Hoodslam Epic Boss event

[Big Earn]

Newbie is the only word I could use in that context that I can guarantee is approved by the powers that be. It's plastered right under his name on every post, after all.

LOL - well "Supreme Scholar" is plastered under your name... so, ya know... I'd question the accuracy of these labels.

[Dipstik]

That sounds a bit like trolling... Or at least insulting another user.

*munches popcorn*

[Big Earn]

That sounds a bit like trolling... Or at least insulting another user.

*munches popcorn*

No need to be insulted... just pointing out these "labels" might not hold a much weight as some put into them.

Many apologies if you are a published philosopher, scientist or even a Doctoral Candidate...etc It certainly would be a treat to run into someone like that on the Crime City forum.

[lewnbec]

Ok. Let's explore that. Certainly there are "gold paying players" who have just started or are relatively new.. some of these paying players will still have low stats (below 50 million) - this Epic Boss (Level 1) would still be impossible for them.
If I'm paying to play a game - and it's impossible. I'm going to stop paying.

Beyond that, I would venture to guess that there are more non-paying players than paying players - but they STILL generate revenue for Gree via ad views. If the shift here is to make it impossible for them to play events..and become stronger so they can compete even more... well that is going to drive people away... thus further diminishing revenue.

So this doesn't even make business sense.

I think everyone is forgetting that most new players that come into this game can't summon eb until they get to level 10. Unless they have bought high stat items with real cash, their stats are nowhere near strong enough to get halfway thru, let alone finish. My accounts range from 200 to 570 mil. All are struggling with this boss because of the huge stat increase. While they may be trying to make up for the last eb, non of this discussion would be happening if they hadn't royaly screwed up most every event since Gree took over the game from Funzio. Before then, all events were balanced for all players, there was no events catered to certain levels, the game was fun. Gree changing one event started a snowball effect where they had to change every other event to try and correct their past mistakes.

[Max Power]

I think everyone is forgetting that most new players that come into this game can't summon eb until they get to level 10. Unless they have bought high stat items with real cash, their stats are nowhere near strong enough to get halfway thru, let alone finish. My accounts range from 200 to 570 mil. All are struggling with this boss because of the huge stat increase. While they may be trying to make up for the last eb, non of this discussion would be happening if they hadn't royaly screwed up most every event since Gree took over the game from Funzio. Before then, all events were balanced for all players, there was no events catered to certain levels, the game was fun. Gree changing one event started a snowball effect where they had to change every other event to try and correct their past mistakes.

Fair point, but we must always remember, Gree doesn't design events for fun, they design them to generate revenue, and I have a feeling Gree is gathering far more revenue than Funzio ever did.

[jfgarzon]

Anyone on lvl 151 yet? How many hits does it take and what attack do you have?

[Jcw9811]

Anyone on lvl 151 yet? How many hits does it take and what attack do you have?

I know the level 150 boss has 35.33 bil health and I assume that the legendary goal bosses have the same health

[ghetto69143]

Thanks for your reply and summary.

Why is this EB event "the one"? This is the first time I have ever experienced an event that low level player cannot participate in...at all. Can't even get past Lev 1.
This makes this event unprecedented and unique.

Sure there are "Elite Level" LTQ's - but simultaneously there is an LTQ for non-elite players as well. This is different. This EB is a total shutout for lower level player (sub 60 million attack). That is what makes this "the straw that broke the something something..."

This conversation seems to keep drifting to stats, gold, "time put in", or completing the ALL the levels of the Epic Boss - that isn't what this is about at all. This is about why, all of a sudden (never has happened in the past), Gree decided to make an event that lower level players cannot even play (gold player or otherwise). Past EB events were open to all.. sure some players might not get past Lev 8 or 15 or whatever... but everyone could at least make SOME progress..

I'm having trouble getting my head around why this is being defended (regardless of what level your player is or what stats you have). It seems that the only people saying "what's the big deal"? Are the one's who this doesn't effect - and that is BS. This effects all players. If these type of events become the norm Crime City will turn into a ghost town...(a bit over dramatic but just go with it)..



Have you read some of the replies I have gotten? And the fact that you are asking "Why is this one the straw that broke the camel's back?" makes me think otherwise.

**EDIT - After reading my last line.. not calling anyone stupid. Just saying that clearly everyone isn't "getting it".

Big,
With this ne EB format ,in my opinion, is what is leveling the playing field. In a sense, anyways. I am closing in on level 200 and I'm moderatley having fun going through these bosses. See gree messed up with those stat inflated bosses. The big box event too. This gave the newer players a chance to catch higher stats. Now, 100m attack is the new low. Or something close to that effect. This new EB event allows the older players to compete with eb as opposed to being to being punished. Give it one cycle and see if Gree evens it out.. Vets were trying to figure our how come newest players can kill over 500 level 100s, whatever the EB name was, with 1 hit, and vets had to use gold to drop 1 level 100. I have players in my syn, one high, one low, they show how lopsided that eb cycle was… if vets have stuck it out this long, its only right that new players should give it a cycle or two.

I'm not a vet, nor am I new. Buy gold, don't buy gold. I'm just very active. As well as the leader of a t300 syn

[Big Earn]

I think everyone is forgetting that most new players that come into this game can't summon eb until they get to level 10. Unless they have bought high stat items with real cash, their stats are nowhere near strong enough to get halfway thru, let alone finish. My accounts range from 200 to 570 mil. All are struggling with this boss because of the huge stat increase. While they may be trying to make up for the last eb, non of this discussion would be happening if they hadn't royaly screwed up most every event since Gree took over the game from Funzio. Before then, all events were balanced for all players, there was no events catered to certain levels, the game was fun. Gree changing one event started a snowball effect where they had to change every other event to try and correct their past mistakes.

