Truth, sorry you are not able to take what I said for what was actually said, but instead you made your own interpretation of it. I use apparently all the time, it's just a speech mannerism. If you took any of that as a " demerith" then that was on you. You could say the same thing about the current sup team then. This was only their second wd together, and according to that, each wd stands on its own, and has no relation to past ones, since members always change. So in other words, some random team won every wd for three years, got you. Is there some reason why you guys can just let the fact that pr1 won a wd be just what it is, a victory for them? Instead you seem to find ways to demerith even that, and make it just more personal attacks on people and specific teams. I'm sure that all makes you feel good and warm inside. Pr1 please ignore the negative trolls here. Again, congrats an the accomplishment, whether or not you consider yourself to be a new team or an old team.