So a two elements armor gets double bonus?
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So a two elements armor gets double bonus?
Yes they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erfel OP
This is why the five monos, compared to dorar and nerezza, were having ~200 stars more. To cover up the ~10 elemental bonus they were loosing. All before the actuall boss armors, bear and swamp. Quality jump like we did whit admiral, jian, deva, dragons, and now beringar. Monos now need to have ~2800 complessive stats to be better than actual boss armors.
Is it worth the effort to max Blaze+, if I already have a maxed regular Blaze?
I fused the regular Blaze when it was still possible, then got a Blaze+ from the beast chest.
I know I will max it, simply because it's an epic+. But will it be worth the effort....
bkal into another bkal is 120 points if i remember correctly (saw someone do it once).Quote:
Originally Posted by monch9
I had a few bkals as fodder and they gave 90 ep to normal armors - not sure how much it would give to another bkal but I believe it would be 90 as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jman
Is the + version of the current boss really that great? I mean, I'm stoked, because it's looking like I have 43 in the bag, I'm only 7 kills away and I still have 4 more days to get those 7 kills(ie: easy street), and it's going to be my first ever, but the stats look fairly mediocre. A total of 2530, which is only 300 more then my Storm Sorc +(2273). Are those extra 300 stats going to make a significant difference?
Not that I'm not going to make the +, I'm still very happy that I'm finally going to hit the 43rd tier for a boss, that's been my goal since I first found out that the 43rd tier is what you needed to reach to get the + version. Just kinda sad that's going to be a weaker armor then the previous ones, lol!
On another note, I have to say, I've had a lot of luck with EE drops from the boss this time, and I'm still probably only going to reach about 47 kills or so(no way I'll hit 51, not a chance), and the only time I've missed making kills are the hours that I'm sleeping. Is the only way to hit 51 and then 60 is to sac sleep or spend gems? I Just don't see being able to hit those two particular tiers without setting an alarm, getting up and blearily slogging my way through a kill or two half-asleep.
If you're not getting epic armors, Epic boss+ armors are your next best choice. From what I remember, your armors aren't that good at the moment, so this armor will probably be a pretty big help. By the way, you may want to consider that although you may have enough time to reach boss 43, beating it will be much harder because bosses at the end of each reward tier jumps in difficulty, if you haven't found that out already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starwulf
With regards to reaching 60, having very good armors against the boss is a necessity. For example, I managed to kill the last boss with only 1 knight until somewhere between level 18 to 20. It made reaching 60 much easier because I saved energy using more knights, so I could kill the boss more times. I never actually needed to sacrifice sleep, and I managed to kill 60 roughly 8 hours before the next boss.
actually, those boss armors (bear and swamp demon) are sort of the best legendaries you can get for now. Only aegis of the dragon, combustion+ and clayplate+ are better than those, and causethey are chest only.... I think is worth the max.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starwulf
(All those fusedbornes vanguards.... They are getting a real foe on legendary ranks. I'm maxing it even if i have a maxed clayplate regular.)
That is very true in regards to having a good strong armor to take you to close to 20 kills solo. I made it to 14 against this one before I had to add someone, so that certainly helped me out a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by deathexe
I do realize that they jump in difficulty, but right now I can kill him with 5 knights and I don't even get to the fifth knight before he's dead. I figure come the 43rd kill I"ll probably go 5 and 2 against him for the win, or maybe 4/3, using the strongest knights I have on my friends list, but I'm confident that I'll be strong enough to do it. Frankly, if it comes down to it, I have 20 gems saved, and I'll HAPPILY burn them for extra epic energy to kill him for the +.
Also, you are partially correct. My armors WEREN'T that strong, but I've been doing nothing but leveling them for the last few days, they are all 50+ now, with my Storm Sorc + being at 60. It's slowing down now, as I have no fusion boost armors, so I'm just feeding my storm sorc + Atlantean Avenger armors for the double bonus to EP. I get 1 level right now from 4 of them. Still, I've gained a TON of strength, gone from like 1450 atk/1050 defense to nearly 1700/1200 now. It's definitely quite a difference to what I was, I've been winning a significant more of my arena/friends list duels in the last few days, it's great. I definitely see why I probably should have focused more on leveling my armors early on instead of leveling.
