Tadaah

[dip.stick]

Both the game and the forums are a joke. No successful people play this game and no one will become successful playing this game - except TAW/FC and SAS, they have become successful morons.

This is a royal waste of time, money and energy and I pity the people who have spent months and especially years on this game. They live in a disillusion that they have accomplished something. What losers

[sharon08083]

Simply repeating fallacious use of data and a flawed data velocity theory does not make it fact. The reason nobody believes you is that your argument is incomplete, and therefore lacks credibility. My first post (page 9 of this thread) corrected your fallacies.

TAW rightly should be very angry and frustrated if Gree reduces their point total

Besides all that, the undeniable fact is every time SAS makes a run at #1, TAW steps up, regardless of SAS's rate of IP accumulation. That's exactly what happened last war, and there's no evidence that lacking a particular player the result would have been any different than it always has been in the past - namely, TAW outruns and outspends SAS, and takes the win. SAS in frustration goes on public forums complaining about how it's unfair to them, hence their reputation in the community as whiners.

The only difference is this time their leader, Mr. SilentAssassin, initiated the complaining rather than their two outspoken players (both former members now) ... and all the data smoke he blew over and over convinced a naive customer service guy (Tadaaa), or intimidated the game architects, who didn't want to alienate their #2 paying customer. SilentAssassin, congrats on your deceptive post-war strategy, since it worked. And be happy you got your #1 prize, which the community believes you did not deserve.

This argument states that just because taw wins everytime means they won this time is beyond pompous and absurd

[Keapa]

Then I shall sit back and wait to read the comments about sas knowingly used a hacker for 2 wars.

[The Governor]

Tam are you dense??? It doesn't matter if SAS had a hacker for every fricken battle. That's up to gree to investigate. Point is the #1 team in all of crime city had a CHEATER. End of discussion. The rest of us (not just SAS) do not like that a single bit. If SAS was cheating let gree investigate that.

Again you had a hacker/cheater and it's against TOS. Get over yourself.

OMC are you slow or just stupid? It does matter if you had a hacker every single battle. There is this little thing called a pattern. Which it seems SAS has for cheaters. Are u telling me the Baddad convo never happened between SAS' s board members? Are you telling me this alleged cheater wasn't in SAS 2 wars prior to last? Why when players leave SAS Montecore starts broadcasting that many of them were hackers/cheaters? Why did SAS want this alleged cheater back in their syndicate? Did Montecore leave SAS so he could be your team photographer?

How if you guys were in the tap match of your lives you had time to take ss of 1 players production?

There is no end to the tricks and conniving stunts SAS is willing to pull in this app game for a win. I've witnessed players like Montecore posing as a different person trying to get into TAW. I've witnessed SAS2 sacrifice their streaks just to watch SAS1 gloat about getting theirs. U guys are willing to step on anyone and everyone if it can earn u guys 1 ounce of a so called victory. Now u want understanding from us? Well u can take that bs and stick it right up the next cheater out of your hacker farm systems crack.

[SilentAssassin]

First thing is first. Learn how to use the "quote" feature.

A rookie sees a ton of posts in one thread and gets emotional. What he does not know is that all of the supporters in the thread are SAS players from SAS1 through SAS100, and dipstick who performed brilliantly, like Bruce Lee surrounded by a bunch of karate extras. Well done, Dip. I enjoyed my caramel popcorn. LOL.

A: Actually the supporters were from many top 10 syns, ranging to top 1000 syns , and SAS players yes.
So far it's 117 yes- 25 no
20 TAW players + 5 trolls
The main question that is ahead if us really is how many TAW players voted yes in secrecy.

And in addition, Dipstick did do a slightly better job than you.

Next, the rookie receives via email a ton of fabricated screen shots. Rookie wishes to make a name for him/herself and tada, makes a huge decision which sets an unfavorable precedence for GREE and all of its assets. This decision may cost the rook a reassignment to the 'have our towel warm and ready' department within the company. Advice: next time, seek wise counsel my friend.

A: The screens were not fabricated. In fact GREE is able to see where he hit. I've seen the breakdowns when I've personally requested to be refunded gold for getting 3 hits rather than 4 in a fill. They keep track and can cross check. Good try though. GREE didn't just take our word they had an investigation.
Another thing is... And I've explained this before... Tadahh is a median between us and the GREE decision makers. He only presents the decision GREE makes. He has say but it's up to the whole TEAM to decide.
Business 101 HB

Now, let's forget the SAS propaganda and manipulations and state a few facts.

