[Feedback] Street Assault

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Originally Posted by Nighteg

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2) Cash items should be much more expensive. Especially the top unit. (I'd say x100). No point in a top and cheaper units, if everyone can afford the top.

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I have no problem with making a stronger, more expensive weapon. But your claim that "everyone" can buy the current top weapon is not accurate. My main account could afford them, but my mini could not. And since the less expensive weapons / deploys were SO weak, there was no point in even playing the event with my mini's account. So, sure, by all means, make a super strong, VERY expensive weapon...but you also have to include some less expensive weapons that actually do SOME damage -- unless you just want to play only with other long time players. Leaving the newer, low iph players with no options, and you won't have them to play with / against. Not even to beat up on...which doesn't really sound like any fun anyway.

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Originally Posted by Weasel

Cost of the cash units this first run was too cheap. When the items are so easily affordable having more than one option just clutters the UI with unnecessary buttons to be avoided. For this reason the three cash units need to have significant price differences, and unfortunately for some players, that means the best item may not be affordable to them at this time. That does not mean the whole event breaks! Players can work on their hood economy stats just the same as they can work on their attack and defence stats. Players who don't have a strong enough attack/defence can't easily play with the top teams in any attack/defence based event, and similarly, players who do not have a strong enough income stat should not be easily competing with the strongest economies in the game in the "IPH based" Street Assault event.

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Same response to this, with more detail. Sure, the lower iph players should NOT be able to compete with the high iph players. No one suggests that. however, the top unit this last war (100 bikes for $6 mil game cash) may sound SUPER cheap to you...but to new players just starting the game -- even those who have played 2-3 months, can't play the event AT ALL. Never mind competing with the folks who have dedicated 3 years to the game. Raising the price even higher would just make the event even MORE for long time / high iph players only.

Again, I say go ahead and add a much stronger, much more expensive item. But also leave something affordable (and somewhat meaningful) for newer players too.

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Originally Posted by Morgz

I have no problem with making a stronger, more expensive weapon. But your claim that "everyone" can buy the current top weapon is not accurate. My main account could afford them, but my mini could not. And since the less expensive weapons / deploys were SO weak, there was no point in even playing the event with my mini's account. So, sure, by all means, make a super strong, VERY expensive weapon...but you also have to include some less expensive weapons that actually do SOME damage -- unless you just want to play only with other long time players. Leaving the newer, low iph players with no options, and you won't have them to play with / against. Not even to beat up on...which doesn't really sound like any fun anyway.

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If this event is actually supposed/meant to be an IPH event, new/low iph players should not be expecting to by default have the ability to compete with more experienced/higher iph players. As with attack and defence stats, you have to build your income stat over time (and/or with gold) if you want to compete with players that have an income stronger than yours.

The claim that "everyone" could afford the best cash unit was not meant literally. It was meant to illustrate the point that someone who makes $1 million per hour could afford the best unit and compete at the same level as someone whose income stat is fifty or even one hundred times stronger. Would people who have 100m attack/defence be happy about a decision enabling players with 1m attack/defence to compete at the same level? Why invest all the required time (and possibly real money) to build your stats if it the same results can be achieved with virtually no time or any other form of effort?

For goodness sakes, Tadaah. Learn how to moderate an internet forum. Just because people don't reply in your thread, you have to close it?

Plenty of GREAT responses in the poll thread you are to egotistical to allow to stay open. If anyone wants to read REAL opinions, both good and bad, read the thread here: http://forums.gree.net/showthread.ph...ccurring-Event

Go ahead and edit or delete this post, Tadaah. I'm sure you don't agree with it either. *rolleyes*

Enjoy your thread.

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Originally Posted by Morgz

For goodness sakes, Tadaah. Learn how to moderate an internet forum. Just because people don't reply in your thread, you have to close it?

Plenty of GREAT responses in the poll thread you are to egotistical to allow to stay open. If anyone wants to read REAL opinions, both good and bad, read the thread here: http://forums.gree.net/showthread.ph...ccurring-Event

Go ahead and edit or delete this post, Tadaah. I'm sure you don't agree with it either. *rolleyes*

Enjoy your thread.

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Originally Posted by Weasel

If this event is actually supposed/meant to be an IPH event, new/low iph players should not be expecting to by default have the ability to compete with more experienced/higher iph players. As with attack and defence stats, you have to build your income stat over time (and/or with gold) if you want to compete with players that have an income stronger than yours.

The claim that "everyone" could afford the best cash unit was not meant literally. It was meant to illustrate the point that someone who makes $1 million per hour could afford the best unit and compete at the same level as someone whose income stat is fifty or even one hundred times stronger. Would people who have 100m attack/defence be happy about a decision enabling players with 1m attack/defence to compete at the same level? Why invest all the required time (and possibly real money) to build your stats if it the same results can be achieved with virtually no time or any other form of effort?

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I don't disagree with that. I'm just saying if you raise the weapon price without leaving something meaningful for new players, you are pretty much making it an event for old timers who built their hoods. I AM that player with $1mil iph and I don't expect for a second to be able to play on the same level as someone with $20 mil iph. However, I would like to at least have the option to play. NOt compete with high iph players, just play. I started a second account 6 weeks ago, and been building it's iph, but it's still less than $100k right now. I couldn't play the event at all with that account.

