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    The Limited Time Quest event showed that:
    Hero Strength is definitely the way to go.
    After that a bit into Attack Skill and Stamina.
    Defense Skill is less useful since we're planning to attack more often than we are defending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezinap View Post
    The Limited Time Quest event showed that:
    Hero Strength is definitely the way to go.
    After that a bit into Attack Skill and Stamina.
    Defense Skill is less useful since we're planning to attack more often than we are defending.
    This.

    I'm level 120: Army Atk: 50 Army Def: 40 Stamina : 15 (I always keep it in multiples of 3 for Raiding) Hero Strength: 132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinazueli View Post
    Hero Strength : 200
    Stamina : 20
    Attack : 100
    Defense : 100

    For me, i pretty much balance my stats every time i level up. I always pick Hero Strength and distribute one to any attack or defense, but the latest limited quest, we need to increase our stamina as well.

    For example my not exact stats are as follows:

    Attack: 75 - you need to increase this as well to take care those big boys...
    Defense: 75 - & also this to defend those pesky hard core gems spender...
    Stamina: 7 - i need to increase this stamina to 12 ASAP for limited quest purposes or any future events...
    Hero Strength: 67 - for mission goal & limited quest purposes...
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    ^Your 67 Hero Strength is also a hinderance for PvE, if you're into that sorta thing. You have to continually hit enemies more than I would (~roughly double your HS).

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    Quote Originally Posted by asdfg12345 View Post
    just buy alot of gold and you will be unstoppable.
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    Lol. Thanks for the input, everyone. Can someone please answer me this specific question: how much (minimum) HS is required to reliably two shot the low monsters on the last maps? 100? 150?

    Thanks in advance.
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    question - why invest in stamina?

    I can see wanting 15-20 stamina for when you find that one player who is waaaay over vault and you want to hit him the max number of times asap (ignoring whether hammering a player for $200k is proper etiquette or not), but cant you just as easily just sit there for 15 min, hit him 5 more times, sit for 15 min, hit him 5 times, etc?

    when raiding, I think most players will hit a bldg 3 times to get the max gold out of it, but unless a player has 2 manors, and other high level bldgs uncollected, you're likely to hit him 3 times and then move on to searching the rivals list again.

    during the limited time boss/PvP questing, the wait time is actually the same (as long as a player is willing to sit in 15 min intervals)

    so, is it the convenience?

    I also dont see the value in adding pts to Att/Def, since it seems to me that a considerable amount would have to be added to make a difference once you get into the higher levels with dragon armies. I would think that many players, when they see a rival with stats similar to them, would simply move on to the next target unless there is something irrestible to hit... otherwise you could put yourself into an ongoing war with someone since his att is better than your def and vice versa... I dont see pts being added to Def being able to make up for that unless you invest a significant amount

    personally, I think it depends primarily on your playstyle and what makes you enjoy the game the most, although I understand powergaming, etc.

    but, it still seems to me that from a final/high level stat standpoint, that a significant (or all) investment in hero strength makes the most sense, since it will allow you to farm higher level maps and get the highest equipment, and more of it. if you can collect a significant number of 40/20 weapons and 20/40 armor, that ends up being a significant boost to your A/D, although I cant say whether its better or worse than investing pts into Att/Def since I dont know how the math works out for those bonues/adjustments

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    It has been said here and elsewhere, A/D skill points affect your win/loss more than you think, not less. If you disagree, you are simply wrong. Sorry.

    In caps for the visually impaired: A/D SKILL POINTS ARE PERCENTAGE BASED BOOSTS, NOT JUST ADDED FLAT TO YOUR SCORE. For the mathematically impaired, this means they matter MORE when you have dragons, not less.

    I only want just enough hero strength so that farming for high level weapons and the LTQ are not painful.

    As far as etiquette of attacking, if you have 200k+ overvault, I consider that rude if you cannot defend it.

    And as far as 20 stamina, you are correct as you could just wait for your stamina to recharge, which is what I do now, but there are two problems with this. First and foremost, if they are paying attention, they could quickly spend down. I want that gold. Second, sometimes I don't have time to wait the (10 stamina times 3 minutes = ) half hour with my device open. And even if I did, someone else may find MY gold and steal it, while I'm waiting. I repeat: I want that gold.
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    Now, could someone PLEASE answer my question?

    Restating: what minimum amount of hero strength is needed to reliably kill the weakest monsters on the latest maps in two hits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinazueli View Post
    Now, could someone PLEASE answer my question?

    Restating: what minimum amount of hero strength is needed to reliably kill the weakest monsters on the latest maps in two hits?
    My guess is like 180-200 HS. I have a 140 HS and it takes me 3 hits sometimes 4 on the weakest monster in the last map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud22 View Post
    My guess is like 180-200 HS. I have a 140 HS and it takes me 3 hits sometimes 4 on the weakest monster in the last map.
    Thank you very much. Sad face about the answer, but at least I got it. What's your hero w/a, out of curiosity?
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    With my 300HS it takes 2 hits to kill.

    It depends tho as some monsters with higher energy also takes my 2 hit kills.

    Some lowest energy monsters takes 3 hits to kill.

    If you havent notice different monsters have armor when killing ... Lets say a monster with 85 energy takes only around 216 damage and takes 3 hits to kill while a monster with 87 energy or so takes 235 damage with only 2 hits to kill.
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    So it sounds like its just going to suck to farm the good stuff then. Ok. I'll just have to accept that, I'm not spending that many points in HS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinazueli View Post
    Thank you very much. Sad face about the answer, but at least I got it. What's your hero w/a, out of curiosity?
    No prob, the Arachnid Insight 43/34 is the weapon my hero uses. But in my opinion you should invest all your points into HS you diffinatly get the the most benefit out of it especially if they keep doing the limited quest event. The hero attack and deffense make little diffence I regart spending 80 points on my hero attack and stamina at 20 is high enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit12 View Post
    For me, i pretty much balance my stats every time i level up. I always pick Hero Strength and distribute one to any attack or defense, but the latest limited quest, we need to increase our stamina as well.

    For example my not exact stats are as follows:

    Attack: 75 - you need to increase this as well to take care those big boys...
    Defense: 75 - & also this to defend those pesky hard core gems spender...
    Stamina: 7 - i need to increase this stamina to 12 ASAP for limited quest purposes or any future events...
    Hero Strength: 67 - for mission goal & limited quest purposes...

    Anyone can share about their skill stats like my sample above? i just wanna compare where do i need to improve my skill stats. i know i need to increase my HS & stamina for events, mission, & other stuff...
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