The Killshot Challenge

[mxz]

so anytime a troll starts lobbing accusations, we should take what they say as if it were the word of god?

An accusation that was repeatedly brought up in private that turned out to be true, was it not?

Look, all anyone's looking for is for Killshot to own up to his words. I don't blame any one of you for trying to protect your syndicate-mate that was accused. Heck, I might have done the same if someone accused Ram2 of cheating. But I would have looked into it before proclaiming I didn't have a cheater in my syndicate and staking my game on it. It doesn't matter to me if he quits or not. I'll float on, anyway.

Integrity, it's the only thing you can't buy, steal, be given, take or give to someone. Whether Killshot has it or not, only he can show.

[AFed]

An accusation that was repeatedly brought up in private that turned out to be true, was it not?

This is correct.

[mxz]

This is correct.

I can understand disliking the way it eventually was brought up - but it is incorrect to say SAS leadership didn't have the information presented from multiple people long before it eventually came up in the forum. SAS had their chance to handle it privately and refused to do so.

There's a saying I'm particularly fond of: God will judge our enemies, we'll arrange the meeting. It was unfortunate that SAS leadership kicked us out of the private meetings.

[montecore]

An accusation that was repeatedly brought up in private that turned out to be true, was it not?

Look, all anyone's looking for is for Killshot to own up to his words. I don't blame any one of you for trying to protect your syndicate-mate that was accused. Heck, I might have done the same if someone accused Ram2 of cheating. But I would have looked into it before proclaiming I didn't have a cheater in my syndicate and staking my game on it. It doesn't matter to me if he quits or not. I'll float on, anyway.

Integrity, it's the only thing you can't buy, steal, be given, take or give to someone. Whether Killshot has it or not, only he can show.

while the player in question is no longer in sas, i do not think he cheated, hacked, or glitched.

[MattThomas08]

An accusation that was repeatedly brought up in private that turned out to be true, was it not?

Look, all anyone's looking for is for Killshot to own up to his words. I don't blame any one of you for trying to protect your syndicate-mate that was accused. Heck, I might have done the same if someone accused Ram2 of cheating. But I would have looked into it before proclaiming I didn't have a cheater in my syndicate and staking my game on it. It doesn't matter to me if he quits or not. I'll float on, anyway.

Integrity, it's the only thing you can't buy, steal, be given, take or give to someone. Whether Killshot has it or not, only he can show.

1. It has not turned out to be true. Gree has looked into the player before and nothing came out of it. The suspicions were enough to result in the player being separated from SAS until the proof is beyond question one way or another.
2. What if somebody proclaimed that all of HTC was cheating, what would your response be?
3. You have no integrity on which to stand. You've continually sought to sway the public forum on a matter, without specific claims, instead of handling it in private and providing specific claims because you're a child in a candy store crying for attention.
4. He's gone. He provided almost no value to us in Midtown. We are a clean syndicate that operates within the confines of the game and does so successfully.
5. Killshot is a respectable player and did not say he would quit the game. He asked for specifics, was provided those in private, and followed up on them.

Why is this still a conversation? It has no relevance anymore. Oh that's right, it's because yore a child looking for attention.

[montecore]

An accusation that was repeatedly brought up in private that turned out to be true, was it not?

Look, all anyone's looking for is for Killshot to own up to his words. I don't blame any one of you for trying to protect your syndicate-mate that was accused. Heck, I might have done the same if someone accused Ram2 of cheating. But I would have looked into it before proclaiming I didn't have a cheater in my syndicate and staking my game on it. It doesn't matter to me if he quits or not. I'll float on, anyway.

Integrity, it's the only thing you can't buy, steal, be given, take or give to someone. Whether Killshot has it or not, only he can show.

where did he say he would leave the game? you kind of covered that part of the post up with your mad mspaint skills. or are you so dense that you think every challenge should have identical consequences?

[Killshot-CC]

This is correct.

Actually, we don't know it to be true. We only have our suspicions until GREE takes action which they have not done.

You should have more to say AFed. Did mxz ever once have such a conversation in private with me, or was it only you who did? Did I immediately follow up and act on your pm? And did your pm to me only take place after mxz started lobbing grenades that he was never able to substantiate?

[Killshot-CC]

mxz, since you miss me so much, I thought I'd give you a reminder of our brief time together.



See you soon, cupcake.

[MattThomas08]

where did he say he would leave the game? you kind of covered that part of the post up with your mad mspaint skills. or are you so dense that you think every challenge should have identical consequences?

In honor of the Killshot challenge, I'd like to start my own challenge. If anybody can prove the world is flat, I will drive to work tomorrow. If they can't, it's probably safe to assume I will quit the game.

[AFed]

while the player in question is no longer in sas, i do not think he cheated, hacked, or glitched.

Date was sent on 2/11. Still believe that?

[Killshot-CC]

Date was sent on 2/11. Still believe that?

Sure I believe it. Why'd you cover the top? You certainly didn't send me that message on 2/11. If Vlad didn't believe you, and frankly still doesn't believe you, what's that have to do with me?

I'm losing a lot of respect for you AFed.

[montecore]

Date was sent on 2/11. Still believe that?

i never said the evidence wasnt very suspicious. early on he used cash for night club upgrades. all that stuff was only 80 days of income. i have a very specific reason that i believe him to be innocent that i wont share publicly on the forum. i also understand why it loojs suspicious and why some people think he cheated. gree is looking into it and have yet to ban him for cheating.

[AFed]

Actually, we don't know it to be true. We only have our suspicions until GREE takes action which they have not done.

You should have more to say AFed. Did mxz ever once have such a conversation in private with me, or was it only you who did? Did I immediately follow up and act on your pm? And did your pm to me only take place after mxz started lobbing grenades that he was never able to substantiate?

In fairness, grenades were lobbed from SAS too, particularly from your leader. Heck this thread was a lobbed grenade begging for a call out.

In PM you were definitely fine and got the issue resolved...nothing wrong there. I also don't think I've ever called you out personally on the forum. But when the SAS leader had repeatedly dismissed PMs from both HTC and FC (if I remember correctly), it is certainly reasonable to be frustrated, as mxz was.

[AFed]

Sure I believe it. Why'd you cover the top? You certainly didn't send me that message on 2/11. If Vlad didn't believe you, and frankly still doesn't believe you, what's that have to do with me?

I'm losing a lot of respect for you AFed.

The reason the date isnt shown is the SS wouldn't fit the whole thing. Also had the players name in it and out of respect for forum rules, I didn't post that part. Care to retract your claim of date?



I never said that it was to you. That was to vlad. Sorry I didn't clarify there.

[Killshot-CC]

In fairness, grenades were lobbed from SAS too, particularly from your leader. Heck this thread was a lobbed grenade begging for a call out.

Some people still aren't convinced he's a cheater. It's a judgement call and I don't hold it against anyone who wanted to give a guy whose son is undergoing cancer treatment the benefit of the doubt, especially when the only authority to know the truth hadn't convicted him. You may think it's a flaw that Vlad was unwilling to turn his back on his friend based on pure supposition. I don't. I admire him for it. I also respect that he asked me to look into any allegations of cheating, including yours, even though he knew where it could have led. If you want to hold all 60 of us men and women accountable for Vlad's actions, then I'm sure we'll all be proud to stand by him.