Tadaah

[namedud]

Trust is earned. Something tells me SAS has never earned any trust from TAW. Therefore, anything you claim to have told them is irrelevant.

You have claimed in the past that screenshots were not acceptable evidence of any wrong-doing because they can be faked too easily. Therefore, your claims of being able to readily provide screen shots to back up the story that can't be trusted are also irrelevant. Screen grabs not good enough proof for others, then they're not good enough for SAS either.

Finally, any speculation about what would or wouldn't have happened without the presence of "the hacker" is irrelevant since you can't prove it either way. If you care to listen to a logical argument based on historical facts, FC/TAW has won every war and has never had an issue scoring more than second place. They also don't have a history or record of scoring far more points than are required to take the top prize.

Let's hear your clever rebuttal. Millions in Ethiopia are still suffering from severe drought.

[dr007]

A: You should check the poll we have up. Community voted there
Who is the cc community? Members of SAS syndicates?


Your argument is you didn't believe us ? Who cares lmao we told TAW. Why would we listen to you? You have made false claims against ex SAS players in the past and tried to tarnish them as slackers, non scorers or whatever. In return, we have ex FC/TAW players in SAS, we never bad mouthed them to you. Fact is most of them have since returned to TAW. We also never targeted them as you have done to your ex players. Yet, SAS is better run and is a family. Correct?



A: this one is LOLz. TAW did not send a ticket to GREE. TAW can contact an SAS ofc and show us their ticket. But they won't. While we've released a lot of info to the public

What you have released to the public is inconsistent. I repeat I have emails back and forth with gree about this ex SAS player. Gree cleared him prior to war. Regardless, he did not score enough for SAS to win even if his score is disallowed.

[steverocks]

Answer to that is no. This is why we didn't just take SAS' s word at face value. We never know when it's a trick. So instead we consulted Gree 1 week prior to accepting this former SAS player into our syndicate. The response from Gree contradicted their claim. Gree cleared the player and said he is fine. We saw no reason not to bring this player in.

Yeah, why would TAW believe what SAS says? Anyways, TAW responsibly consulted GREE about this player and GREE said there wasn't anything wrong with him at the time. Why would you penalize TAW? If you need to ban someone, ban the guy that responded to TAW saying that there weren't issues with the player.

You guys at GREE need to step up! Just because SAS comes to the forum crying and whining like little kids doesn't mean that you should enable this behavior and give them what they want. Do you see this? It's like a disfunctional family: the kid (SAS in this case) cries and whines, the parents (GREE in this case) enables this behavior by awarding SAS with the first place prize.

Let me know if this is how you guys work, so that I can start making threads for weeks crying and whining about not having enough gold. Maybe you guys are down to enable my behavior and award me with a bunch of gold.

Sigh.... Come on Tadaaaah, do the right thing!

[TheJess]

A: if you don't understand what delta is don't post. They had a lead we destroyed. Do you not realize the hacker did 300 k per minute? That equavalent to a team of 35-40! The player they would sub him With would do max 20-30 ip per minute assuming he/she had an ip are air/iphone5s (fastest devices for cc to date). You just subbed 300 k ip per min for a max of 30 k ip per min. 10x less!
Delta Delta Delta



A: first of all no charge in the past comes even close to the charge we did in the final 2 hours. We scored roughly 50 mil ip in 2 hours. That's unheard of in CC until last war. Now I'm just gonna repost what I said before...... if you don't understand what delta is don't post. They had a lead we destroyed. Do you not realize the hacker did 300 k per minute? That equavalent to a team of 35-40! The player they would sub him
With would do max 20-30 ip per minute assuming he/she had an ip are air/iphone5s (fastest devices for cc to date). You just subbed 300 k ip per min for a max of 30 k ip per min. 10x less!
Delta Delta Delta

Simply repeating fallacious use of data and a flawed data velocity theory does not make it fact. The reason nobody believes you is that your argument is incomplete, and therefore lacks credibility. My first post (page 9 of this thread) corrected your fallacies.

