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I fought hard to get that executive coupe... At least burned a lot of gold.
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You have known for over 2 weeks that this was an issue, yet you've rolled out this dog's dinner content regardless? GREE have plumbed new depths as far their their total and utter disregard for their players goes.
I've played this game almost since the day it was released, but this is a truly the most appalling faux pas by you people. Shocking, truly shocking...
Applemacguy - you did well in first hour you were number 1 player in individual round than suddenly you disappeared
Anybody know why I can only get 10 gold coins per fight win/robbery and others players in the syndicate are getting 150?? How is that fair when we then get ranked, and prizes awarded on these points?
I'm level 210 and it makes no difference if I attack players at a higher level or lower level with stronger or weaker stats, I still only get 10 points maximum, often less. I now have 1200 points but other players in the syndicate have 46,000! Ridiculous!
I dont think this is correct... if anything its only a factor
I started off hitting 181 every time then it went lower, back up then lower.. its fluctuating between 110 and 190 and is has done that passed 300 attacks. I have gotten max 410 when robbing someone 50-60k over my level (failing every other though so result was avarage 205). when hitting level 210 with 30k defense I get around 70, thats the lowest
I'm fairly certain your progress in the Street Brawl goals is connected to how many points you get. Seems to increase each time you get to a new level. The other factor is your enemies stats-- when my 6 digit attack hits someone with a 5 digit attack, I get less than 100 points (though I can tell that between similar stat players, it's increased over time). The most points I've received was something like 490 from someone whose defense was 30k below my attack (this sort of attack is almost a coinflip for me). I haven't found too many people with stats close to mine, they're either way below mine or way above mine (FC/Indians/etc). The goal seems to be encouraging similar stat players to attack each other-- e.g. if you have a chance at losing = big points.
For what it's worth I've been getting just 20 coins since a few hours after the event started.
It doesn't matter whether the opponent's defence is 1/3 of my attack or is 10k more (I'm over 100k). Level doesn't affect it - 50 below or 10 above - no difference (I'm ~220). Fighting or robbing - the same. I've advanced through the brawl event without changes (now round 6).
Maybe it's something to do with the highest winning streak? Or maybe the game's bugged (surely not)? Either way I'm relying on my syndicate to get anything from the event!
-1 for gree! I too spent quite a bit on that event just to find out that others are getting it for free. And then when I do the same I get no additional modifier. THIS SHOULD BE CHANGED! I know it could be added in and it should. THIS HURTS THE PLAYERS YOU WANT THE MOST: THE GOLD BUYERS! What a terrible business move.
I didnt feel bad spending on the midas machine gun bc at least that stacked up as well.
This post is right on the money! Spot on.
I'm in the same boat as you. Been playing for almost 2 years. This is the worst (and there has been some pearlers) cock up Ive seen so far.
I have informed support about this issue till I'm blue in the face over the last 2 weeks. They knew about it. They clearly dont care.
Meantime players like me and you, who have been filling the gree coffers for almost 2 years are excluded from events because our games are broke.
Well done Gree. Really. Just... well done.
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I've played this game almost since the day it was released, but this is a truly the most appalling faux pas by you people. Shocking, truly shocking...[/QUOTE
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If this is how the next generation is going to do business, everyone should learn how to live on the land.
Hey, So I just left my syndicate to try and find a better one. When I join a new one will my points carry over or will they reset? I never enough thought of this before making the move haha.
I have a suggestion. How about a small unit or some small bonus for 1st 2nd and 3rd place per in each syndicate. That way web can compete against others in our syndicate
points in this event is by what rank the guy is so fighting a low lvl guy that is in a crap synidicate will give you xxx points where fighting someone in say fight club will give you xxx points. ask a few ppl in i fought to look it up and match the display screen they say
Gree well done you have managed to upset the majority of gold players in this game. Emails remain unanswered, you keep on making the new rewards bigger and better so the long term players rewards from the past mean nothing, Forum staff dont reply to simple requests, you change the gold bonus, many dont receive their gold, you ignore major glitches.
I suspect this game has little life in it because frankly you have managed to sqeeze the last bit out of it.
You could do a doctoriate on how bad this company has been to it's customers and what when brought was a good game that needed slight modification.
Mr Oz
So, I guess the moral of this story is stop wasting money on gold. Instead of placing countless tickets to Gree and creating millions of threads of how you spent so much gold, why take a moment and reflect how much of a noob you are for spending so much in the first place...
on the plus side, this new leaderboard is very good. It doesnt freeze up at all. I hope this leaderboard replaces the one in Syndicate war too, as it is much better.