I agree it just makes you look bad. No business skills whatsoever and back to one of your first points..you like caramel popcorn. Well I guess it's not that bad but that chocolate popcorn is way better. I have a sweet tooth I admit it ok!

I personally communicated with GREE prior to war on behalf of TAW. Of course, we would never accept SAS statements at face value, especially without being provided proof. Ex SAS player who is now known as 'the hacker' was cleared by GREE. I still have the email.

Thank god. We would love to see that email HB. You know plenty SAS officers please show some proof. If you don't want to that's ok too but just makes you look bad especially since SAS has proof on the table and a lot of it.
I do however take your word on it as well.

To date, GREE has not revealed the reason ex SAS aka "the hacker" was banned. Even if he hacked this past war (which would be despicable and not tolerated), the points he scored in that battle SAS is referring to, do not make up the difference to give SAS a victory. Gree gets it wrong again or perhaps rook gets it wrong. Tada... Subtract his score, and we still win by well over 1 million points.

A: you really need more a reason after seeing him score 1.1M in 4 minutes? Anyways moving on....

1) well it's really a Q 😆 Are you saying that the hacker only hacked when we specifically saw him? GREE has more proof than you do after the fact.
2) Should the hacker IP not be zero'd ? His account is banned and no longer active. Why do any of his points count ?
3) You lose by 50 k ip if GREE deducts the hacked IP and still counts remaining IP left over or a full deduction of the hacker points and lose by about 4 mil. (125.397 mil - 6 Mil = 119 mil)
There is no in the middle HB. SAS wins either way

SAS, I have told many of you in game that this was a brilliant strategy. It almost worked.

We won.

Thanks man, yes we scored 50 mil IP in 2 hours. Was a great run I completely agree with you. Impossible to defend on a working Monday.
One little disagreement there but we were really close to agreement on this one except the end. Because...

It worked.

TAW still had 10 minutes left after your last battle ended to put points on the board. How many points can we score in 10 minutes?

A: Considering you started your battle with SC with 45 min left in war, with a hacker you can score a lot. 300k ip a minute at any given time if you take a look at the PROOF presented to you that GREE in fact banned him for. 300 k ip a minute is equivalent to a team of 35-40 going all out non stop. He did that all by himself with the click of a button.

Serious Question: why didn't you keep "the hacker" and use the extra ip points to defeat TAW? Were you afraid that TAW would make up the difference as we always have? If discovered, oh well, SAS has no credibility anyway. Now, that's a strategy.

We booted him.
You were warned and kept the hacker.

Next question: How does SAS score 5 million points when they face us, in 10 seconds, with our wall up and none of our players having been hit? I will leave that answer to GREE.

A: that's a big lie. In fact if you want proof we track our battles with TAW. We check periodically when we can.
FYI HB, saying a lie over and over again doesn't make it true.
We've never scored 5 mil in "an impossible amount of time with ridiculous circumstances" when we faced you. In fact could a GREE mod please clear this one up too ? Would be awesome to show the poster HB blatantly lie to the public about something he claimed to see with his own eyes. HB, SAS will show you proof and so can GREE.
Tag team!

even if you do not like us, for whatever reason, know that we have a ZERO tolerance for hacks and cheats.

If this were true you would not have added him when SAS warned you, even if you say GREE cleared it
0 tolerance is 0 tolerance.
Why are you taking a risk on a player like that when the almighty TAW can fill a spot no problem and also hypothetically fill a spot after a hacker has been banned?

If TAW had a hacker, why would we lose to SAS in a battle in the last war? We could have ended your streak and seek you out throughout war weekend and do it again and again? Your premise has no basis. It made for good reading though.

A: Stop denying that you had a hacker. GREE banned him. You are in your denial phase. There are no "ifs". Those screens were taken at the END of the SAS VS TAW battle showing the player in question scoring 1.1 mil IP in the final 4 minutes of the battle. We lead most of the battle by 900k -1.1 mil ip and then magically at the end of battle you came within 400 k ip of us. We were shocked how close you got. With our win bonus we scored 25+ mil that battle too but take away the win bonus and it was dead close. The hacker is clearly shown in the screens going up 300 k ip per minute consistently, starting at about the 3 min and 45 second mark to the end of battle and scoring 1.1+ Mil. Trying to catch us himself.

