To everyone mad about wasting energy prestaging...

[Roborhino]

Didn't piss me off...

[TheSource]

"Getting ahead" aka exploiting..

The latest MW version has a exploit on both IOS and Android where users can use unlimited energy by doing some tricks. So there is a real glitch which is exploited by many players, I know that this glitch was floating around in several scouting chat rooms of top 25 / top 10 faction. For sure there are users who used it to pre-stage all targets and get the big prize without spending any gold or time.

[Ghost-12]

...People will always complain about everything. Cant satisfy
Every single player, that would be impossible... But honestly
A heads up doesnt take much!.They posted two post about
Delaying the LTQ, if i was them i would've had added at least
A sentence about this matter...
Oh btw this is also IMHO.

[Tournai]

I gained XP for Nothing! Left The Great Boss Tier, by prestaging à lot of Elite troops!
Passed by level 150, because those Elite Targets gave High XP pay out!
When You finish à target, You get à money payout! Always! And now My targets are Gone!
Think About it GREE!
With no Announcement by Gree! Thats just wrong!
I Am not Mad, but more like disappointed! Because this makes The game less more FUN
And according to me You also game to have FUN!
Btw Prestaging is NOT An Exploit!!! Why not? WE GOT FREAKING XP FROM THEM!!!

[nkeywithdnb]

So you couldn't remove the Elite Units immediately, they could have posted on the forum that they where going to be removed. I pre staged all Elite units. Several days of energy wasted. I am a little frustrated that they want to take away pre staging. It is one of the fun parts of the game. Your not getting over on GREE that much by pre staging but at least you feel you are. GREE, please don't take away pre staging. It is a fun part of the game for all of us. It's not about spending gold(I still spend a ton of gold), it is more about feeling smart and prepared.

[Mastert55]

You have a bit too much estrogen flowing through your blood at the moment.. take a break from the computer, change your tampon, and come back when you can speak to me like a man.

Hahahahahahahahahaha, you are a joke. I'm too angery at what this game has become of and I'm too disappointed at the players that support Gree's tactics of cheating players out of strategically getting ahead. You are one of the very scarce people that are on this forum that thinks getting ahead is cheating. Please, for the love of this game, none of us want to hear how you support Gree.

[HayeZeus]

First off everyone has the right to prestage. End of. No argument.

If people spent money like I did on trying to get ahead legitimately and Gree moves the goal posts, then in most countries they have an obligation to inform their users that they plan to make the change.

They wiped parts of the game that we were not told they were going to.

If you spent money on trying to beat this game and your provider did not provide a duty of care to its users you will be entitled to compensation.

So you spent a bunch of gold to save you maybe 30 minutes of hitting and now you're complaining. Prestaging with gold is pretty stupid. You either spend it before the event or during the event, all it does is save you a little bit of time. You gambled, and you lost.

[ac_ric]

Gree, if your intend was to eliminate pre-staging, all you had to do was simply add your new targets into the maps and left the old ones untouched.

You would have beaten pre-staging easily doing that. Or created new ITQ maps just specific for this event.

[dpghost mobile]

I liked LTQ's.
Since my leader explained me soon after being accepted, you can use the energy regeneration all time and you just have to hit one hit less than the kill.
Mean time we evolved to all kind of maps and targets, and pre-staging is a source of heavy unwanted XP.
In the past the prestige goal went exactly on the same path so you can use the pre-staged targets only once, then they moved to multiple targeting the same NPC.
This is new, leaving the targets out to be pre-staged and deleting them minutes away from the start of LTQ.
Never mind, I won't lower myself to qualify this move.
I really don't like XP and for the name of decency I expect Gree to say it loud:
YOU DON'T WANT US TO PRE-STAGE?
A simple yes or no will be highly appreciate

[Blehs]

I with the people who are unhappy about Gree suddenly removing the old LTQ targets. To all the people who are saying "too bad too sad" to people who pre-staged those removed units, then you obviously dont understand the effort that goes into pre-staging.

First of all i dont believe this was truly an exploit. Seriously, you dont think Gree thought of this tactic BEFORE they released the game? If they really didnt want people to pre-stage, the original game that came out wouldnt have allowed it in the first place. Gree may be bad in some aspects, but they arent stupid.

Gree's decision to remove the units RIGHT BEFORE the new LTQ came out was basically a very d!ck move. Like i said, people put effort and time into pre-staging so that they can get the most out of LTQ's. To see all that effort go right down the drain with no warning and seemingly for no reason at all is basically a massive b!tch. This isnt just about the game either, this applies to anything you do in your life - if you put tonnes of effort into something and suddenly all that effort goes to waste, would you be happy?

