It won't benefit the top 10. If anything it'll raise the standard for top 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmudgePudge
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It won't benefit the top 10. If anything it'll raise the standard for top 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmudgePudge
We are dedicated players making a jump into the top 50. Our reward for this? Black frost. ..really? Real prizes for the rest of us would spawn more medium gemmers. Maybe an older epic for the top 50. Gree still gets money we actually get a "reward".
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My vote for the "reading comprehension award" goes to this guy. And after only 29 pages and several hundred "11+" mentions.Quote:
Originally Posted by XK Domo
I support 11+ movement
It would be nice that anyone above a certain level be rewarded to make it more challenging. There's way too much hacking going on, and I can't believe I've dropped money on this game to just be disappointed. I love the game, but it needs some help.
+11
:)
Not spending anymore until shizznit gets fixed (3 accounts, 95% of time 800 pack gem purchases).
2-8 misses in a row.
This war was seeing 150's in points, against Sent/GM/GC. Why level to 100+ and get epic armor, for crappy 150's points?
Nothing to do past level 100. Epic Boss is just 'something to do', I dont ever craft the armors. Have much better 5-star epics.
Arena is boring.
4 day war? About the only thing to do.
Combining armor is sorta fun, but gets old after 40 non-epics.
....yet record spending this war. Your concerns are irrelevantQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave3d
Record spending? Says who?Quote:
Originally Posted by Slayer 1
This was one of the lowest spending wars in a while. Hellfire was probably the highest scoring war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slayer 1
Ok - change 'record' to 'significant'.Quote:
Originally Posted by smujica93
Going off total points in the top 50. I can't speak to Busteroafs history here (Since his first EB was "The Elvis" back in '62 ...WAY before the heyday wars of multi-hued armors of the early 70's...) - but having to break 2mil to crack the top 50 hasn't been done in the last 5-6 wars.
POINT IS - n-o-t-h-i-n-g is going to change because people ***** for it on the boards or some sill-assed 11+ 'movement'. You'd be better served writing your complaints on a 3x5 card and slipping it between two shipping containers on a slow boat to Taiwan.
Easy (and incredibly unoriginal) answer is to predict nothing happens and everyone who tries is stupid. Reality is GREE is open to cheap and easy ideas to implement that will generate more money. Better rewards for top 25 and top 50 cost zero to implement. They will produce a surge in spending. This war shows that as the spending in 50-12 increased. All it takes is a weak 11th place and GREEs income drops percipitously. It's been very fortunate to have a gemming guild in 11th willing to fight hard for several wars. If there are only 10 really serious guilds, the spending plummets. I bet the difference between 25th place and 10th place hasn't been this close in months same for 50 to 10th place. GREE will get a lot more money if it incentivizes these guilds to really push for an actual reward (other than just the ability to say they came in ___ place).Quote:
Originally Posted by Slayer 1
And yet on Android the scores for top 50 were down
Also with mael fuseable and cloud the referral bonus -- air/water is pretty saturated.
Am I the only one that sees gree's last 11-50 reward as an amazing response to you 11+ retards lol.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
well considering it was decided before the "retards" were even responded to maybeQuote:
Originally Posted by Bshappell
Kingdom Age had a similar 'game strike' and if you go read their forums they actually got a pretty decent update
I'm a full supporter of the 11+ movement. but one thing i have not seen brought up (yet, or i may have overlooked). Once, there was a quest chain that required us to farm an obscene amount of materials, (like 200+ of each basic element, 50 of the silver star, 25 of the gold star, etc) It's a bit over kill. but at the same time, i had a lot of fun pursuing that goal because it was a time crunch as well as an objective/goal behind farming. I feel there should be similar quests linked with Epic Bosses, whether it's farming supplies (to help with leveling the current armor), or kill certain monsters x amount of times, only stating the monster's name and you have to "find it".
this would help with guild progression/leveling, as well as giving the casual players something to do. The rewards would/could be simple too. first tier quest = gold (maybe 25-50k for leveling armor), 2nd tier could be 2-5 fusion stars, and 3rd tier could be a gold/DP key, for chance of boosts/nemesis.
Also... why not make it a 1% chance where you can win a higher tier key from a chest. (silver key chance gold, gold chance DP, and during events DP chance special chest keys).
These simple changes are enough to help the casual player have "more to do" without adding content.
Seriously? For you - or any of the other pontificating blowhards here - to cite 'unoriginality' as a precursor to posting - you'd have a pretty blank forum, and a cast of characters forever muted.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pale Rider
My point was that an insignificant number of folks (combine every active forum member now - including the ridiculous few claiming retirement - and you have a relatively insignificant number compared to the total player pool) whining/touting/screaming/justifiably protesting/whatever on some come-hither-by-default forum has very little overall effect on an international game. To think otherwise rises to a level of self-importance ....... well, that's typical here :-)
Pretty long post for only 3 sentences. Grats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slayer 1
Also, good job including yourself in those who think their importance is any higher than... you know, typical level here.
Says the guy whose every other post is about himself.
This is bull**** Gree. In the description you gave us you said yourself that only players that follow the rules will be awarded with the prize. Your main rule that the story could only be 4 sentences was the reason why so many people only wrote a short story. Now you're saying **** you to the people that followed the rules and rewarding the players that didn't follow the rules. So how you expect us to play fair when you guys are the hypocrite ones?
Good post, but yes overlooked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Everdark
Your first point falls under the catagory: * Additional LT quests to be added.
The list created by the 11+ Movement has been carefully considered by Veterans and Juniors in the game after hefty debates.
About your second point (At least I think this is what you mentioned?)