I agree with your assessment.

Just in my opinion - to your point of low level players not being able to finish EB events (the past events..not talking about this current one). I think that is OK. Ramping up the difficulty level according to stats, EB Lev 1 has low hit point and it scales up to EB Lev 100 with ridiculously high hit points (maybe even gold would be required to complete the last 2 levels or something unless you are a REALLY high level player)... this would allow ALL players to participate and gain rewards that are commensurate with the individual players Lev and Stats. But it needs to be consistent - they can't keep radically changing the algorithm. A low level player might only get to EB Lev 12 or something.. but the next month, when they are stronger, they might make it to Lev 17...etc Same with Med Lev and Higher Level players. It gives everyone a sense of accomplishment and progression.

I'd love to be privy to the conversations that led to that EB event in April where someone suggested "let mix it up and dump crazy high stat rewards for the low level players ONLY"... and now they have to "correct" their stupid mistake and with another mistake for this EB. By drastically changing up these EB events Gree has successfully alienated and upset EVERYONE.

This event could have been set up where the ramp up was steep enough where the lower level player (even with high stats for their level) kind of maxed out about Lev 40ish.. all the rewards up to say Lev 45 were "normal"... but from Lev 45+ the reward dumps were crazy high (like the April event)... that way, the High Lev player got their "payback" and the low levels could still play.

[Big Earn]

Big,
With this ne EB format ,in my opinion, is what is leveling the playing field. In a sense, anyways. I am closing in on level 200 and I'm moderatley having fun going through these bosses. See gree messed up with those stat inflated bosses. The big box event too. This gave the newer players a chance to catch higher stats. Now, 100m attack is the new low. Or something close to that effect. This new EB event allows the older players to compete with eb as opposed to being to being punished. Give it one cycle and see if Gree evens it out.. Vets were trying to figure our how come newest players can kill over 500 level 100s, whatever the EB name was, with 1 hit, and vets had to use gold to drop 1 level 100. I have players in my syn, one high, one low, they show how lopsided that eb cycle was… if vets have stuck it out this long, its only right that new players should give it a cycle or two.

I'm not a vet, nor am I new. Buy gold, don't buy gold. I'm just very active. As well as the leader of a t300 syn

I totally agree with you. A few post back Dat Guy pointed out how the April EB event shut out the higher level players - I was ignorant to that fact... It never occurred to me that Gree would make an event completely one sided... and then have to make a second one sided event to offset the first... hopefully they get back on track and stop with these crazy "over corrections"..

I'm not even sure how they can truly "fix it". Now that they have introduced a SIGNIFICANT level of stat inflation.. how are brand new players going to compete? It's one thing with day to day play where you rob/get robbed by players at or around your own level.. but now the Battle Events will be forever lopsided. ("forever" until Gree comes up with another brilliant solution hahaha).

On an unrelated note: It's really refreshing to see some of these well thought out and intelligent responses - as opposed to the one off throw away comments that add very little to the discussion. So thank you guys and gals!

[lewnbec]

Fair point, but we must always remember, Gree doesn't design events for fun, they design them to generate revenue, and I have a feeling Gree is gathering far more revenue than Funzio ever did.

I agree that they are probably making more money than funzio. They are making it to where you have to buy gold if you want to be able to compete. I have players in my syn that have been here playing for years that are having problems with this event. What I don't understand is, if they have done similar events in their other game and they didn't have the desired results, why bring the same thing to another game and cause problems for those players? Most of these players have already seen these events and the problems they cause.

[ghetto69143]

I totally agree with you. A few post back Dat Guy pointed out how the April EB event shut out the higher level players - I was ignorant to that fact... It never occurred to me that Gree would make an event completely one sided... and then have to make a second one sided event to offset the first... hopefully they get back on track and stop with these crazy "over corrections"..

I'm not even sure how they can truly "fix it". Now that they have introduced a SIGNIFICANT level of stat inflation.. how are brand new players going to compete? It's one thing with day to day play where you rob/get robbed by players at or around your own level.. but now the Battle Events will be forever lopsided. ("forever" until Gree comes up with another brilliant solution hahaha).

On an unrelated note: It's really refreshing to see some of these well thought out and intelligent responses - as opposed to the one off throw away comments that add very little to the discussion. So thank you guys and gals!

As you frequent the forums, you will get an idea of "who" to listen to. As well as who not to. I come in to see where others have gone wrong, new info(very little since a&f days), and just as much as a good laugh.

Post script,
Dippy, just like weasel, tends to be more direct about things. I can't help but laugh where these two are concerned. And I don't mean this negatively. both are on point about how they present something. With Vile, she's kool as(bad word filter cleans this section). Don't chat with them much but I've read quite a bit by them. there are plenty others that I've read of, but I'm gonna go back to my lurking. Have a good one

[sharpshooter333]

So how successful do u feel ur syndicate will be o getting 10 of the 300 goal?

[Jcw9811]

So how successful do u feel ur syndicate will be o getting 10 of the 300 goal?

My top 150 syn should finish at least 10 of them. So far all of them have taken less than 12 hours with the exception of Sunday since it was Mother's Day it took 16 hours as people were not as active as normal

[LeatherKicks]

No need to be insulted... just pointing out these "labels" might not hold a much weight as some put into them.

Many apologies if you are a published philosopher, scientist or even a Doctoral Candidate...etc It certainly would be a treat to run into someone like that on the Crime City forum.

NO one would be a doctor under your rule...