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  1. #76
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    gree-dee in the financial district, still laughing at tha 6 hrs later, im done! you cant take away what you advertised as "won", thas BS and probably illegal as money chaanged hands!
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    Just remember folks... this isn't their first fook up nor will it be their last. I am sure this will all blow over, some will stop playing and the rest will continue as is and gain those stats back in a week or two. That's the reality of it all.

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    Nothing but rubbish I spent hours upon hours earning all my prizes and all you left me with is one of each weapon not good enough I participated in way more than the prize list more like a few hundred and you jjustify that by leaving me with just a few items, and yet won't give me my gold back that I used to get my items

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    Gree has never MASS REMOVED items from a players inventory until now. Didn't turn out so good. Psychology 101 dictated to not award the prizes in the first place if they are not to be kept by the player.

    Like trying to snatch up a piece of Halloween candy from a trick-or-treater and trying to justify why you took it back from the 8 year old.. No logic will prevent the inevidable temper tantrum.

    On the flip side , we, as adults have to understand that the pixels simply cannot be given back to us whether we legitimately feel we've spent our hard earned money on them or not. Nobody understands the costly procedure in the planning, creation, and delivery procedure in something like the legendary toxic drum but someone on E-Bay might.. Why don't you try to sell it there, Gree?.


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    The interesting thing here isn't that they may have looked at the 2 items awarded and taken away one of those - it's that prize removal was completely random. So if you got 400 prizes from 200 wins, for example, and say 6 were legendary prizes from 10 Level 100 wins, they were thrown into the same bucket as the other 190 wins. The fact that they didn't account for how you got them is fascinatingly frightening (not to mention super lazy).

    It's a very interesting way to combat stat inflation...I thought we were against that, so not sure everyone needs to get their pitchforks for this.

    The more fair option probably would have been to take away all prizes and recalculate prizes based on the odds for the each of the exact levels defeated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mxz View Post
    The interesting thing here isn't that they may have looked at the 2 items awarded and taken away one of those - it's that prize removal was completely random. So if you got 400 prizes from 200 wins, for example, and say 6 were legendary prizes from 10 Level 100 wins, they were thrown into the same bucket as the other 190 wins. The fact that they didn't account for how you got them is fascinatingly frightening (not to mention super lazy).

    It's a very interesting way to combat stat inflation...I thought we were against that, so not sure everyone needs to get their pitchforks for this.

    The more fair option probably would have been to take away all prizes and recalculate prizes based on the odds for the each of the exact levels defeated.
    That's what I was thinking, you have a small chance for a legendary to drop most of the time so in the item removal script were variables like this taken into account?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euchred View Post
    That's what I was thinking, you have a small chance for a legendary to drop most of the time so in the item removal script were variables like this taken into account?
    Seriously doubt it. That would require a brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euchred View Post
    That's what I was thinking, you have a small chance for a legendary to drop most of the time so in the item removal script were variables like this taken into account?
    No, it was completely random, which is just stupid. Gree can we get a statement here what you gonna do to resolve this? You have to understand that it's no way near fair to remove legendary drops with the same rates as common drops.

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    Well if 10% of your items were legendary and they do a truly random pull, you should lose 10% legendary items. The losses should work out to the same proportion you got them in if there's a large sample size. If you have 3 items, it might not feel like it, though.
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    Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...
    Still mad at Bostick.

    I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

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    Incase you want to voice your opinion here !


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipstik View Post
    Well if 10% of your items were legendary and they do a truly random pull, you should lose 10% legendary items. The losses should work out to the same proportion you got them in if there's a large sample size. If you have 3 items, it might not feel like it, though.
    That's assuming you had an even distribution of bosses defeated (which is unlikely to be the case). I didn't calculate it based on the goal chain but I'd guess it's more likely a Gaussian distribution skewed slightly towards the higher levels.
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    Would the boss distribution matter? Once all of your prizes are aggregated into a pool at the end, you'll have some breakdown of common/uncommon/rare/epic/legendary, and if you pull at random from that pool you will get a proportional distribution.
    Quote Originally Posted by murf View Post
    Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...
    Still mad at Bostick.

    I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assault and Flattery View Post
    Okay!

    So here is what happened.

    During the event, some players were getting multiple items from a boss defeat, when only one should have been dropped. This turned out to be more widespread than we originally thought. This is clearly an unfair advantage. We have fixed it going forward for future events.

    At the end of the event, we ran a script to remove the extra items. We've taken measures to verify that the items removed were extraneous. Everyone now has one item for each time they killed Ixtab/participated enough.

    Contrary to popular belief, this didn't remove items you farmed after completing goals.

    As requested, here is a list of all the items affected:


    my demon rider is still missing from my inventory. my syndicate had finished all of the sltq. I got it but after a day, it was removed. Please help me to add back.
    Id: 881 215 499
    I had submitted ticket but no reply to my missing demon rider..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipstik View Post
    Would the boss distribution matter? Once all of your prizes are aggregated into a pool at the end, you'll have some breakdown of common/uncommon/rare/epic/legendary, and if you pull at random from that pool you will get a proportional distribution.
    You're right, that's an accurate way of deleting prizes regardless of "boss distribution". Problem is that when Gree does that they are deleting a percentage that was obtained by using gold. Gold bought with our hard earned money.

    Example: If they were to eliminate 10% of what I obtained from each prize tier, they've deleted about 10% of the vault I spent to obtain them. I think that's what Gree might not have taken into consideration when they deleted our prizes.
    Last edited by panty sniffer; 11-06-2013 at 06:15 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by panty sniffer View Post
    You're right, that's an accurate way of deleting prizes regardless of "boss distribution". Problem is that when Gree does that they are deleting a percentage that was obtained by using gold. Gold bought with our hard earned money.

    Example: If they were to eliminate 10% of what I obtained from each prize tier, they've deleted about 10% of the vault I spent to obtain them.

    +1 just give everyones stats back, somehow i lost more stats then people with 4 million attack
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    Gree you have made a big mistake, 1 Uzi should cost 100 Gold, not 5

    And the event should be 12 hours only...
    You giving us too much bro, like a restaurant giving out large messy portionsss

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