Top players get the strongest units, so they will be better than the players with only weak units. That means that the lower ranked players will never make it to the top.
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Top players get the strongest units, so they will be better than the players with only weak units. That means that the lower ranked players will never make it to the top.
True. As long as they keep spending real cash.
indeed. Give it 4 or 5 more wars and no one in FUN will even be hittable by anyone
if they all keep playing ofcourse
Well there is a business dynamic (aka money making) behind all these GREE planning.
Oops ! Is this a secret?
I'd be pissed if I'm spending my money and I'm not going anywhere.
So when FUN get unhitable what's in it for them? I'm sorry but how can it be "FUN" in a guild where no one bothers them?
That would be referring to everyone not in top 3. At least FUN, RK, & SB have gained an incredible advantage for the money spent. It's the rest of the top 100 who are spending all the money with nothing to show for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cola3
the rest of the top 100 that spends "all the money with nothing to show for it " should apply to a top 10 guild and stop carrying their weak guild. thats my plan once i get my stats up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinkled4
Best statementQuote:
Originally Posted by Shluggy
yeah it's all about the almighty dollar, yen, euro, pound, rupee, whatever currency you spend. If the top 3 guilds have to spend absurd amounts of money to stay at the top and the rest of the top 100 are really just competing for the top 4-100 positions then that's 96 guilds spending money like mad men to get up there, and then the 100 - 500 trying to get to the top 500 means Gree has done a good job at making a game extremely profitable.... only downfall would have been the hacks that let cheaters get advantages without spending real currency.
Not necessarily true....Guild wars are just one thing, there's the LTQ, Boss and box. There's a lot of top 10-500 guild members who are in par with FUN and RK stats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinkled4
I'd love to see the top 500 player with 5m+ attack/defense right now.
Even tho that's not the average A/D of FUN and RK, I'd love to see a top 500 player who spent more than that guy who has that stats.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomUser
Not for long. I have spent a least a few months in 2 of the top 3 factions and can garantee you every member completes every LTQ and every boss event etc. The only way you will ever gain ground on some of them and that is to complete chest event since not every member completes those, but even then that is nothing compared to COK prizes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cola3
Don't forget ever LTQ they get more than others do, ever unit I get already gives aprox 130% ( so the prize for the last war which was 30k actually gave me 70k and will be worth even more as I get more boosts) more than base stats and those who have been in FUN the whole time are probably getting close to 160%.
The only way to catch up is to complete events and get boosts they don't but as they get every boost there is no way to catch up (unless they make the heroic quest in wars 55+ wins then even FUN won't be able to complete since they can't get more matches in).
For me I have basically accepted I will never be able to beat anyone in FUN within a few months (hopefully they remember me and don't attack :) hint hint hammer) but on the same token no one outside of FUN or RK will be able to touch me either
One thing that I don't quite understand is why the top players of the 2nd-10th top guilds have not yet joined together to form a temporary guild to take FUN out of first place, in at least one war.
In am a great admirer of FUN success, but are they really unbeatable?
There is no real point, just means what? Spending a lot more for one extra boost which unless you do it for at least the number of wars they have already won changes nothing overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by sousas
It is easy as it is now you join the faction that fits your budget and desire if you want everything and are prepared to spend you join FUN, if you are ok missing a boost a month and want to spend less you join RK or SB. If you are happy to miss a couple of boosts per month and spend a lot less you join a top 10 faction etc.
Yeah, exactly that. Believe me, the idea has been tossed around more than a few times.
How much $ are people in the top guilds spending on gems per month?
i know alot of players that score over 1 mil cps during war so do the mathQuote:
Originally Posted by boneshaker
Not true. When I first started playing the idea of getting into six figures in A/D (100K) seemed fanciful. That was in the early days of KA when the level topped out at 50, and having 20-30K A/D was considered impressive. Don't believe me? Have a look e.g. at this post from April 2012 from Ghost -- a strong player at the time. His stats were:Quote:
Originally Posted by horse
KA Ghost Level: 50 Attack: 12,178 Defense: 16,051 Income: 2570
Laughable by today's standards. I've seen people at level 16 with 200K A/D. The game has changed.
A year ago as I passed 100K and then 200K I saw folks up around 500K and could hardly believe it. The idea of hitting 1M in A/D seemed fanciful :). Now the guys in FUN are around 4-5 million, but a year from now that will look quaint as people will be hitting the 100 million (mark my words). So the only way the FUN guys, and anyone else at the top of the rankings, will remain untouchable is to keep pouring money into the game. I can guarantee that "coasting" based on currently having top units and top boosts will not cut it.
As for why they do it and whether it's "fun" to be unbeatable... Who knows? Some people like playing games in "God mode", others find it boring. Some people need to be the best, some are insecure in RL and find validation through on-line mastery... different stokes.