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Originally Posted by Tadaaah

Don't worry. We are still reading the post that are in that thread as well. We are redirecting posts here to help gather as much feedback as possible in one place.

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You can do that by posting a link and asking people to post here. You don't have to close the entire thread. you just squashed entire conversation and a great poll.

Hey guys,

We didn't get very many reports about the issues with chat over the weekend. Can y'all give us some more details on this? Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Tadaaah

Hey guys,

We didn't get very many reports about the issues with chat over the weekend. Can y'all give us some more details on this? Thanks!

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The only issue I had with the chat was that it was very slow. It also seems like wasted resources for Gree. Most players who participate actively within their syndicates are already using third party chat apps and have been since syndicates were introduced to the game. As far as adding a chat feature to CC, Gree is at least 18 months too late for there to be any point in doing that now.

IMO, scrap the chat, don't waste any more resources (time, staff, etc.) on it, and reassign the individuals responsible for the chat feature to more important tasks, whatever those may be.

Each event emphasizes an aspect of your game that needs improvement. Bosses based on raw stats. War based on mods and syn mods. Sltq/ltq bases on energy you have. This event forces you to improve your IPH period. If a new player and understand strategy you need to be a complete player

Gree wants as many syns to be bonus full as possible or close to it. It has been lowering IPH requirements for ltb so low IPH players can invest in ltbs for IPH and mods.

If you don't have what it takes for war, boss etc you boost your stats and move to higher syns. If you don't have IPH you build it up. You can rob as we as we all do but you can't rob yourself to get cash you need for syn and SA. Gree wants you to work on it

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Originally Posted by Morgz

Same response to this, with more detail. Sure, the lower iph players should NOT be able to compete with the high iph players. No one suggests that. however, the top unit this last war (100 bikes for $6 mil game cash) may sound SUPER cheap to you...but to new players just starting the game -- even those who have played 2-3 months, can't play the event AT ALL. Never mind competing with the folks who have dedicated 3 years to the game. Raising the price even higher would just make the event even MORE for long time / high iph players only.

Again, I say go ahead and add a much stronger, much more expensive item. But also leave something affordable (and somewhat meaningful) for newer players too.

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Originally Posted by Vile Lynn

You probably didn't get many reports because players didn't care to use the chat feature... It wasn't vital.

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I didn't use the chat feature because I was warned by MW players that it would likely crash the game. They were correct.

1. It would not be active when you go into battle. Had to go out of event or restart app.
2. It would crash often. Sometimes both chats or just syn/group etc. No based on activity either
3. You would get a new message indicator for group or syn and no new message
4. Yes it is useful. More at beginning of battles (for peeps checking app and getting off quickly). Also at end when many syns go for last minutes deploys where jumping back and forth on 3rd party apps takes away from battles

You won't get a lot of tickets of complaints of event...most players were either feed up, dealt with problems, or knew standard response. It frankly is better to talk about generic issues on this forum via your feedback threads.

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Originally Posted by Tadaaah

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Originally Posted by cooch

Each event emphasizes an aspect of your game that needs improvement. Bosses based on raw stats. War based on mods and syn mods. Sltq/ltq bases on energy you have. This event forces you to improve your IPH period. If a new player and understand strategy you need to be a complete player

Gree wants as many syns to be bonus full as possible or close to it. It has been lowering IPH requirements for ltb so low IPH players can invest in ltbs for IPH and mods.

If you don't have what it takes for war, boss etc you boost your stats and move to higher syns. If you don't have IPH you build it up. You can rob as we as we all do but you can't rob yourself to get cash you need for syn and SA. Gree wants you to work on it

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That's all fine and correct. Again, not really the point. Of course low IPH players need to work on their IPH. Of course low stat players need to up their stats. The point I'm trying to make is to be able to play that event at all, they need to leave some less expensive weapons that have some meaning (no, not the SAME power as strong weapons, but some useful power). Otherwise, it's an event for long time players with high iph. And if the latter is the case, that's fine too...but then Gree should just say so. "this is an event designed for players who played long enough to have a high IPH". I don't think Gree wants to exclude groups of players though. And I also don't think that high IPH players want to play ONLY with other other high IPH players.

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Originally Posted by Morgz

The point I'm trying to make is to be able to play that event at all, they need to leave some less expensive weapons that have some meaning (no, not the SAME power as strong weapons, but some useful power).

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They do have less expensive units with some meaning. I think the issue which might be of concern to you and that you may be overlooking is the matching system. None of the less expensive units mean anything when those who can only afford the low cost units are matched against syndicates that are using only the most powerful units. In that case, it's not anyone's fault their contributions of low cost units become meaningless. It's the fact that they were matched against syndicates they had no chance of defeating to start with that makes the low cost units meaningless.

