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Hey crazy, group hugs all around for everyone
Where have I attacked anyone dump? In addition, I did nothing but question further what Rob had to say. You constantly come here name calling anytime anyone doesn't agree with YOU, and that's fine in your book, but mere questions constitute an attack? Is it because we, in your eyes, have the gall to dare question anything of you, our gracious overlord and his chosen cabal? That is that attitude you display here, intended or not.
You are quite wrong about the history of no spenders being ridiculed, looked down upon, and belittled for not doing so. I did not say it was specifically by you or any others currently here for that matter. The fact that the number of spenders has been in steady decline for a very long time is why it's not seen like it once was, but it has occurred.
Of our two differing opinions, one has had an actual real world negative impact on the game, and one has had no impact. So which do you think is yours?
Reality is this, to us it's a game. To Gree, it's revenue. They don't care what we say, think, or feel. If money comes in, they're happy. If it doesn't, they get rid of MW. They don't fix it.
What everyone seems to have lost is the point from the op. Player bashing....
We all have the same hopes for the game, we all have ideas for making it better. But no company will care what we have to say while they profit. "STOP SPENDING THEN!!", you say. Haha, then say goodbye to MW. It's cheaper for them to dump it then hassle with the likes of us.
You like the game, great! You hate they game/company, great! But if someone posts a thread requesting info or help, we need to oblige them, not treat them like idiots for playing the game. After all, we all fall under that category. Don't we?
Every thread turns into a pissing match anymore, with everyone telling each other how they should think, spend, or whatever. This is why less positivity is here. Yes, many players have quit. But most are just sick of the garbage spewed here, so they chat and pass along info else where.
The game is not what it once was, we don't have much control over that (realistically). But we have, almost, complete control over what's posted here. Start with that and see where it leads....
You are right there JBS. But the fact is, when people ask for help, they do get it. At least as best as anyone here can provide it. Further, I don't recall it ever coming from the likes of dump, vega, brownout, or even Rob. But negativity towards the game aside, I can easily find that help coming from AO, DM, or any other multitude of complainers. Yes even groovy and dew, in his own cryptic way.
As I said earlier, people have tried going the GREE route to correct things. Now they are trying the player route. Not that the players are to blame, but to say the share none of the responsibility for the current situation is preposterous. While it may be a futile attempt, I'd rather see them trying to do something than sitting back and doing nothing to get GREE to change.
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Originally Posted by J-manKometh96
Again you have to get your diggs in. All the names you mentioned above have helped players with constructive answers. Both camps have helped people at some timeline in the history of this forum.
If you dont like the game then vote with the delete app button, many have! but stop with the constant put downs. You just sound like a bitter dude.
Its not big and its not clever.
It wasn't an attempt at a dig. If it were, there are others I would have mentioned, simply because they do have differing viewpoints than myself. I plainly don't recall any kind of help offered by any of them, but I will gladly edit my post for any you find that has done so four times in the last 6 months.
People disagree, so what?
Ultimately, THE GREE is gonna DEW what THE GREE wants to DEW.
Frankly, its none of my bitness, never was, never will be.
Bon chance to all.
Bonne chance à tous...
I think AO was right that we all want this game to be what it was, and I like him believe it is too far down the toilet. I still play gold free now with my faction. I chose to go free about 6 months ago because I saw where this game was heading. We all have opinions, none of them are right or wrong for the most part.
I enjoy reading posts from Dew, it is funny watching him and speed go bCk and forth as that is more entertaining than the game itself. I don't care how much anyone spends or doesn't spend, I don't understand why some still spend on this game but that's only my opinion.
I think tHis is a great discussion, hopefully gree can read what is being said and do something about it.
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Originally Posted by DEWIN NUTTIN
Boss be rite agin.
We likes the boss
I didn't say that there was no help given to anyone who asked. The problem is, when someone asks for help they have to sort through all the anti-gree, anti-spender bs to find the answers. Oh, and the "Here's the best advice you'll every get... Delete the app now!" crap. Those types of posts, and many of the threads that are on the forums nowadays (you could easily include this thread), need to be in the Off Topic section. This section is for "General" info and issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-manKometh96
I've played for over 2 yrs, been top 1500 right on up to top 25. Now comfortably resting in the top 200 range. Myself, like many others, have all but given up on the forums. They used to be full of info and there was, mostly, respectful communication between players and mods. And people made a much better attempt to stay on topic when posting within threads. Now, it's everyone standing on their soap box calling for boycotts or claiming so and so are cheaters.