Believe me people raid all the time 😊Quote:
Originally Posted by Shluggy
Kruppe is sure it wasn't part of the Gree grand design but raids by opponents with 1-4 m less stats can succeed. To me this is consistent with little raids skirmishes by outlaws and brigands... Going to work sometimes but not always and a trail is left to follow. And of course there is the wrath of FUN 😄😄😄well, a giggle anyways..
$32,000 just for wars, minimum, split between their members. Then theres box leaderboarddQuote:
Originally Posted by boneshaker
Its not the stats its the boosts. If their boosts do twice what yours do it doesn't matter how much they inflat the units theirs will inflat by twice as muchQuote:
Originally Posted by custos
I remember when I start playing, that I wanted to be 2x level strong. These days, I'm roughly 6x and still don't feel strong. Smells like inflation...
Even now, being level strong is a quaint concept
Gree has signed the death warrant on Kingdom Age. Gold units are nearly obsolete, war prizes are exponentially more powerful with each event, and those that spend the most real money are becoming untouchable. I'd give it 6 months til most players are wallowing in boredom and move on.
I'm almost 20X my level. It's getting old... Strategy is for the most part gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by JanKA
This game hasn't got a strategic factor about it. This game could be fun and strategies could have been put in class to ensure a competitive game but some people are dumb enough to spend stacks of cash on a digital game that doesn't compete with top selling games. So really the only people you can blame are the people that spent hard cash that influenced greeS greed. The top players aren't skilled, probably Middle Ages men going through mid life crisis (plus they are either dirt rich or very stupid)
Wow, that's a lot of money to me!Quote:
Originally Posted by GQNammmer
Are you guessing or it is a real number?
That's still not including money spent on LTQs.
From my brief time in KA(started back in April of this year) I have found that achieving top500 can be done without gems, but to get top 300 or higher requires real $$$
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Originally Posted by tonyy1
There are still a few free players in the top 10. My guild is top 50 and is about 1/3 gem players 2/3 free players. You just need to be active to make it in this game. Or get on a team with some very heavy spenders!
Interesting thread.
Just to give you an idea. The final 2 units of the last guild war (Dauthus, Tormentor and Dauthus Avatar) had a combined attack of 78k raw. With the boosts that we have, my attack from these two units increased by >300k.
So, yes, the gap will widen as long as players on the top continue to have interest to get those units.
Whether it is good or not for the game in general is another question, but an easy one to answer.
The "sad" part is that many players literally spent 10,000s of real $ on units that very soon will not even be used in their army anymore.
Hey Kruppe,Quote:
Originally Posted by kruppe
Just realized that the Daleth, Claimant to the Delta looks like your avatar!
The angle of the body, the angle of the weapon that he's holding and even the color almost look the same!
Any copyright issue? Did they consulted you?
Pendragon.
Thorrodin.
The1Nonly.
Its hard to be the top player for very long. Same goes for being one of the top players. People miss quests, scale back, or just leave altogether. Top ten guilds lose players all of the time to retirement, or people decide to play free.
I'm not talking of getting 1st in guild wars to improve stats, I'm just saying isn't there nobody interested in being the 1st one to win a war, while not being part of FUN?Quote:
Originally Posted by procsyzarc
Nowadays is almost a point of honor for some players to be able to say that they pulled out a Daleth or a Tormentor. We have threads only for that purpose.
Yet I see no harder objective in KA than winning a guild war without being part of FUN or maybe FUN2.. ;)
The way this game is setup, you can indeed be better. Just spend more money then them. There is pretty much zero skills, strategy, or very little effort in being a top player in this game. Just simply spend more then them and you'll get ahead eventually. Finish all the quests and get those insane units. Eventually, those top players will move to another game or stop all together.
Let me tell you that that is indeed very difficult to accomplish :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryosaeba
At some point, it becomes not a matter of $ rather than how many times can you tap the attack button per minute (speaking for guild wars). Even if you are willing to spend more money you are limited to your network speed. :)
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Originally Posted by Guido69
Fools talk it is very simple it is only about cash and cash alone.. Don't kid yourself lol this game has zero requirements for skill or strategy for a true gamer.. All this game is is whoever spends the most is the winner.. That is the sad truth. But if it helps you sleep at night keep deceiving yourself I'm sure gree will keep telling you otherwise $.$
As Ryosaeba has said it's simple you just have to spend more money but that's the thing we aren't all rich or idiots to spend that much on a basic game. Personally I think you need help if your spending $ on this game.
Wrong. So, so wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cola3
You can make Top 300 easily without gems. If you can't, you are not doing it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kronous
Only someone in FUN or RK would say something this ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cola3