmed shards (common materials), but haven't really done the math to be honest.

    From what I have gathered: base + base = rare dual armor (atleast for some combinations).

    15 base + 15 base = 15(?) rare dual -> Unlocks + version and you still have a decent armor (and a good one to use for more fusing). 25000+(3900+600+1200?+1800?) ~ 32500g

    Unlocking + by enhancing requires getting the armor and enhancing with quite a few uncommon armors. Not sure how much it costs to level a rare to lvl15 this way, but it sure takes a lot more uncommon materials.

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    I've looked it up.
    lvl30 armor to 15 = 71 EP
    lvl50 armor to 15 = 291 EP

    I very much doubt 71 + 71 -> 291 will happen.

    I combined a level 13 2-star with a level 1 uncommon, so:
    lvl30 armor to level 1 = 0 EP
    lvl50 armor to level 13 = 236 EP
    result: 0 + 236 -> 86 EP (Snakeskin at level 7)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco_ View Post
    I've looked it up.
    lvl30 armor to 15 = 71 EP
    lvl50 armor to 15 = 291 EP

    I very much doubt 71 + 71 -> 291 will happen.

    I combined a level 13 2-star with a level 1 uncommon, so:
    lvl30 armor to level 1 = 0 EP
    lvl50 armor to level 13 = 236 EP
    result: 0 + 236 -> 86 EP (Snakeskin at level 7)
    When you combine two armors the resulting armor's level will be the average between the two. In your case a level 13 armors with a level 1 armor would result in a level 7 armor. So two level 15 armors will result in another level 15 armor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deathexe View Post
    When you combine two armors the resulting armor's level will be the average between the two. In your case a level 13 armors with a level 1 armor would result in a level 7 armor. So two level 15 armors will result in another level 15 armor.
    That is one heck of a troll system...
    So for the few fusions with high probability and where max level of the destination armor is higher than the max level of the source armors, it's highly beneficial to max out the source armors first if you want to max that new armor. ( for max30 x2 -> max50@30 that's 2x 194 EP -> 780 EP == 392 EP profit. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco_ View Post
    That is one heck of a troll system...
    So for the few fusions with high probability and where max level of the destination armor is higher than the max level of the source armors, it's highly beneficial to max out the source armors first if you want to max that new armor. ( for max30 x2 -> max50@30 that's 2x 194 EP -> 780 EP == 392 EP profit. )
    It doesn't really benefit much when you're fusing for 70 armors though, and even in the case of fusing level 50 armors, there wouldn't even be a need to get the armor any higher than level 15 anyways. Furthermore there are no gauranteed fusing results too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deathexe View Post
    It doesn't really benefit much when you're fusing for 70 armors though, and even in the case of fusing level 50 armors, there wouldn't even be a need to get the armor any higher than level 15 anyways. Furthermore there are no gauranteed fusing results too.
    Yeah, it just just bugs me that the programmers picked that really odd way to handle fusion and levels, the general optimal strategy seems to be to fuse at level 1, "except in a few very niche cases"...
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    okay so here's the fusions I went through. barbarian raiding gear lv. 1+ glacier armor lv. 1 =fire prince spirt and fire. rageborn lv. 26+aa= wavecharmer. is there anything I can fuse with vinewood carcapace+, or storm soccerer, lightning lord or river mantle?

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    people are still fusing armors to wear? wow. what a waste of stones and gold.

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    I look at fusing as a slightly better version of a chance chest... Chances are you're bound to get crap and as long as you're using junk gear what's it matter you're not going to use your fusion stones for anything else. So on the off chance you do get something good its not like much has been invested... Mainly the 25k gold which is a drop in a bucket...I just find it sad that you put so little in a fusion for a chance to get something new and for DPCs you have o either farm the crap out of the video offer gems or pay your ass off to get to have the same if not a worst chance of doing the same thing...both overall are a ripoff but fusion is by far superior to chance chests as long as you understand how to manipulate your odds. Which there isn't many ways to do so...just make sure then gear you want is made up of the combination of your two gears you want to fuse... I always like to play "what if" with my fusions.

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    Fusion stones = 50ep
    IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by KayOrzz View Post
    Fusion stones = 50ep
    IMHO
    Yup. I need a steady source of 50EP armors for enhancing my existing Legendaries far more than I need random crappy armors.

    Whenever I see someone in the Arena wearing one of those non-craftable armors I'm pretty sure of an easy win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman View Post
    I have jian, pyro, jackalope, flame summoner, wanderer, and mantle of the beast all uncrafted, along with ruby plate mail and spectral captains as *** & **** star armors to fuse. What combinations should I try for blackfrost, guardians battlegear, or infernal lord/tempered battlegear? Also which is better infernal lord+ or tempered battlegear (not plus)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman View Post
    Did anyone see this?^^
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    So long as your armors have 1 element each for what you want to fuse, you'll have a chance at getting it. Ie: jian's and mantle could get you the earth/fire or water/spirit combos that you want, but it's completely random.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paganizer View Post
    Well I thought I might save some gold actually or atleast have a use for all my farmed shards (common materials), but haven't really done the math to be honest.

    From what I have gathered: base + base = rare dual armor (atleast for some combinations).

    15 base + 15 base = 15(?) rare dual -> Unlocks + version and you still have a decent armor (and a good one to use for more fusing). 25000+(3900+600+1200?+1800?) ~ 32500g

    Unlocking + by enhancing requires getting the armor and enhancing with quite a few uncommon armors. Not sure how much it costs to level a rare to lvl15 this way, but it sure takes a lot more uncommon materials.
    Well I did this to get my last 2 "big" armors and it worked nicely (got the right ones straight away). I had to do 1 enhance afterwards though to get the + opened.

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