Quote Originally Posted by Ryosaeba View Post
Look mate, they are adjusting it. What's the point if everyone can kill the boss with 2-3-4 hits? Why not just give away the prizes for free? So now it takes 15 hits (for you). What's the matter with that? It's still totally doable without gems. Do you feel you shouldn't put any effort into any quests? Again, what's the point if that is the case? Heck, the boss even give potions as rewards! I have been using some of them to kill the bosses. Took a lot of time but zero gems to 100. So indeed, the numbers do speak for themselves. It's not easy as giving it away, it takes effort and time (as it should), and it's doable without gems. Can't complain.
Sigh. I never asked for it to be free. I simply stated that increase of 8x and a decrease of .06x were not commensurate. The algorithm/methodology has to more nuanced than that. Again, this is an attempt on the part of the respondent (in this case you) to reduce my position to the point of absurdity.

I am simply suggesting that for people who spent years and thousands of dollars developing something, pulling the proverbial rug out from under them in this way is simply not kosher. Perhaps there could be a model that allows you to choose your method of attack--i.e. you can use your old "attack" or the new "hero strength." This would allow those that have already invested to enjoy the fruits of their investment and give the new people an opportunity to invest in-kind. Perhaps this is a bad idea. I don't know. I do know that the model Gree resorted to is ridiculous in that they went from alienating one portion of their customer base to doing the same thing to the other side.
Quote Originally Posted by Ryosaeba View Post

No. I'm not the only one. Most in my guild (top 25) was able to finish without gems. Again, it took some effort, and gold, but still able to finish gem free. That's a win in my book.
Some effort? aka around the clock playing for four days! That is reasonable if you are new and/or building an account. If you have already put in this time and effort at some earlier stage, why should you be doing it all over again at this level of painstaking tedium? For the 20th time, I am not asking for free and easy. I am asking for a more sophisticated approach to this than simply a zero or a one. Gree has to be better than a binary conversation.

Quote Originally Posted by Ryosaeba View Post

I don't see how they can be mad. So instead of breezing through a 5 day event in 1 day, they have to put some time and effort in. Waffleking summed it up nicely. They are trying to balance the game for everyone. In the past, while you may be able to fly though EB, a lot can never make 100. Not even with some gem usage. Then you get those people complaining. I don't think this game can ever please everyone. There will always be something that will piss someone off. The best they can do is please more people then they piss off.
Once again, you miss the point that these people that were "flying" through it have already spent both time and money getting to this position to do this. There is some expectation that they should stay somewhere in that ballpark (i.e. closer than the delta between +8x and -.063x), since they paid for it. Gree needs to be better at creating solutions and not simply moving the problem to another stakeholder group.