You shouldn't argue against clear cut proof HB makes your case look weak

[Keapa]

I like the "let gree investigate" comment which is what we did in regards to that player

[I love tacos]

OMC are you slow or just stupid? It does matter if you had a hacker every single battle. There is this little thing called a pattern. Which it seems SAS has for cheaters. Are u telling me the Baddad convo never happened between SAS' s board members? Are you telling me this alleged cheater wasn't in SAS 2 wars prior to last? Why when players leave SAS Montecore starts broadcasting that many of them were hackers/cheaters? Why did SAS want this alleged cheater back in their syndicate? Did Montecore leave SAS so he could be your team photographer?

How if you guys were in the tap match of your lives you had time to take ss of 1 players production?

There is no end to the tricks and conniving stunts SAS is willing to pull in this app game for a win. I've witnessed players like Montecore posing as a different person trying to get into TAW. I've witnessed SAS2 sacrifice their streaks just to watch SAS1 gloat about getting theirs. U guys are willing to step on anyone and everyone if it can earn u guys 1 ounce of a so called victory. Now u want understanding from us? Well u can take that bs and stick it right up the next cheater out of your hacker farm systems crack.

OMC is very slow and stupid.

[SilentAssassin]

Proven hacker? Sas used that " alleged hacker" for their last two battles, the difference being they knew he was a hacker and kept quiet about it, and we thought he was just a regular player.

First of all he was booted the second we found out. We have screens of the whole ordeal which were sent to GREE and shown in public. We have nothing to hide

Now for your second point. So you're telling me after SAS clearly stated he's a hacker. Has 70 k gold and was booted to the curb instantly and then SAS warns you too? You thought he was just a regular player?

Great lie Tam. Please stop posting, you're almost as bad as HB. I don't have to say anything really you descredit yourself

[offline04]

I like the "let gree investigate" comment which is what we did in regards to that player

They found him guilty.

[Keapa]

First of all he was booted the second we found out. We have screens of the whole ordeal which were sent to GREE and shown in public. We have nothing to hide

Now for your second point. So you're telling me after SAS clearly stated he's a hacker. Has 70 k gold and was booted to the curb instantly and then SAS warns you too? You thought he was just a regular player?

Great lie Tam. Please stop posting, you're almost as bad as HB. I don't have to say anything really you descredit yourself

You claim you sent information to gree. Yet when we contact gree there was no adverse reports ....hummmm

[Rookeye]

You claim you sent information to gree. Yet when we contact gree there was no adverse reports ....hummmm

Quick question: Does Gree rush to the forums to confirm or deny "facts" for all and sundry? Regardless of source? Just askin'...

[The Governor]

Quick question: Does Gree rush to the forums to confirm or deny "facts" for all and sundry? Regardless of source? Just askin'...

How Gree manages these type issues is a mystery to us.

There is no way TAW would take the word of a team that has tried so many times to take our place at their word with anything.

Vlad provided nothing tangible for us to work with. Such as a Gree ticket number reference to include in our inquiry about the alleged hacker

[montecore]

You claim you sent information to gree. Yet when we contact gree there was no adverse reports ....hummmm

has gree ever rejectes an inquiry from TAW? they have approved your players in the past with obvious hacked inventories. can you tell us when gree has ever said 'no' to you?

How Gree manages these type issues is a mystery to us.

There is no way TAW would take the word of a team that has tried so many times to take our place at their word with anything.

Vlad provided nothing tangible for us to work with. Such as a Gree ticket number reference to include in our inquiry about the alleged hacker

Gree wouldnt tell you anyway. they keep their investigations private. i understand you were desperate for players but you should have listened to sas and done as you were told. you and your syndicate wouldn't be in such an awful mess if you had.

[Dipstik]

has gree ever rejectes an inquiry from TAW? they have approved your players in the past with obvious hacked inventories. can you tell us when gree has ever said 'no' to you?


Gree wouldnt tell you anyway. they keep their investigations private. i understand you were desperate for players but you should have listened to sas and done as you were told. you and your syndicate wouldn't be in such an awful mess if you had.

What awful mess? They got first place.

[Keapa]

I am sure there is still more sas drama to come