World Domination Official Feedback Thread

[Morg]

It would be nice if the was once again a reason for small factions to participate like there was in the first one...BfB.

Turns out there was no use for a small faction to play in the last one. Even worse, it was quite a disappointment spending all that money and time and sacrificing units for what turned out to be a waste, since even though in both battles the prize tiers were changed at the very last second, only the BfB stuck to the originally advertised tiers. Many thinking the same typo/error/what have you happened again for BfG they participated thinking they had a chance for similar reward by participating and expending a large amount of their resources, only to be greatly disappointed at the end.

Now that we see the cut off is officially at 4k for the next battle, at least now we know ahead of time there is no reason to waste all that again or in the future....but then we were shown before the last battle for weeks that the cut off was 10k. Turned out to appear like a classic bate and switch tactic...and it worked.

Not all who support and participate in this game are able to properly contribute to a larger faction, so many form a faction as a few close friends, a family, or what have you...some who were rewarded in the BfB for their efforts were/felt cheated by the false advertisement leading up to the BfG battle.

Knowing where they placed the last 2 battles and seeing the new advertised cut off of 4k....there is no practical reason or incentive to participate in what seems to be the main direction this game has taken.

Edit...and before any members of larger factions pipe in saying how their llp's in their factions easily gain 1000's of wd's....that is very easy to do when you have a high level player knock out the head guy, otherwise you are stuck chipping away at their wall for 20-40 points a whack...or none at all waiting for the next battle. The poor matching system doesn't help any in this regard either.

[kevinnn]

Maybe new upgrades would be nice.
The time also has to be shortened.
Maybe a new event on the list? No box or boss but a new one

[stuartb]

i like the idea of changing the point system.maybe you should do itfor every event. part of tbe challenge would be reacting to a new situation instead of simply doing the exact same thing every event. one of the complaints about how real armies prepare for war is that they are always preparing to fight the last one again instead of the ne t one.

There ought to be a reward for winning an engagement with another faction, even if it is only nominal (e.g., 250 points). As it is currently structured, we do not have any need for a win/loss tally.

Can you guys come up with another use for concrete blocks, because building defensive walls is not all that useful for many factions. The wall just does not add a lot of value as it is currently structured

[Wufnu]

Well I think we've given them enough feedback. Now let's see how much we actually get considering we got NOTHING of what we asked for last time around.

[general Specific]

Two weeks later still trying. No response to any tickets. Missed the last event. I'm sure it cost my faction a top 1000 finish. Feel very much taken advantage of. I need to get this done or i want a refund of gold spent on the last event.

[Durt McGurt]

The Battle for Greenland otherwise known as Campers Reward



You did a lot of great things to improve our battle experience in Greenland,
thank you to the Gree team for their efforts.



My single largest and by far most important complaint is one that has
already been mentioned several times but I feel I must repeat it here
because of its importance. The awarding of WD points based on the level of
the attacker was a serious shortcoming of Greenland. I support making the
WD points a function of the level of the player you are attacking, you
should get more for attacking a level 150 player than a level 100 player
and indeed within a given level attacking a player with a higher defense
stat should yield higher WD points. However the amount of WD points given
should be solely based on the statistics of the person being attack and not
the attacker. Imagine my shock and chagrin when I found out I was receiving
200-250WD points for attacking someone yet some of my teammates were
receiving 350-400 points for attacking the same player. Level 200 players
are already penalized in the Boss event and now World Domination follows
suit. I am also a moderate gold player and yet now feel that my gold is
cheapened by this event. How would you feel if you were buying a loaf of
bread and the person in front of you put down $5 for that same loaf of bread
showed their drivers license and then sent on their way and you upon putting
down your $5 and showing your driver's license had half of your loaf of
bread taken away before being sent on your way. That is how I felt every
time I hit that 25 gold refresh button and attacked. To add injury to
insult you have made all the level 200 players prime targets for everyone
else. This WD point award strategy is a windfall for all those campers out
there who just sit at low levels building their strength. I am okay with
players using a camping strategy it is a viable way to play the game but I
do not believe my attack on the same player should be cheapen by giving the
camper more points for a successful attack. This inequity in WD point
distribution must be corrected before Egypt, make the WD points solely
dependent on the player being attacked and not the attacker. I for one will
not spend any gold refreshing in Egypt if my attack is worth less than a
lower level player.