In the end, this is nothing more than entertainment. You get what you pay/play for. There's no victory to be won. Whatever happens in this game, or on the forums, has no significant impact on anything. If you feel slighted because you've paid real money to play this game, which I have also, then your thought process needs to adjust a little. Whether it's MW, CoC, or any other app game, it's money wasted. We do what we do because that's what we chose. This thread is just asking all of us to more civilized about it.
And as far as the names you mentioned that don't help.... Check the history bud. They all have have helped numerous times in the past. Seriously, there's a ton of threads here dating all the way back to the beginning.
I said I don't recall any, not that it wasn't the case, and that I would gladly edit my post should someone actually show otherwise. I did however just go back through the first six pages of threads, which dates back about a month, and of all the threads asking for help about something that wasn't a plea for GREE to fix a long known issue, I only found cases where help was offered without any of this so called negativity we are told exists. Threads btw, that none of those I mentioned above as not helping actually participated in.
To be fair, there were very few of those types of threads. For the most part, it's as I've said all along. There are no new players to the game, so everyone pretty much knows what there is to know, so all that's left is to discuss the issues GREE won't correct. And as I also said before, in this thread even, as goes the game, so goes the forum. If the game is in a sad state of being, so it will be in the forum. If the game takes an upswing, so will the forum. It's not rocket science or brain surgery or some sort of mystic magic.
I can't imagine any "new" players downloading this game after reading a few of the reviews in the store. The only new players are current players that recently upgraded their phones or tablets, then started a new account. So they already know what the future holds. lol
The "Hate Mob", a nice term for people complaining about how the game has failed in so many ways. If you must use a label; try to show some respect for other people. No one forces anyone to post here, read anything, or respond to another persons position/opinion. The people who manage this game care about one thing only....
I apologize for my for my incendiary posts. This is a known issue, and is being looked into. A fix in my programming will be in an upcoming update. My CPU is a neuro-net processor, a learning computer. The more time I spend in the GREE, the more I learn.
Hasta la vista, Baby
Be careful groovy. We all know the next update will not only fail to address your neural net programming, but introduce a new issue as well. You might want to turn auto-update off and let others test it before trying it.
I used to buy half gallon ice cream and it was good. Then they downsized it to three-quarters of a half gallon. I still buy 3/4 of a half gallon of ice cream and it is still good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danger Mouse
And if it was frozen milk they tried to pass off as ice cream?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mila Relyt
But isn't ice cream just frozen milk ?
Directions....
In a medium bowl, stir together cold milk, vanilla, condensed milk and salt. Beat with an electric mixer until stiff peaks form. ...
Pour into shallow 2 quart dish, cover and freeze for 4 hours, stirring once after 2 hours or when edges start to harden.
As you've posted, no it ain't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vegaman
I actually think "Hate Mob" is spot on. When all your posts are negative and you rant on and on about how you hate the game now and what it has become since whatever date you started what other term would be appropriate. We aren't throwing everyone who complains about an issue into that group. If you play the game, you've ran into glitches and posted about it - I do it also. But there are those who are relentless.
I've been playing for 3 1/2 years and I don't think that much in the game has changed. Stat inflation - always been here, always gets worse. Bugs - ditto. New events have been tried, some dropped, some kept, some evolve. Big spenders - known a lot of them. Gold free players - know a lot of them also.
I'm in a top 100 faction, 50-60 people who like to play and we do our part. We complain about some events and look forward to others. Everyone has preferences. I like RBE and EB but don't like WD. Others are the opposite. But we still participate in all events because we work as a team. And if the leader says pass on an event, we do what he says. If he tells me to hit the wall, I do it and don't worry about points. It's a simulated war game and works best with a chain of command.