1* : unplayable all can't beat
2* : no hood to rob
3* points are to low for low lvl or lvl 180, many can boost 50k in 10 min when other need 3 hours for make same amount.
that not a competition.
sry but this event is realy failed.
and what about the reverse prize ?
what about the car who i pay 3.000 Gold for 30% and u give it for free ? cuz all can get for free..
so if i make 3rd place next battle and spend over 15.000 Gold, are u going to give for free the same modifier ?
i'm not angry just disapointing like many who spend and see that...
i'm in a serious reflexion cuz if spend money don't give any advantage i don't see why continue to pay for have some items who other get for free..
no one forcing any of you spend you money
that not the problem.
Like everything else in the world vote with your wallet, if you don't like it stop spending the money. And if you still are going to then bend over and take it like a man.
Event ended, Syndicate prize wasn't distributed, still waiting for my other M-32 Thumper to add itself to my inventory.
EDIT: forget this just received the prize. The Thumper mods doesn't stack if you already have one :(
Well done Gree. I have always congratulated you on past efforts even though there have been some less than desirable outcomes, mainly in customer service and support BUT... you mean to tell me that there is NO WAY you could fix a broken rival list in 2 WEEKS!!! Yet, it still continues broken. Yet, you keep rolling out new content, one of which is a pvp tournament. It should never happen that some of your customer base knows more about the technical aspect of a product than the company that owns the product. Perhaps, you ought to consider hiring some of the players for the enginnering room. Just a thought!
If you have 2 of the same item (like the Executive Coupe) it won't stack with itself. If you have more than one item with the same bonus, it works like this:
The bonus is multiplicative rather than additive, that's why the combined amount is lower. There are diminishing returns on bonuses that "subtract" something because you can't ever actually hit 0 building upgrade cost or time, or get negative building time (although you can get close).
Here's an example:
If the original building upgrade cost is 100%, -30% means upgrade cost is now 70%. If you subtract another 30% of the 70% you get 49%.
Now if you subtract another 20% of the 49% you get 39.2%. Their upgrading cost should now be at 60.8%, and we round that to 61%
So why give out an Item that people payed money for then turn around and give it out for free with the screwup and not make it stack, my suggestion would be make it stack or give an invisible item to those who have it before. I realize it was a mistake but i would rather trade my 2nd coupe to get the 30% off. A&F is that even possible? I would even trade my pathmaker to in crease the pot.
It's not quite fair a&f... Either stack the items we paid gold for and now it's free or exchange for another 30% item like evidence burner or ill quit this game just like alot of us are doing!! Thank you
it was an obvious mistake,
they didn't want to give an item with modifier, they were just looking in their data to find an item in a specific range of stats and they found the coupe. They didn't check if it carries a modifier and that's it.
The problem is they did a mistake and they do nothing to correct it. They should change the code or change the item or do whatever is necesairy in order the item to work for all players no matter if you already have one in your inventory or not
Okay, now it's all clear to me. If this is the explanation for how bonuses stack with multiple units, then I really do understand why there are so many problems in the game. I was clear on the principle of how bonuses stack, since it's actually the same way that multiple discounts apply at a store or on any other purchase. But the conclusion here is exactly the opposite of what it should be: the actual upgrade cost given the calculations should be 39%, but the conclusion gets it a$$-backward and uses the "stacked" discount percentage as the cost percentage.
Yup, if you're doing exactly the opposite of what your own calculations tell you to do, then a lot of what happens in CC suddenly makes sense.
The point is that once you apply the first 30% to 100%, you get to 70%. The next stackable 30% modifier is applied to the already-reduced amount of 70%, not to the higher/full cost that's 100%. So you are not reducing 100 points by a full 60 points to get it down to 40 points (as in 40 percentage points of cost). The 2nd 30% reduction, applied to the already-reduced amount of 70% is 21% (because 30% of 70 is 21), as in 21 points out of 100, so the first 30% modifier gets you 30 points off the 100 full cost, but the 2nd 30% modifier reduces the 100 percentage points by another 21 points, not another 30 points. Otherwise we could reach zero cost or negative cost if we stacked 4 different 30% modifiers that would add up to 120% off.
Same goes for upgrade time, since they can't let us reach zero upgrade time.
A lot simpler to realize "30% off" means "70%", so you can take any of your upgrade costs and multiply it by 0.7.
And when you have multiple bonuses like that, e.g. 30% off twice, that's (upgrade cost) * 0.7 * 0.7 = (upgrade cost) * 0.49.
49% of the original cost, i.e. "51% off."