What makes it worse is that it could have been avoidable. Gree's handling of this situation could have been MUCH better. I mean if they gave a reason why they couldnt remove the units that was valid, then okay fair enough. But zero communication from Gree just results in lots of unhappy customers.

Gree have made alot of changes recently, and ALOT of them are revolving around making more gold. The introduction of units that are specifically for LTQ's ONLY was a profit-based decision. The new boss system was also a profit-based decision (the 100 boss kills part). The changing of the top 3 faction rewards was a profit-based decision. The influx of events per month was a profit-based decision.

In anticipation of the "what about the free 8k units dumbass? That also a profit-based decision?" comments, then no those ones weren't profit based decisions. However it also removes the effectiveness of camping and 1-man factions...so even though i cant see it now, im sure that this decision will somehow lead to Gree making more profit.

Basically Gree is running on a very thin line here...alot of the things theyve done recently havnt been very good for their reputation.

[Bravo Zulu]

You have a bit too much estrogen flowing through your blood at the moment.. take a break from the computer, change your tampon, and come back when you can speak to me like a man.

I wonder. If this were an ethnic or racial reference, how many people would see it as racist? On the other hand, you basically just called him a girl/woman- and meant it as derogatory. That makes this a pretty sexist remark. Way not cool. Especially since you guys are a bunch of guys sitting around whining and/or complaining about the game and shooting insults at each other. I'm just sayin.

For the record, this topic is no different than if you look back months- or even years. Those of us that have played the game since it started are well aware that there have been prestaging "erases" since the introduction of LTEs. Gree changes things without telling us all the time. That is not different. And CDR Shepard is right- people seem entitled when glitches go in their favor (e.g. The last faction LTE glitch that let many finish in under an hour).

All in all take heart. I was in the last generation of whiners and/or complainers (and did my fair share, estrogen and all) and I guarantee this: when you guys give it up (either the whining or the game) you can be certain that once you are tired of complaining there will be the next generation that will take up the torch. Every time I decide to come back here (I was once pretty active on these forums) it's the same stuff, different players.

Some things are very predictable.

[Sir josh]

So....why don't we all just quit? In mass and spend our time doing something else.

[104]

Very quickly because I don't want to spend to much time on this bull**** game anymore; gree...you can go and **** yourself !!!!

[Bobar]

Seen their comment on it?

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...-of-Elite-NPCs

"There was nothing to indicate in the game to indicate that they would be used in the future."

You had the chance to tell us. And as you do some MANY updates you COULD have deleted them earlier.

[VSH]

I just wanted to add my (and the 33 guys/gals in my team) frustrations to this thread.

Reading the comments above it is clear that people have different viewpoints ITHO.

Is pre-staging, as is being described by some, effectively 'cheating' or is it simply an established part of the game, available for any and all players to do? I can't see how that is an exploit, rather a strategic or tactical decision whether to do it or not. It's not a glitch or a hack, so I think calling it an 'exploit' is wide of the mark. Exploit implies some kind of dishonest act or less than moral approach. I can't see how pre staging can be classed as such. I personally don't think you could even describe it as gaining an upper hand. Again, players choose to pre-stage or not. Just because one person chooses to, doesn't make them a cheat, or trying to game the system. It's just part of the game, and remember, you gain a shed load of XP in the process, so you have to make an informed decision whether to pre stage or not. That's my view anyway.

GREE knows that most players pre-stage and it's never been a problem. They figured out ways of changing it up to keep us on our toes, fair enough. They introduced the Faction Limited Time event which I thought was great, something new, etc. Good job GREE.

However, and coming to the point, pulling the targets that many, many people will have pre staged without any explanation, heads up, etc is total rubbish. If these targets were never going to be used again, pull them from the maps the day after the last event finished. Don't leave them sitting around for a couple of weeks knowing that people will waste energy, gain XP, etc. trying to pre stage them. That is a crass decision which shows utter contempt for a loyal customer base. GREE seems hell bent on annoying it's customers. Sure, we can all quit, go do something else. But most of us don't want to quit. We enjoy this game, for all it's faults, and want to see it improve, not just walk away from it.

GREE knew people would pre stage those targets. GREE knew that some people may have used gold to pre stage those targets (not me though). Moving the goal posts without a word of warning.....

.....now that's real "exploitation"....