What has changed is customer service and the attitude on the forum. Customer service used to work. I only turned in 2 problem tickets and that has been a while, but the issues were resolved in a few days. Sadly, that's not working now. And the attitude here has gone sour with a few people leading the charge. There's very little knowledge exchange now. If you post a question someone is sure to tell you to quit playing before you waste too much time and energy - and money. For every positive post there are ten negative posts. Usually by the same people.
I don't understand why Gree allows it. If you came into my house and started complaining about it I'd boot your butt right out the door. Constructive criticism is ok, destructive attacks should never be allowed.
Spot on Helios. The same issues have pretty much always existed, they're not new. We all wish for different, but if anyone expects big changes at this point in time, they really havnt been paying attention. Customer service was never great, but has certainly lost a lot since CJs time there.
6 pages out of 828 justifies what? Sorry to seem rude, that's not my intention. I would be willing to show you the threads that you're asking about, but to Necro a thread is a violation of the TOS. But, they are there. When issues that were new to me would arise, I would search through the threads to see if there was related issues in the past. And as other players have posted, these issues are not new. I just took the time to educate myself before I assumed I had a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-manKometh96
As far as new players go, there is plenty. Most end up in a faction that uses a chat app. With that chat app, they learn more about the game then they can here, anymore. The forum is failing because most of us are tired of the same banter that has existed for some time now, and doesn't seem to be ending any time soon. I'm actually surprised in myself for getting caught up in this debate with you. Not that I don't respect your opinion, or you. Because I don't know you, so I don't judge. But, because these are the types of discussions that have personally turned me away from the forums. So I no longer direct new players to the forum.
The game changed when Gree bought it. Since then, the basic structure and play of the game hasn't change much, if at all. Spend or fall behind is Gree's message. It's up to you, if you decide to keep playing the game, to find a faction that is comfortable for your level of play. Once that happens you can kick back, relax, and enjoy yourself. Because if you can't enjoy it, you're wasting a lot more than just money.
In your post you are clearly stating that the quality of the ice cream remained the same.......good........as oppose to MW, which quality keep going non stop downward less and less qualityQuote:
Originally Posted by Mila Relyt
you cannot compare your ice cream to MW that way
now, lets say you buy the same ice cream you love..........then go home and find out that it is already expire, thus the quality is bad, would you still eat it? or would you take it back and ask for a good one...................and what would you do if when you try to return/exchage it, the store says, sorry all sales finals and no return/exchange allow, you should had read the expiration date before your bought it........................would you then keep buying at that store???
Join us to DEW NUTTIN or to hide out. 755561702 Free, safe, secure shelter & asylum for all who seek it, no questions asked. We DEW what we want, when we want, if we want! IS THIS A REAL FACTION OR JUST A JOKE?
JB, I only got 6 pages into it due to time constraints. You bring up a good point in the chat apps though. I'd bet that if you take a really good look, you'd see a definite correlation to the start of the forum decline not long after the chat apps became the standard for faction communication. I know once we started using one, we went from a bunch of members that would frequent here to just one or two that would then relay any info from here back to the group. But even in the chat apps, the game talk is declining because there honestly is very little to discuss anymore. I can't tell you the last time I saw anyone that wasn't a 2+ year player in any of them. But I count daily the number of people leaving various groups and retiring. The only two things that can bring change to the forum are to either fix the game or kill the game. Give people something good to talk about, and they will post more positively. Give them bad things to talk about and they will post more negatively.
Hell, I'd even be willing to put my money where my mouth is in this little debate (switching things away from you now JB to the top guns here). You come up with a list of whoever you want and they won't post a single negative comment for a whole cycle. In exchange, the top 3 teams go gold free, refill free for a cycle. No purchases, no using what's on hand. It's been made very clear in this thread there is no need to convince hundreds of players of this, merely 1 from each team.
Truth, this is the same game we've had all along. You're just tired of the same old thing is all. Your memories of the golden days must have been made fuzzy some what by the time, and the fact that when the game was newer, you were more willing to deal with the issues to play it. We all were.
Just when I think I have seen it all from you. You take it to another level. Number 1!Quote:
Originally Posted by Speed ump
We all know that the "Hate Mob" will always find reasons to complain no matter what.
