Modern war shuting up shop

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Originally Posted by J-manKometh96

Nothing in this game is worth $20 a cycle, nevermind just an LTQ. Regardless of what kind of "reward" is given. Your thinking is beyond flawed as a top 4000 would never have spent anywhere near that at this games best, again regardless of whatever "reward" was given.

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Not sure how its flawed. Each faction has members willing to spend large amounts of Gold, maybe not top 5 large but still large. if faction events were at most 120 buck (prestige) during a rush through and each member contributed 2 bucks each, you can finish faction. That with time to regen energy means a cheaper or free event if done right. We dont know the numbers on who spends what but factions dont spend because everything is so out of reach. Make everything reasonable, people spend.

Walmart is one of the biggest companies on the planet built on the model of getting millions of customers to spend $20 on lower quality goods at a very reasonable price.
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Apple is one of the biggest companies on the planet built on the model of getting thousands or people to spend $500 on high quality, thoroughly tested goods at a moderately reasonable price that people expect to pay for that level of goods.
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Gree is a company built on getting hundreds of people to spend thousands of dollars for crud.

The secret with Wal-Mart isn't directly with the prices per-se. Their secret sauce is that they've figured out how to build efficiency into their supply chain which reduces their cost - they pass these cost savings onto the customer. This allows them to have un-competitive prices. They build their profit on volume, similar to Amazon, Visa/Mastercard/etc making millions upon millions from a few cents on each sale.

Apple on the other hand has very strong brand loyalty. They've managed to get millions of people to spend their money on each iteration of their devices, which carry a hefty profit margin for Apple. In essence Apple is chasing the whales but at least the whales in this case get something valuable in exchange for their money. Non-whales still get to play because there's a strong aftermarket for used apple devices.

With freemium games, it's all a play on emotion. The only thing the players get in exchange is a really nasty case of financial hemorrhoids.

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Originally Posted by Pidgeot

Not sure how its flawed. Each faction has members willing to spend large amounts of Gold, maybe not top 5 large but still large. if faction events were at most 120 buck (prestige) during a rush through and each member contributed 2 bucks each, you can finish faction. That with time to regen energy means a cheaper or free event if done right. We dont know the numbers on who spends what but factions dont spend because everything is so out of reach. Make everything reasonable, people spend.

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Your flaw is right there in your second sentence. You've been spending so much for so long, that without even realizing it, you've actually come to believe that. No wonder you want to work for GREE.

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Originally Posted by J-manKometh96

Your flaw is right there in your second sentence. You've been spending so much for so long, that without even realizing it, you've actually come to believe that. No wonder you want to work for GREE.

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A business needs to make money and if GREE wants to make money, they should do it in a way to where everyone can benefit equally. I dont mind spending IF I can gain from it. I also want to work for GREE's art department. Just because the game is ass in playability does not mean the art quality is also ass.

Maybe if Gree shut down the game they can then rethink their business practice.

Pidgeot, anyone that spend x dollars has access to the same things. I'm not following what you're trying to say with that one. Some one who spends a little obviously isn't going to get the same things as someone who spends a lot. And there's no real way to overcome the bonuses that have built up by playing at the top for years, but those guys have spent years spending at that level to achieve them.

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Originally Posted by Speed ump

Pidgeot, anyone that spend x dollars has access to the same things. I'm not following what you're trying to say with that one. Some one who spends a little obviously isn't going to get the same things as someone who spends a lot. And there's no real way to overcome the bonuses that have built up by playing at the top for years, but those guys have spent years spending at that level to achieve them.

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I have to agree with Speed, here, PUN has been spending lots since the game started and have build a huge stock of bonuses
for example in this current war, they have only score 45m points (which is more than enough to ensure top 1)
but this 45m points have cost them way less than what they had spent in the first WD wars, because now they are receiving the benefit of all those bonuses they have accumulated, thus they spend less to achieve the same or more amount of points.

which unfortunatly is has been causing GREEdy to loose revenues because 1- PUN spends less per event now and 2- nobody cares to try to push for top1
the real fight are for top 10 and maybe top 3
Only if top3 tries for top 2, then they will push the score thus making PUN score more too, but that has not been happening for a while
every WD we see top 1 scoring less and less because they do not need to score more

in the end revenues will keep on dropping and eventually game will be taken offline just like LAW, MQ, CL and many other gree games

for the time being, lets just keep enjoying what we can, which is not much thanks to gree
I think only events they have not really GREE-UP are WD and FL to some extend and are still fun to participate

If the team on top stopped at 100,000,000, or even 10,000,000; the others would line up accordingly.
Teams know their place.
Guess what such cooperative efforts would mean to individual players?

Lol, sure they would. I think I just spotted a flying pig too. So you're saying that all those teams are actually attempting to keep up with sup currently? I think even Emporers will tell you that they are not.mtheyre just looking to stay ahead of third and get their wins and streaks in. That's a pipe dream you've had for years now that will never happen. You will never get all th teams to cooperate with that, and then if someone ( and yes many will ) takes advantage, and jumps ahead, then it's chaos. It would never work, even when we tried doing that with OSW, they still pushed the score because of their dislike for sup2. People will always act on their own agenda. It will remain as is until the day where the game no longer remains. IT might be muddled at the very end if gree tries to prolong it past the point of the spenders still spending in coherent teams.

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Originally Posted by Speed ump

Lol, sure they would. I think I just spotted a flying pig too. So you're saying that all those teams are actually attempting to keep up with sup currently? I think even Emporers will tell you that they are not.mtheyre just looking to stay ahead of third and get their wins and streaks in. That's a pipe dream you've had for years now that will never happen. You will never get all th teams to cooperate with that, and then if someone ( and yes many will ) takes advantage, and jumps ahead, then it's chaos. It would never work, even when we tried doing that with OSW, they still pushed the score because of their dislike for sup2. People will always act on their own agenda. It will remain as is until the day where the game no longer remains. IT might be muddled at the very end if gree tries to prolong it past the point of the spenders still spending in coherent teams.

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Speed
the game has been on life support for a while now thanks to all the GREE-UPs by gree
so many has left the game
see the leaderboard
after 3 days, 4009 "factions" are listed
3,500 of them have under 500k points
409 factions are under 2.7m points
the rest are pretty much the same factions that are always in top 100
participation in this WD has been declining for a while and with even more crappy prizes, it will continue to do so

again, we should just enjoy what we can, when we want

War rewards should not pale in comparison to other event rewards.

This is Modern War.

MW could possibly find itself without a customer base soon enough...who knows....but at the end of the day, when the milk dries up, it will be because GREE walked away from a perfectly good cow, and did so for what purpose....to entice more spending in FL?

What will the whales do when there are no fish to feed on?

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Originally Posted by HellRaizer

What will the whales do when there are no fish to feed on?

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This is an important point.

MW is having trouble because the freemium business model is much like a ponzi scheme, just not illegal.

It is highly dependent upon new blood, and MW made a big mistake a long time ago by making it pretty much impossible for new players to enter the game and be competitive.

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Originally Posted by HellRaizer

What will the whales do when there are no fish to feed on?

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I think you mean, SHARKS, as in GREAT WHITE SHARKS.