Quite correct. Thx. Event is based on gold players or those that will spend gold to pay for game. If the event kills ability for lower syns as in war understand they can't make money and pay bills by making it achievable and enjoyable for free players. That's how free players become gold. Or free players learn to play within their means. Or they quit

Saw many players with lousy stats like 5-7 figure stats and IPH under 1 mill that got elite SA prize when RL was messed up. So obviously u can do well free and even with matchup system

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Originally Posted by Weasel

They do have less expensive units with some meaning. I think the issue which might be of concern to you and that you may be overlooking is the matching system. None of the less expensive units mean anything
when those who can only afford the low cost units are matched against syndicates that are using only the most powerful units. In that case, it's not anyone's fault their contributions of low cost units become meaningless. It's the fact that they were matched against syndicates they had no chance of defeating to start with that makes the low cost units meaningless.

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Originally Posted by b-w

also the down for maintenance at the end was no fun

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I wish I had a vault for each time I've posted this!

Once more, there was no maintenance. It's a glitch - exit game, restart, all working again. You're welcome :)

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Originally Posted by Weasel

They do have less expensive units with some meaning.

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Again, I agree. My whole string of comments was in reply to Nightleg's post

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" Cash items should be much more expensive. Especially the top unit. (I'd say x100). No point in a top and cheaper units, if everyone can afford the top."

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I took that to be a suggestion to remove the lower units, and raise the price of top units. Apologies if I misunderstood. But if that was the original intent, then I think that move would be a mistake.

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Originally Posted by Weasel

I think the issue which might be of concern to you and that you may be overlooking is the matching system. None of the less expensive units mean anything when those who can only afford the low cost units are matched against syndicates that are using only the most powerful units. In that case, it's not anyone's fault their contributions of low cost units become meaningless. It's the fact that they were matched against syndicates they had no chance of defeating to start with that makes the low cost units meaningless.

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And yes I totally agree with you on your point about the matching system. My main account plays in a top 100 syndicate. I can afford the top units there. However, if I could not (like in my mini's case, which is not in that syndicate). I choose to keep that mini account a lower ranked syndicate. They are matched with similar opponents, and playing the cheaper weapons does have some effect there. So in that's case it's my choice to keep that account there, where it can play. But if those lower units were completely removed from the event, or pricing raised out of range, then that account could not play at all.

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Originally Posted by Morgz

I took that to be a suggestion to remove the lower units, and raise the price of top units. Apologies if I misunderstood. But if that was the original intent, then I think that move would be a mistake.

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Not sure what you mean by "remove the lower units". To leave only the Comet? I never suggested that.

I guess I miss understood your post, Nightleg. I thought you were saying to ONLY have 1 powerful unit available (meaning no other less expensive & weaker options), and to make that 1 more expensive. Sorry for the confusion.

Tadaaah, there is a lot of feedback from the first SA posted above.

Could you please ask the developers asap and post info about any changes to SA before the event goes live?
If no changes, please post too.

Thanks!

Edit: No thanks for ignoring our feedback.

Well the event starts tomorow and no news about changes.!!!!!

SA begins today...

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Gree, don't waste our time (or yours) asking for feedback. You clearly do not care what the player experience is. This event is officially NOT FUN the way you monkeys have it set up. Take it back and either toss it straight down the sh!tter or use at least one brain for a change and make the necessary improvements.

Very disappointed in the "changes"

It's now really just a tap fest. No real strategy other than who can spend more in game cash, and time their taps for last 2 minutes better. No thanks.

Please fix popup results after battle. I got it only 2-3 times of 10 wars(android)
Chat still problems

I only get pop up if I am not battling last few minutes. Which is almost always, therefore no results.

Not once have I ever gotten a result splash screen (android)...I have been active in almost every 'push' by my syndicate. Why does android not get results screens? Accountability and lack there of is one of the worst things about this game.

Winners lists? Any winners list?

#Results4us

Androids also don't show individual placing. But that was there the last SA. Bugs? Feedback? Who cares! Let's release it again without fixing anything!

need to sort the server problems five minutes plus to declare battles is too long.

Take your feedback and shove it up your GREE! :mad:

Thought you want our feedback, but the event was still crap!!!!!

30min war, joke
12m for 4k units, joke
deploy speed of units, joke
deploy regen time 5min, joke

-->> as you can see, the event is a joke only!!! You should erase it.

I was not amused.

I do not like this event at all. The fact that your individual stats mean nothing is not ok.

I would prefer a PvP tournament.

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Originally Posted by colec023

I do not like this event at all. The fact that your individual stats mean nothing is not ok.

I would prefer a PvP tournament.

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Except PVP is now pointless with the way they keep altering the rival list. Now you either have ppl with close to twice your stats that you can't touch, or ppl with half your stats, and nothing to take. They have (at least for now) completely removed the PVP aspect of the game for me.

I agree with what Morgz said. Ever since the rivals list crashed and they redid it...it is worthless. Either players in the 200mil+ range that I can't touch or players in the 50mil range who have awful IPH and nothing to rob 😐

Overall this is a fun event but weve had it twice now, and both times the chat was rediculous and as for the regen time. The MW version of this plays so much better. Hopefully the minor issues can be fixed.