Edit: gotta say, I'm getting irritated with fusing right now. I'm about to attempt my fifth fusion of Infernal Lord and Rocfeather robes, and every time it's been 2 star(3 embersteel and 1 flowstone). Hopefully I'll finally get lucky on this last attempt and snag a combustion finally.
Oh, one other question: If I don't have to burn any gems for the 43rd kill(I don't think I'll have to), would it be smarter to save them and use them on a chance chest in the future, or should I save until I have enough to kill Beringar in the Summoning stone 4 times, because then I could craft the + version of his armor, which with the current boss, would give me two + version of boss armors.
Uh, actually you don't get any extra EP from enhancing your storm sorcerer with atlantean avenger armors. As long as there's one matching element, you get the extra EP, having two makes no difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starwulf
Also, I wouldn't actually consider Your armors being strong yet. Considering how your best armor is a storm sorc+ at level 60 at the moment.
Another thing to point out, your current level affects how much damage and health your friends you use have. Basically, the stats and health of your friends are capped, making them much less effective until you're around level 90+ I believe.
Gems should be spent on maxing your training fields first if you haven't already done so.
So I'm fairly new, and I've only boughten gems once and never got anything. I'm lvl 86, and my armors are Doran's, levithan, and guardians. I dont seem to ever get any epic boss+ should i try maxxing out the "bigger 4" instead of what I'm using atm?
Uhh, I'm already level 100 ^^ So there is no worries there. And, I meant comparatively, I'm a helluva lot stronger then I was just 3 days ago :).Quote:
Originally Posted by deathexe
I had no idea that you didn't get a double bonus for matching both elements when enhancing armors, That's quite interesting to learn, I appreciate the tip!
If you have the Big 4 maxed out, it's a matter of stats. Long ago it was necessary to do the Bigger 4. For a number of reasons. Now, an EB non-plus may be equally as strong and better elements. So it goes by the week. Infernal and Dark Prince+ are necessary though. That's a fairly universal idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravendark
How did you get to EB14 with one knight and still think you'll need 5/2 at 43? What armors are you using that there's such a huge scale in the ability of your lower knights? Your lower knights should have previous gear on, which means if you're building upwards correctly, instead of skipping steps, you'll have adequate gear for all 3 knights fighting. Don't worry so much about the rush to EB+. Trust me, it's a wall. If you don't have the ability to ease your way into it, you will be spending a huge amount of frustration not being able to level it. Remember, once you get 43 once, you'll want it every week. That's a brand new legendary plus to get every week. A brand new non-plus to get to 35, every week. It's a lot of work, and unless you're fully prepared for it, you will always end up bottle necked. The armors you have will not get leveled, and you will have to use them for something else when a better version comes out, still in nostalgia about how it was your, "first eb+ armor."Quote:
Originally Posted by Starwulf
Get the bigger4 first. don't worry about EB+ until it happens naturally.
Unless you're an addict capable of maxing a legendary+ every week like some of us do. In which case more power to you, and make sure you go 2/5 or 3/4, not 5/2 or 4/3. The boss will use 2 special attacks if he's under a certain point of life, but only 1 if he's above that point. Saving you HP and getting you more damage by going in with less knights first.
I reached 60 last week without gemming, since the stars aligned:Quote:
Originally Posted by Starwulf
- the boss had consecutive elements
- I had a strong armor that was double element strong, so did 100% bonus damage and not weak (Forgestone+)
- I had a lot of friends with good armors (Forgestone+)
- good EE drops
spirit/earth bosses (Forgestone friends) and water/fire bosses (Maelstorm friends) are probably the only ones where I have a chance of getting close to 60 right now, though I'd need to be really lucky/efficient on the EE and friends for the latter...
Managing your EE and friends is also pretty important if you don't want to have to get up in the middle of the night.
"commander / 1 follower + commander / commander + 1 friend / 2 followers + commander / 1 follower + commander + 1 friend / either commander + 2 friends or 2 followers + commander + 1 friend or a mix of those depending on what your bottleneck is" seems to be decent sequence for the first 30+ levels of the boss.
