To everyone mad about wasting energy prestaging...

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Originally Posted by King Dante!

You have a bit too much estrogen flowing through your blood at the moment.. take a break from the computer, change your tampon, and come back when you can speak to me like a man.

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I wonder. If this were an ethnic or racial reference, how many people would see it as racist? On the other hand, you basically just called him a girl/woman- and meant it as derogatory. That makes this a pretty sexist remark. Way not cool. Especially since you guys are a bunch of guys sitting around whining and/or complaining about the game and shooting insults at each other. I'm just sayin.

For the record, this topic is no different than if you look back months- or even years. Those of us that have played the game since it started are well aware that there have been prestaging "erases" since the introduction of LTEs. Gree changes things without telling us all the time. That is not different. And CDR Shepard is right- people seem entitled when glitches go in their favor (e.g. The last faction LTE glitch that let many finish in under an hour).

All in all take heart. I was in the last generation of whiners and/or complainers (and did my fair share, estrogen and all) and I guarantee this: when you guys give it up (either the whining or the game) you can be certain that once you are tired of complaining there will be the next generation that will take up the torch. Every time I decide to come back here (I was once pretty active on these forums) it's the same stuff, different players.

Some things are very predictable.

So....why don't we all just quit? In mass and spend our time doing something else.

Very quickly because I don't want to spend to much time on this bull**** game anymore; gree...you can go and **** yourself !!!!

Seen their comment on it?

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...-of-Elite-NPCs

"There was nothing to indicate in the game to indicate that they would be used in the future."

You had the chance to tell us. And as you do some MANY updates you COULD have deleted them earlier.

I just wanted to add my (and the 33 guys/gals in my team) frustrations to this thread.

Reading the comments above it is clear that people have different viewpoints ITHO. :)

Is pre-staging, as is being described by some, effectively 'cheating' or is it simply an established part of the game, available for any and all players to do? I can't see how that is an exploit, rather a strategic or tactical decision whether to do it or not. It's not a glitch or a hack, so I think calling it an 'exploit' is wide of the mark. Exploit implies some kind of dishonest act or less than moral approach. I can't see how pre staging can be classed as such. I personally don't think you could even describe it as gaining an upper hand. Again, players choose to pre-stage or not. Just because one person chooses to, doesn't make them a cheat, or trying to game the system. It's just part of the game, and remember, you gain a shed load of XP in the process, so you have to make an informed decision whether to pre stage or not. That's my view anyway.

GREE knows that most players pre-stage and it's never been a problem. They figured out ways of changing it up to keep us on our toes, fair enough. They introduced the Faction Limited Time event which I thought was great, something new, etc. Good job GREE.

However, and coming to the point, pulling the targets that many, many people will have pre staged without any explanation, heads up, etc is total rubbish. If these targets were never going to be used again, pull them from the maps the day after the last event finished. Don't leave them sitting around for a couple of weeks knowing that people will waste energy, gain XP, etc. trying to pre stage them. That is a crass decision which shows utter contempt for a loyal customer base. GREE seems hell bent on annoying it's customers. Sure, we can all quit, go do something else. But most of us don't want to quit. We enjoy this game, for all it's faults, and want to see it improve, not just walk away from it.

GREE knew people would pre stage those targets. GREE knew that some people may have used gold to pre stage those targets (not me though). Moving the goal posts without a word of warning.....

.....now that's real "exploitation"....

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Originally Posted by King Dante!

exploit
vb [ɪkˈsplɔɪt] (tr)
1. to take advantage of (a person, situation, etc.), esp unethically or unjustly for one's own ends

Regardless how you define exploit... "prestaging" is a way to "take advantage of a situation unjustly for one's own ends"

So while I respect your opinion, I completely disagree. Prestaging is an exploit. It allows players to complete LTQ events in ways not intended by it's developer, Gree.

but thanks for your input.

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you only show up do defend gree, so what should we think of that, your little boyfriend below does the same thing... you don't respect other opinions you just try to belittle people into thinking the way you do. maybe you should stop thinking like a gree empolyee and understand where the common person is coming from... you talk about not complaining, but make several threads saying you don't care.......seems to me like you care but the crown? makes you better than us? you are a fool who either plays the game for free or gets it paid for you.

either way take your crown and F off

you think you could take the woman i know, you tool
you don't have a wife
if your in high school you will become an alcoholic
of you in college you already a drunk
if your married you beat your wife
my message to you is get your head out of your arse and man up your acting like a little girl

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Originally Posted by King Dante!

If they removed the targets right after the last LTQ, then people would of just prestaged those targets.... derp.

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Care to explain how exactly you prestige targets after they are removed?

Wouldn't that be pointless even if it where possible?

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Originally Posted by King Dante!

You have a bit too much estrogen flowing through your blood at the moment.. take a break from the computer, change your tampon, and come back when you can speak to me like a man.