The second complaint is that changes such as the one above must be
communicated prior to the start of the event so that Factions may understand
the rules and have time to adjust their strategy accordingly. This new
method of determining WD points was sprung upon us during the battle. I
don't mind some surprises in the battle but they must be such that Factions
can adjust to them. While some may argue that this new WD point
determination method was something that could be adjusted to I would counter
that this is true only to a point. The gold distributions amongst players
is not something that can be changed and thus if a team had loaded their
level 200 players with gold before Greenland they were stuck earning around
66 percent of the WD points they should have received. If the game allowed
for moving gold around between players during the battle then this could be
accounted for but it does not. So I ask you provide us the rules in advance
for cases where in game adjustments are not possible.



Thank you for your considerations in these matters

Could not say it any better, so I will quote. You have a lot of long time players upset with the scoring system. On our squad there is a large number of level 200 players, they have all discussed with me their thoughts on this. Please listen to your long time players who love playing the game.

[FYV]

A few ideas...

1) A deputy leader role(s) would be good. With same privileges as leader, except to designate other deputy leaders, or remove leader and deputies.
2) 3 days max WD event (5 days is putting people off participating, it's quite demoralising).
3) tracking donations I don't think is a good thing, it will disadvantage a lot of weaker players
4) quicker refresh on forum
5) expansion of forum, so posts don't drop off so early.
6) only leader (and deputies) able to delete posts on forum
7) fix iph display and faction ranking display.
8) more prize tiers
9) view of own wall remaining health during battle (would make battles more interesting)
10) opponent faction total WD points visible during battle (not only after)
11) ability to see individual player WD points scored by being attacked vs attacking
12) the PvP tournaments are great fun, but awards not so great and do not encourage participation.
13) a timer somewhere which shows time to 1 health recovery (eg for next hit) during WD events. And health gauge visible not only during battle.
14) no more last minute changes of event times/duration PLEASE?

Hope this helps.

Fi (FYV) x

[Kelly's Hero]

CJ-

I would love to see a high dollar/special building for a Top 250. Maybe a revenue generator or a unit producer?

The other (and more realistic possibility) is having gold awarded for top XXX factions. I think that would get more to spend gold to earn gold....

Thanks!

[procsyzarc]

CJ can you give us an update on if the level issue plenty of people have commented on and if it will be changed before next event. Many 200's will want to drop out of their teams before the event starts if it stays like Greenland since the losses are just too big while being worthless to their teams.

We need to know before the event starts since you can't leave once the event begins

[Wai]

The Battle for Greenland otherwise known as Campers Reward

My single largest and by far most important complaint is ...(edited)...
The awarding of WD points based on the level of
the attacker was a serious shortcoming of Greenland. I support making the
WD points a function of the level of the player you are attacking, you
should get more for attacking a level 150 player than a level 100 player...(edited)...

Augie, I respect your view but thinking it through, if it were based entirely on level then that will 'lock in' camping. It will not assist the L200's as you wish.

However the amount of WD points given should be solely based on the statistics of the person being attack and not the attacker. Imagine my shock and chagrin when I found out I was receiving
200-250WD points for attacking someone yet some of my teammates were
receiving 350-400 points for attacking the same player.

The WD points are based on statistical information. If you mean actual A&D then that stat determines a win or loss. You dont get WD points for losses. In fact they should be deducted for an unsuccessdful attack - not defense.

I for one will not spend any gold refreshing in Egypt if my attack is worth less than a
lower level player.

That defeats your own argument on levels doesn't it. Currently a lower level player takes a greater risk right through all battles and may stand to loose a greater percentage of units , has a lesser economy and perhaps less access to high grade units. If WD points were equal for beating them, then that would not encourage those lower level players and would not encourage factions to have them. If this is all inclusive then they have to be catered for I would have thought. HLPs have an advantage because they are usually stronger so a LLP will never score from them (due to stats). They ought to hold the advantage already of not giving away any points to a LLP. Conversely, There would be little or no encouragement for a HLP to attack a HLP. If the points were the same they may as well crush a LLP out of the game. I doubt that's the intent.