Yep, Snakeskins will give you the same EP in this case (because of the water) for 3000 gold instead of 6000 gold. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Starwulf
bigger 4 also need their non-plus crafted and leveled first (though only to level 20) so there's not too much difference there compared to epic boss+. So if you can get to 43 without gemming, do it and level that armor instead if it fits you w.r.t. element combination.Quote:
Originally Posted by EljayK
To clarify that, on your second run the boss will always start with 1 or 2 crits. You want a follower to take those blows and not your commander.Quote:
Unless you're an addict capable of maxing a legendary+ every week like some of us do. In which case more power to you, and make sure you go 2/5 or 3/4, not 5/2 or 4/3. The boss will use 2 special attacks if he's under a certain point of life, but only 1 if he's above that point. Saving you HP and getting you more damage by going in with less knights first.
Hi, I have a question about beast brawl rewards.
You gain the keys if you keep the armors and such, but here is the question:
Do i have to keep the normal version armor, even I have completed the "normal" stage of the rewards with 2 keys, or do I have to wait the remaining 3 days still?
Do i have to keep the normal version armor to get to the 2nd stage, even if I have the +version?
Why do I ask? Someone got Moontide with soulshard and swanpstone and I want to try this out asap, but when I use soulshard now (old beasbrawl) ... or swampstone (new one, which will start in a couple of days -.-') i cant complete the beastbrawl rewards then i fear ... :/
I did it last week on armored bear. I used marco's forgestone+ and only had to use 5 people. I had to use 3 people for level 15.Quote:
Originally Posted by EljayK
Has anyone worked out the drop% of snakeskin leather strips on the various difficulties?
I only Farm in the morning K&D Time Zone 9-10am PDT, 100% drop on normal stage in the morning 70-80% afternoon 50-70% night.Quote:
Originally Posted by gnolaum
So morning farming is the best for me
That's based on your luck, it's very much unlikely that the time that you farm decides the drop rates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Of The Infernal
There was data collected on this topic by the way, but I can't recall the exact numbers. Epic is somewhere around 90% though I believe.
This is exactly what I'm looking for. Anyone have a link to that thread/post/site? Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by deathexe
All i do is epic. And its between 90-95%. And best XP. Ide say maybe -10% each difficulty. Just on my experience
If it was -10% on each difficulty I can do Normal 60% faster than Epic ... so I guess it's kinda a wash which to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by drygores
thanks synovia for your advice bud, i really appreciate it. i fused a combustion armor tonight on my first try and am going to try for a clayplate now. if i got clay or guardian i would be pretty happy, i want clay just bc i think it looks cool though = ).
btw i liked that synovia actually gave me the names of armors to fuse...spec and stonescale for my shot at guardian/clay...more people should be specific like him for us noobs!
btw just to say-people dont understand for those of us not in big guilds EB+ is beyond impossible without stepping stone armors. the bigger 4 are still good for those of us who need multiple armor combinations to progress through EB fights if don't have good armors to farm with. for myself it takes about 2 knights to farm mats at a normal stage, just to pray the 2 3 stars or w/e i fuse into something better. shrug i may be wrong i know im a noob = ).
Just wanted to point out that fusing spectral and stonescale to get Clayplate or guardian is quite a bad combination. Chances for clay or guardian is pretty low because the possible results include one star armors. If you do get it though, consider yourself pretty lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newsmurf
well then why dont you give me advice instead of saying "no thats dumb" = ((((
what are my best options for clayplate? i want to look cool = ///////////
Leviathan + Troll king...
And no one ever said to get epic boss+ without stepping stone armors. I managed to farm enough mats for Swamp Shaman+ and Infernal lord+ in a week without a guild. My only armors were the Big 4 at the time...
If you want to fuse a clay or guardian, fusing two legendary monos are your best bet. Ideally, a mono water and a mono earth for clay, and a mono spirit and mono earth for guardian. Water/spirit with earth works too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newsmurf
If you don't have legendary armors, you could always craft epic boss armors when you hit level 15 so you can fuse them, since I'm assuming you don't have any other armors to level.
At worse, two three star armors work too, albeit much less effectively. Just get the element combination right.
By the way, I in no way said 'no that's dumb' I just pointed out that the fusion you were going for is ineffective.
i know thats why i put it in quotations. but it's like if you're going to take the time to be like "you are wrong nublet" give me some advice to yo! thats why im posting asking for help. can you give me 3 star armor combinations that will work for clay that i can farm? and how do i get ahold of 4 star monos? i haven't done KoD yet, do i get mono legendarys there or is there no way to craft mono legends from mats?
I found maxed SS+ and Infernal+ to be very handy in dealing with epic bosses. DP+ is a close third primarily due to the pain in gathering the mats.