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Originally Posted by KFH

you think you could take the woman i know, you tool
you don't have a wife
if your in high school you will become an alcoholic
of you in college you already a drunk
if your married you beat your wife
my message to you is get your head out of your arse and man up your acting like a little girl

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Look buddy, you f*cked up with the sexist comment, btw I've probably been playing this game alot longer than you have and dealing with the stupid actions that Gree has made with attempting to turn around this game. You pissed me off with your littile bull**** comment. You also f*cked up and pissed off all the women that are on this forum.

Oh yea, and still waiting for a retarded response.

To whom ever thinks that I am posting BS; No, Im not just some random guy that comes here to post threads saying how pissed off I am, I just trying to help with all the spreadsheet by giving Boss and LTQ prizes and walkthroughs. Also I do admit to barking at stupid people posting stupid comments, Im truly sorry.

I am happy they stopped the advantage of prestaging. Now everyone is on the same level as far as LTQ and I don't have to think about them.

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Originally Posted by thundarr

I am happy they stopped the advantage of prestaging. Now everyone is on the same level as far as LTQ and I don't have to think about them.

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How exactly do you figure that out ?

Every player has a different energy level. Every player has a different amount of disposable income for buying gold. So how you can say that getting rid of pre staging somehow 'levels the playing field' is somewhat misguided.

If someone wanted to take the time to log in very few hours and use some strategy in preparation for a challenge, then that's their business. There's nothing stopping any player doing that. But coming out with such a nonsensical statement, especially from one so experienced, seems a tad bizarre. Oh well, what do I know, I'm new around here....comparatively speaking.

Okay so Gree changed the rules, what they add they can take away.. I lost a lot of prestaged missions but He Ho... You take what they do and adapt.. For months l built a faction to be able to compete.. Then they introduced streak goals... I have quit my faction and am now focusing on this with a few select friends.. Much less stress and non of the big faction problems... This gives issues with faction LTQ's but you cannot have everything... They will change again and we adapt again.. Anyone who lost gold prestaging is lying... or stupid... Prestaging was always a gamble you never knew which targets would come up ...

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Originally Posted by thundarr

I am happy they stopped the advantage of prestaging. Now everyone is on the same level as far as LTQ and I don't have to think about them.

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They haven't ended anything. They removed the targets from the previous FLTQ which they left on the maps for 6 days following the end of the event. The issued a lame excuse about not being able to remove them sooner because the only way it can be done is with a "deploy" and they can only do a few of those a week. I'm sorry, how many updates pushed through my device or were made available since the end of the last FLTQ?. At the same time they added new targets. People are currently staging the new targets.
I've never seen any type of statement from gree about them not wanting people to stage targets. If there is one I would really like to see it. If they truly did not want people to stage the targets they would not "deploy" them until the event starts. That is well within their power but they have yet to do it. Essentially what they have done is reduce the amount of time a faction has to stage targets thereby increasing the likelihood that any faction that wishes to complete the mission will have to purchase gold to do so.

Why do you waste your time thinking about where other people are in the process of staging?

The Troll got bant.

Prestaging can never be considered an exploit for the simple fact that any mission/target unlocked to a player is free to be worked at any time a player chooses. If GREE did not like the practice then the obvious solution is to make those targets available only at the start of an event. If you can Troll you should at least avoid being an idiot.

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Originally Posted by PlayingCraze

I heard that there are exploits to the game to get more energy? Is that even true?

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Move along people, nothing to see here.

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Originally Posted by Mastert5566

I apologize to everyone for my insensitive and vulgar language. I am coming out and saying this to you now through a new account to apologize if anyone took offense to my harsh and very explicit comments. Also, sorry King Dante, we both got screwed here:(

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It's cool bro.. water under the bridge.

First of all.. Dante... The sexist comment... Well f.... You for that one..
Second...
Gree getting rid of the prestaging.. no suprise there. Was bound to happen sooner or later.
They're trying to make money, and this way they will gain a little more. It's still possible for everyone to finish the normal one without the use of gold. For prestige you need to spend, but that has always been the case, prestaging or not. I also prepped the maps as far as possible so I'm not happy either, but you all can't be suprised they did this. I don't see prepping as an exploit or glitch.. cause gree has been Wel, well aware of this for a very very long time, and it would have been easy for them changing this.
I'm not pissed of they changed the game a little. However I am pissed off about the fact that they first let so many players use their energy and xp on something and then a few hours before the event starts change everything the way they did. They could have done this right after the previous ltq. and just enter the new targets a short time before the start of the new event. Then they would have played a fair game. And would have saved out a lot of complaints.

I just want to slap you right through the computer! you suck up ass kisser!

Ok guys...don't beat me up too bad. But I have only been playing for a couple months now and have no idea what these prestaging threads are about? Let alone fighting the bosses? Could you please explain what prestaging is? I think it has to do something with the maps???

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Originally Posted by Jahnkman

Ok guys...don't beat me up too bad. But I have only been playing for a couple months now and have no idea what these prestaging threads are about? Let alone fighting the bosses? Could you please explain what prestaging is? I think it has to do something with the maps???

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Best advice: don't even worry about it or waste your time with it. Search the forums, there are many useful threads already created for newbies. Use key words and you should be able to find everything you seek. Sorry I am not specific, there is just much you need to learn about and those would be your most useful guides.