[Updated] Official 11+ Movement Thread

[Reversal]

I'm a full supporter of the 11+ movement. but one thing i have not seen brought up (yet, or i may have overlooked). Once, there was a quest chain that required us to farm an obscene amount of materials, (like 200+ of each basic element, 50 of the silver star, 25 of the gold star, etc) It's a bit over kill. but at the same time, i had a lot of fun pursuing that goal because it was a time crunch as well as an objective/goal behind farming. I feel there should be similar quests linked with Epic Bosses, whether it's farming supplies (to help with leveling the current armor), or kill certain monsters x amount of times, only stating the monster's name and you have to "find it".

this would help with guild progression/leveling, as well as giving the casual players something to do. The rewards would/could be simple too. first tier quest = gold (maybe 25-50k for leveling armor), 2nd tier could be 2-5 fusion stars, and 3rd tier could be a gold/DP key, for chance of boosts/nemesis.

Also... why not make it a 1% chance where you can win a higher tier key from a chest. (silver key chance gold, gold chance DP, and during events DP chance special chest keys).

These simple changes are enough to help the casual player have "more to do" without adding content.

Good post, but yes overlooked.
Your first point falls under the catagory: * Additional LT quests to be added.
The list created by the 11+ Movement has been carefully considered by Veterans and Juniors in the game after hefty debates.

About your second point (At least I think this is what you mentioned?)
I don't agree with giving the Silver/Enhanced/Dark Prince chest a chance for winning a Key for the higher Tier.
This is because I actually like my Enchanted Chests the way they are now.
I actually think I can speak for a lot of people who dislike the Dark Prince Chest rewards.
Nemesis these days are useless unless they get some potential use in addition to just having better stats against the boss. Legendaries are cool but the drop rate is very low. Also there are no Fusion Stones or Fusion Boost Armors to be found in the Dark Prince Chest.

[Heredia]

All the Italian Knights members support the 11+ Movement

[ZiZaK]

All members of guild SPAIN ( 40 members ) and members of our other guild SPAIN Academy, support the 11+ movement, we have to change this !!!

[Slayer 1]

Pretty long post for only 3 sentences. Grats.

Also, good job including yourself in those who think their importance is any higher than... you know, typical level here.

Well, gee - thanks for taking time out of your busy day to post a review of my ....posting. Whatever.

Anyhow - practical advice for the "11+-ers"?
1) reduce your list of demands to 1. Uno. Eine. aka: singular. Harp on it - focus on it, and drive that 1, most important, point home. See if you get a response. See if you can actually illicit change. See if Gree 'cares' about your movement enough to take action on 1 thing.
2) IF they respond to your 'request' (sounds much nicer than demand) then you've got a flow of conversation. Then you can further inquire to other changes. If they don't respond? Then...
3) Continue chanting. This is fun to watch.

What's with the conjoined twin (King Mark)? You making some sort of political statement/tribute - or just not able to let go of that little "337", since number of postings here seems to hold some sort of status?

[busteroaf]

The Mark thing is/was because it was a happy time when he was perma-banned. Nothing to do with post count. I would say look at the post history, but you'd have to look back a long way before you'd understand.

[Slayer 1]

ok. Good deal - was just curious as it was rather unique. Thanks.

[Zyntree]

My oh my, I leave KnD for a month or so and 11+ goes viral! At least the forums have something worth arguing about again. I haven't read the 31 pages posted here, but agree with Slayer in the posts above that immediately demanding these 11 things, of which some are wonderful ideas, and others questionable imo, is starting off a little strong, but hey, maybe something will happen.

I would really like to see a united front against the spending however (even though I stopped some time ago personally), as it would send a message. There was something about market forces and busteroaf's bistro some time back (nice graphic btw Sol). I've no desire to open that can of worm again, but it is certain, without a doubt (in my mind) that the only thing that will make GREE listen to any of this seriously, is a top 10 score distribution in the 2 million range for several wars in a row.

That's market force. That's making a statement. Actually hit their pocket book, with everyone, more than once, or nothing will happen. That isn't saying that what happens is what you want thoguh. perhaps they percieve this as the game has run its course? perhaps the just stop supporting it.

Clearly GREE has no track record of being a quality company out for the best interest of its gamers. it hasn't taken suggestions in the past to improve the game significantly (it has just done whatever it wanted irrespective of us), so I wouldn't hold my breath for it to start now.