The upside to the low drop rate most see for DP mats is an insane amount of experience you'll get in KoD epic stage. If you aren't lvl 100+, you soon will be. =P
Firstly, I never said that you were wrong, or called you a noob. I just said that that fusion combination was ineffective, nothing more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newsmurf
There isn't a fixed three star combination, or any fixed combination to fuse any armor at all. As long as you get the element combination right, i.e. having water on one side and earth on the other to fuse clay, or have spirit on one side and earth on the other for guardian, you stand a chance to get the armor. That's why I didn't give any armor names.
As I've said in my previous post, you can get legendar armors from killing the epic boss and crafting the armor.
Noone can help me?Quote:
Originally Posted by HalbeSuppe
There isn't any beast brawl event now. You're free to fuse the current boss armorQuote:
Originally Posted by HalbeSuppe
As for other events, I would say you would need both normal and + just to be safe. However, players have noted that having the + makes you eligible to get the normal rewards also.
I want to know when new spots open up in the guild im in, member/HC position. If there is a list of all 75 levels i'd like it very much.
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Originally Posted by Newsmurf
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Originally Posted by Newsmurf
Unfortunately, based off the first two quotes, you come off as the "nublet" you described in the third. Thats the perception I get when you say you want to look cool vs. you actually want an armor because it has better stats/works well vs. a boss/epic etc. You know, any reason other than "looks cool" sounds a little better and less "nublet."Quote:
Originally Posted by Newsmurf
If you can farm the 3* armors easily enough to just fuse them away, what armors are you using to do the farming? This is my main question. If you can easily farm them, why is it such a bad idea to level them?
You need multiple armors to be able to farm bosses, especially as you get closer to 43 to be able to get the + version, right? You can't get to 43 with just friends. Or if you do, it will be REALLY hard. Having some of these story armors is a solid boost to your armory until you start actually crafting and leveling the boss armors. If, of course, you are using armors that are better than the story line armors, then by all means, ignore everything that I said. It just seems like you're going around your elbow to get to your ass when people just skip armors that can easily help them get to higher levels, simply because they "can" fused.
a)actually if you could read i called myself a noob in like 2 posts lol. b) "you are wrong nublet" was directed towards myself...so again i don't get how you are calling me what i said he was referring to me as? c) actually some people dont play this game as a min maxer so it doesn't make you a nublet to want to have an armor based on aesthetics.
i just use 3/4 of big 4.( not bigger). and i have a swamp shaman+ at 52. but clayplate looks so spiffy and it has like 400 more stats >.< i figure if i have that and combusion along with what 3/4 big four i should be ok to get to 43 with friends. could be wrong. might need to make a DPR+ for the wombo combo.
No, it's better to teach that fusion results are based on elements, not specific armors, so you become better than the clueless wiki anons who add and remove armor combos from a "fusion armors" wiki page because specific armor X + specific armor Y did or did not result in specific armor Z...Quote:
Originally Posted by Newsmurf
In other words: "any 4-star mono spirit armor" or "any 4-star mono spirit armor, such as Soulshard" are both much better answers than just "Soulshard".</rant>
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/give_a...for_a_lifetime
To get to level 43 of the boss these are kind of requirements:Quote:
Originally Posted by Newsmurf
- high enough level (90+ I'd say)
- maxed armor that's strong against the boss and not weak w.r.t. elements on your main knight (bigger four or good 4-star non-plus)
- 10+ high level friends with good armors against the boss
- min maxing your epic energy and friend use
Lots of earth/water, earth and water armors there in the mix when going for Clayplate even using mono water and earth armors to fuse (including Swamp Shaman), so if all armors have equal chances (we don't know if that's the case) your odd are probably 10-15% for Clayplate. If you go for interesting looking, Jackalope ( http://knights-and-dragons.wikia.com...39;s_Chaingarb ) is one of the other results, but has worse stats than Swamp Shaman+. ;)
If you use 2 dual element armors, the possible results are about half the list of existing armors though...
What are the odds of getting combustion armor from fusing Infernal Lords and Rocfeather Robes? I've now fused 6 sets of them together, and have gotten 3 embersteel, 2 monster garb, and 1 flowstone >< I haven't even gotten a 3 star yet out of it, let alone a 4. Starting to get discouraged with it, though I"ll obviously have to continue soldiering on to have any hope of getting it.