My theory is, they've grown tired of the game and now they find more enjoyment in trolling this forum.
The day this game becomes no longer fun, l'll just move on to something else. No need to be a glutton for punishment and ruin everyone else's good time.
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Yes, its always been freemium, but never to this level as we see today
ham, you really don't seem to like it when someone outside the negativity group posts something. It's true, the game really is not much different or worse today than it was a year ago, two years ago, or even three. We have always had glitches and bugs. We don't have anywhere near the hacking that we used to, so in a way, it's improved. Do you remeber a day when customer service was great? I sure don't. Many of these issues we all put up with beacsue we derived more entertainment ( however you want to define that) now doing the same thing for over three years with he same poor customer service, it's outgrown its entertainment value for many. Even people who participate in a hobby the really enjoy give it up at some point. Sometimes they're just ready to move on to other endeavors, maybe they no longer want to spend the time, or put forth the effort, they acheived what they wanted possibly. Even when glitches and poor customer service isn't the issue. So how is that over the top, another level? Because it came from me? Appears so.
You're right speedie, there have always been issues, and we always put up with them. Why?, because the game was fun, challenging and REWARDING. Now, it's a grind spendfest to get anything at all of any significance to game play. Look back through your boost units, or if you want to be an uber geek, plot attack/defence stats vs bonus in any category you care to mention. Taking a/d stats as a proxy for time in the game (low a/d early in the game, high a/d later in the game) and you will see an exponential decay in the quality of bonuses awarded, yet cost to complete challenges to get said units for the average player has gone through the roof because the bonuses now are only available in the top tier of rewards compared to what tiers gave them out early in the peace. We are slowly but surely feeling the gree screw, frogs in the pot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speed ump
and as for always having cruddy customer service..... When was the last time Gree gave out a free loyalty bonus to all players to compensate for foul-ups, or even reward milestones in the game?? Most Newbie players here wouldn't even know there was a time when that happened fairly often. Now, we just take the screw ups as part of the game and even in some cases spend more to compensate for their effect so we don't miss out on those deflated rewards.
Crazy state of affairs.
After the amount of screw ups in a single cycle had them giving out about half a vault, gold was never given again. But at least I was able to finally get my Composite.
Less people post, because there simply isn't any new info to get out of this forum - it has become irrelevant. I'm relatively new to this game compared to those who seem to be playing for years, but at least last few cycles it's been all same patterns you learn and what's point on coming here anymore other than if you "dew nuttin" in life but post here lol
:rolleyes:
We get a lot of info from our faction chat groups. But sometimes we just get the " no posts in the forum" when inquiring. The forum is widely read. But you need to have some thick skin to post on it. Because simple questions draw the "what - are you stupid" response. Ask about an event and 80 percent of the posts will be bashing the event, Gree, big spenders for ruining the event and predictions of when the lights will go out. By people who claim they don't do the events or ex-players.
That's the part that amazes me, why do you hamg out in the forum if you aren't playing the game anymore? And do your posts become more numerous and spiteful when your credit card bill arrives?
It's hilarious sitting back and reading all the posts defending how it's a persons right to spend thousands of dollars and hours on a pointless activity like online gaming while at the same time questioning why anyone would spend anytime whatsoever on a free activity like online forums. Too funny.
Well, a person can do whatever they choose with their life. I don't understand why someone would devote their entire life to an all-seeing, all-knowing deity that can't be proven or disproven. But it is their right to do so. Why would someone choose to buy a car that costs more than my house? But I see several of them every morning on the way to work.
To quote Abbie Hoffman, "Don't worry about what other people do. When you do, you wind up doing their thing, not yours. Do your own thing".
Then why worry about who posts and why? Do your own thing. SimpleQuote:
Originally Posted by Helios Von Elisar
Posting is a choice, my choice, so my thing. And I happen to agree with the topic of this thread.
I would prefer to come here to talk about the game, not how much someone hates the game, or the principle behind the game, or the company behind the game or those who work for the company. But that is hard to do because of the hate mob.
Bugs have always been here. And in other games I've tried - it's not just Gree. So no comebacks about how you have to talk about the glitches. There is a positive side to everything and there are those who can't or won't see it.