KnD has an amazing amount of potential to be much more than it is. 11+ is trying to get it there. For that I salute you. I tried for a while too. Nothing happened. I quit. I'll cross my fingers it's different this time though. It might be if you can actually pull off a few 2 million top 10s

[bosskiller]

My oh my, I leave KnD for a month or so and 11+ goes viral! At least the forums have something worth arguing about again. I haven't read the 31 pages posted here, but agree with Slayer in the posts above that immediately demanding these 11 things, of which some are wonderful ideas, and others questionable imo, is starting off a little strong, but hey, maybe something will happen.

I would really like to see a united front against the spending however (even though I stopped some time ago personally), as it would send a message. There was something about market forces and busteroaf's bistro some time back (nice graphic btw Sol). I've no desire to open that can of worm again, but it is certain, without a doubt (in my mind) that the only thing that will make GREE listen to any of this seriously, is a top 10 score distribution in the 2 million range for several wars in a row.

That's market force. That's making a statement. Actually hit their pocket book, with everyone, more than once, or nothing will happen. That isn't saying that what happens is what you want thoguh. perhaps they percieve this as the game has run its course? perhaps the just stop supporting it.

Clearly GREE has no track record of being a quality company out for the best interest of its gamers. it hasn't taken suggestions in the past to improve the game significantly (it has just done whatever it wanted irrespective of us), so I wouldn't hold my breath for it to start now.

KnD has an amazing amount of potential to be much more than it is. 11+ is trying to get it there. For that I salute you. I tried for a while too. Nothing happened. I quit. I'll cross my fingers it's different this time though. It might be if you can actually pull off a few 2 million top 10s

hey, it was pretty close last time. Hopefully they get the point.

[Jammes]

I'm newbie.. please help to play game.

[obviously]

This stop spending thing....it's lol

If RR and DK said ok we will not spend this war, how fast do you think a 5-10 guild would max the credit cards to be the ones that broke the streak?

It'll never happen

[busteroaf]

This stop spending thing....it's lol

If RR and DK said ok we will not spend this war, how fast do you think a 5-10 guild would max the credit cards to be the ones that broke the streak?

It'll never happen

I don't know, how fast would they? The better question, is "are there guilds in the 11-50 range that would open up their bank accounts to try and take a top 10 spot?"

The whole point of the movement is for better rewards for 11+, and one of the biggest arguments is that if they had better rewards, they would spend more. I'd like to see a few of the Top 10 not spend and see just how much the fill-in people pony up for an epic before I have enough faith that those in the 11+ are actually going to spend for the better rewards they want to see.

[obviously]

I stand corrected...I don't even see DK on the boards this war

[Sir Bup]

i guess they added more checks now which makes the game unplayable it takes me at least 30 mins too open chest 3 times with all the freezeing and then it says Knights and dragons not responding it really sucks yes we need more levels without the same creatures too battle and million baby t-rex dressed differently come on your team can do better then that... and guild war prizes now suck lol you actually could get some armor before last update

[XK Domo]

Let's make the game more fun and make more money for gree.

Patience is running out for many knd players. Poor communication and lacking effort from GREE has brought together many top players and guilds...

We all love this game and change needs to happen. We need to grab GREE's attention! I'll be acting as a spokesperson for knd players and contacting gree directly on Monday.

We support:
* Better rewards for top 50 guilds in war
* New map levels
* GM ability to kick leechers without reward.
* Additional things to do for level 100+
* HC only to have declare ability.
* Additional LT quests to be added.
* Hacking prevention and stricter checks

We are asking ALL players to...

* Post the list of requirements in a comment on play store, titled. we support the 11+ movemenent
* Add "I support 11+ movement" to forum signatures
* Spread awareness of what we are doing...

**Please refrain from boycotting in the forums as this is against ToS. Thanks!! (Elita)**

[Sol Invictus]

The rewards for the coming war will show whether or not they actually listened.

I know a lot of guilds have already started to make moves to be more competitive for 11-50. I know Elita is aware of how important this is for us.

Let's hope that when The Wise One says that they listened to us and when Elita says that they like some of our ideas, that GREE does the right thing and responds in a way that will improve the game and keep a lot of the great players around who might otherwise quit.