TAW rightly should be very angry and frustrated if Gree reduces their point total

Besides all that, the undeniable fact is every time SAS makes a run at #1, TAW steps up, regardless of SAS's rate of IP accumulation. That's exactly what happened last war, and there's no evidence that lacking a particular player the result would have been any different than it always has been in the past - namely, TAW outruns and outspends SAS, and takes the win. SAS in frustration goes on public forums complaining about how it's unfair to them, hence their reputation in the community as whiners.

The only difference is this time their leader, Mr. SilentAssassin, initiated the complaining rather than their two outspoken players (both former members now) ... and all the data smoke he blew over and over convinced a naive customer service guy (Tadaaa), or intimidated the game architects, who didn't want to alienate their #2 paying customer. SilentAssassin, congrats on your deceptive post-war strategy, since it worked. And be happy you got your #1 prize, which the community believes you did not deserve.

[OmgMileyCyrus]

What you have released to the public is inconsistent. I repeat I have emails back and forth with gree about this ex SAS player. Gree cleared him prior to war. Regardless, he did not score enough for SAS to win even if his score is disallowed.

So you're ok with being awarded 1st with a proven hacker on your team? So if SAS uses a hacker next war and wins you will not say a word? Bull****! Youre a joke just like Tam.

[namedud]

It's not so much about being ok with having a hacker on the team, but rather not being ok with being mislead and then have what was thought to be a legitimate outcome turn out to be illegitimate, even though due diligence had been observed and the actions of some are beyond the control of many.

Or does such logic escape those who've been beaten into submission by their addiction to a mobile game?

[Keapa]

So you're ok with being awarded 1st with a proven hacker on your team? So if SAS uses a hacker next war and wins you will not say a word? Bull****! Youre a joke just like Tam.

Proven hacker? Sas used that " alleged hacker" for their last two battles, the difference being they knew he was a hacker and kept quiet about it, and we thought he was just a regular player.

[The Governor]

If we(TAW) inquired about the player a week prior to war and your staff cleared him, how can you or Gree's management think the right thing to do is punish us?

1. Gree cleared him
2. Gree called event. TAW was declared winner.
3. Gree did nothing before or during war to said hacker that would of allowed us to score additional points to make up the difference.
4. Change the outcome on the very syndicate that has won every single war since the start.

Bottom line is there could be several cheaters in this game. If a team brought a player in their syndicate in good faith are you prepared to change the outcome on every syndicate this could happen to?


I certainly hope you do the right thing because in my opinion your customers are not going to trust a company that will change the games outcome after event is over.

[Touch Down]

I certainly hope you do the right thing because in my opinion your customers are not going to trust a company that will change the games outcome after event is over.

You trust Gree now? Lmao

SAS should rightfully be declared the winner and if Gree don't then there is equal argument not to trust them even more so.
The point is it doesn't matter if This dude was cleared before battle... He cheated during the battle and needs all his ip wiped from the total of TAW ip score.

[sister morphine]

Proven hacker? Sas used that " alleged hacker" for their last two battles, the difference being they knew he was a hacker and kept quiet about it, and we thought he was just a regular player.

Evidence? (for the accusation against SAS that is)

[OmgMileyCyrus]

Proven hacker? Sas used that " alleged hacker" for their last two battles, the difference being they knew he was a hacker and kept quiet about it, and we thought he was just a regular player.

Tam are you dense??? It doesn't matter if SAS had a hacker for every fricken battle. That's up to gree to investigate. Point is the #1 team in all of crime city had a CHEATER. End of discussion. The rest of us (not just SAS) do not like that a single bit. If SAS was cheating let gree investigate that.

Again you had a hacker/cheater and it's against TOS. Get over yourself.

[J.R.]

Maybe a stupid question but how do you check with gree if a player may be a hacker? As the leader of a top 400 team i would like to know that players i accept are legit....is that possible for me or is it a special consideration the top teams get? How do you go about contacting gree to find out? I mean nobody wants a cheat or hack in their group so how do we go about checking
said players

[Rookeye]

Further, how do the top teams warn each other of bad players? You can't exactly name names on the forums with impunity and still follow the rules. Ban hammer anyone?

[dip.stick]

Yawn, the whining is beyond boring, like little kids fighting in the school yard. All you morons will be spending tons at the next war and then whining again. ALL you losers are hilarious.

[Rookeye]

Hilarious or boring? Pick one.