Your WD points are not necessarily worth less than a lower ranked player. If it were then it would be worked on levels and everyone would camp round L100.

I understand what you are trying to achieve but I think the results of what you suggest would not be as you expect. My own personal view (and we are entitled to 'agree to disagree' - something that encourages discussion, not crushes any alternate or unique thoughts; as happens here by the self appointed forum bullies) is that currently they have it pretty well balanced considering all the aspects of the game and the outcomes they are after. That's just my personal view and I reserve the right to change my mind subject to free input from people here.

I think we would be helped and this would be a far better place if we were able to express our views without being bullied to the point that good open thought discussions are quashed. I am not asking anyone to agree with me, these are just my current thoughts and I encourge contrary views with reasons so we can discuss them here.

[gunnydave]

CJ,

I'll start with

Negatives

A big one has to do with timing.
One of our members purchased a vault of gold to use for Greenland, he has yet to receive it!
Secondly those people involved in the bonus program 3 of our guys didn't get the bonus in time for Greenland.

Also, I am of the belief that the tiered system needs tweaking. Ie a top 1,2,3,25,50,100,250,500,1000, and 5000 would be nice. Because we spent so much gold and probably ended up in 30th place when we could have saved hundreds placed 90th and got the same prizes.

I currently think the prizes are alright, however like I said there is a large disparity between #26 and #100. This time around was almost 4 million points.

There is still visible info floating around about a top 42 faction. One of my goons sent in a ticket about it.

The big clamor around here is making it so only officers can declare war, we haven't had an issue with this, but I know others have.

The final complaint I have is with potential non working boosts; ie military boosts from units and faction military boosts not being visible.


Compliments

I am glad the team stat board worked this time. That was nice.

The premise of WD is great allowing for camaraderie and teamwork.

The prizes went out on the nose! Within hours of the events closing. Perfect!

We love that the points are not cumulative. A reset after each battle is preferred, otherwise PUN, ferr and SUper Faction would be 1,2 and 3 next event without even participating.

Strong work on actually asking for feedback

Suggestions

Also as a lot of people have said, it would be nice to be able to vet an applicant before allowing him entry. At least let us see his profile page and wall so that we know if he is qualified or a troll who spams that crap about free gold from being a dev.

Something else that would be nice would be some form of communication with the rival warring faction. I don't think a full open board would be a good idea, lots of cursing and unnecessary taunting, but maybe a board where one teams officers or leader could communicate with the other; maybe for a surrender or something.

Finally, what about some sort of VIP option for faction recruitment? Like for allies; pay 10-25 gold and get your factions name posted for an hour. Granted this would only be helpful if we had the ability to get applicant before allowing entry.

That's all I came up with. If you need me to expound upon any of these ideas feel free to give me a shout or a PM.

-J

Edit: For all faction leaders, you can assign vital game tasks to officers that do not require any programming changes. For instance some factions have a recruiting officer, a communications officer, a war chief, and a morale officer. Things that are done within the confines of the game and outside.

fantastic ideas

[krillin16]

How do I declare war? I can't find any way to.

[Daviethree]

Areas I notice need to be improved potentially developed:
A. The defence and attacks stats for faction members on the faction team list are lower than what they report they are. Why the difference.
B. can't see the team members income per hour through the faction team member listing. I have to visit their site as an ally to find this information.
C. Having donation information last 24hrs/last week/total would be fantastic
D. Refresh button on faction forum great idea
E. anyway for team leader to send a broadcast message to every team member to appear on their personal message boards

[Wai]

How do I declare war? I can't find any way to.

You need fat fingers, then just don't try and magically it just happens. Trouble is at this stage there is no one else on the battle field.

[Arizona]

How do I declare war? I can't find any way to.

Start an argument in the forum... bring back the good old days!