I don't agree with giving the Silver/Enhanced/Dark Prince chest a chance for winning a Key for the higher Tier.
This is because I actually like my Enchanted Chests the way they are now.
I actually think I can speak for a lot of people who dislike the Dark Prince Chest rewards.
Nemesis these days are useless unless they get some potential use in addition to just having better stats against the boss. Legendaries are cool but the drop rate is very low. Also there are no Fusion Stones or Fusion Boost Armors to be found in the Dark Prince Chest.
All the Italian Knights members support the 11+ Movement
All members of guild SPAIN ( 40 members ) and members of our other guild SPAIN Academy, support the 11+ movement, we have to change this !!!
Well, gee - thanks for taking time out of your busy day to post a review of my ....posting. Whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by busteroaf
Anyhow - practical advice for the "11+-ers"?
1) reduce your list of demands to 1. Uno. Eine. aka: singular. Harp on it - focus on it, and drive that 1, most important, point home. See if you get a response. See if you can actually illicit change. See if Gree 'cares' about your movement enough to take action on 1 thing.
2) IF they respond to your 'request' (sounds much nicer than demand) then you've got a flow of conversation. Then you can further inquire to other changes. If they don't respond? Then...
3) Continue chanting. This is fun to watch.
What's with the conjoined twin (King Mark)? You making some sort of political statement/tribute - or just not able to let go of that little "337", since number of postings here seems to hold some sort of status?
The Mark thing is/was because it was a happy time when he was perma-banned. Nothing to do with post count. I would say look at the post history, but you'd have to look back a long way before you'd understand.
ok. Good deal - was just curious as it was rather unique. Thanks.
My oh my, I leave KnD for a month or so and 11+ goes viral! At least the forums have something worth arguing about again. I haven't read the 31 pages posted here, but agree with Slayer in the posts above that immediately demanding these 11 things, of which some are wonderful ideas, and others questionable imo, is starting off a little strong, but hey, maybe something will happen.
I would really like to see a united front against the spending however (even though I stopped some time ago personally), as it would send a message. There was something about market forces and busteroaf's bistro some time back (nice graphic btw Sol). I've no desire to open that can of worm again, but it is certain, without a doubt (in my mind) that the only thing that will make GREE listen to any of this seriously, is a top 10 score distribution in the 2 million range for several wars in a row.
That's market force. That's making a statement. Actually hit their pocket book, with everyone, more than once, or nothing will happen. That isn't saying that what happens is what you want thoguh. perhaps they percieve this as the game has run its course? perhaps the just stop supporting it.
Clearly GREE has no track record of being a quality company out for the best interest of its gamers. it hasn't taken suggestions in the past to improve the game significantly (it has just done whatever it wanted irrespective of us), so I wouldn't hold my breath for it to start now.
KnD has an amazing amount of potential to be much more than it is. 11+ is trying to get it there. For that I salute you. I tried for a while too. Nothing happened. I quit. I'll cross my fingers it's different this time though. It might be if you can actually pull off a few 2 million top 10s
hey, it was pretty close last time. Hopefully they get the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyntree
I'm newbie.. please help to play game.
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This stop spending thing....it's lol
If RR and DK said ok we will not spend this war, how fast do you think a 5-10 guild would max the credit cards to be the ones that broke the streak?
It'll never happen
I don't know, how fast would they? The better question, is "are there guilds in the 11-50 range that would open up their bank accounts to try and take a top 10 spot?"Quote:
Originally Posted by obviously
The whole point of the movement is for better rewards for 11+, and one of the biggest arguments is that if they had better rewards, they would spend more. I'd like to see a few of the Top 10 not spend and see just how much the fill-in people pony up for an epic before I have enough faith that those in the 11+ are actually going to spend for the better rewards they want to see.
I stand corrected...I don't even see DK on the boards this war
i guess they added more checks now which makes the game unplayable it takes me at least 30 mins too open chest 3 times with all the freezeing and then it says Knights and dragons not responding it really sucks yes we need more levels without the same creatures too battle and million baby t-rex dressed differently come on your team can do better then that... and guild war prizes now suck lol you actually could get some armor before last update
Let's make the game more fun and make more money for gree.
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Originally Posted by mikieblue
The rewards for the coming war will show whether or not they actually listened.
I know a lot of guilds have already started to make moves to be more competitive for 11-50. I know Elita is aware of how important this is for us.
Let's hope that when The Wise One says that they listened to us and when Elita says that they like some of our ideas, that GREE does the right thing and responds in a way that will improve the game and keep a lot of the great players around who might otherwise quit.
Wow. I am very happy that GREE listened to us and changed rewards. Very grateful that they made an attempt to make us happy. This is a great start and hopefully improvement continues.
And is "Sol Vanguard" a hat tip reference, or a coincidence?
Whoa.
Really be gratefull for what you got now don't call a 26+ the 25 is more as enough. Now they need to make the top 10 prices nicer... or they need to keep elements of 11-25 same as top 10. really a glasscannon fire epic.... really.... rather have the forgestone lol.
Look at yourself, what are you paying for the game? We pay a lot and with the current changes I regret even doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bshappell
Also the 11+ movement was great for the banning of cheaters and hackers. Also refrain from calling people retards without knowing them at all.
Great moment for 11+! Thanks for all of your support guys n ignore the haters... As expected gree came through for a reasonable and well structured request!
Major props to gree!!!! and all the guys who kept the faith! 11+ will continue.. Please link in in a few hours as we plan to adjust ratings and remove satisfied objectives from our requests!
Anyone happen to know what the cutoff for top 25 was in the last 3-day?
It'd be interesting to see if it moves at all after this.
Should've made a note of it before but neglected to think about it then.