Admins - is getting stats from the "player database" cheating or not?

[[CM]]forgetaboutit]

For the record, when the database was in use I was in FC. I was one of the people monte contacted offering to show me the info that had been collected. I declined, because frankly I didn't, and don't, care.

Lifetime gold spend is amazingly easy to estimate. If you have half a shmick then gold on hand is pretty easy to estimate, too - moreso at the higher levels where pretty much all the players know one another's play styles.

That said, I think it was definitely a step too far, and am glad that the idea of using such methods at all (even for "legitimate purposes", such as the top-10 cheat-identifier chat that it was purportedly aimed at assisting) has not maintained favour.

My main concerns are:
a) That Gree sends unencrypted data, purely out of laziness.
b) That significant, undeniable hacking - not just for personal gain but aimed at others to directly detriment them - has gone unpunished in several of the most high profile instances.

The database would struggle to make top 10 on my issues with CC at the moment, or even at the time.

Also what other info can they sift from your data packet besides what was said

[bald zeemer]

If we're talking broader nefarious purposes rather than abusing for in-game benefit I'm significantly more concerned by the excessive unencrypted data that is included in tickets.

[montecore]

Also what other info can they sift from your data packet besides what was said

The biggest risk is tracking data changes. It's one thing to see your bank balance, gold balance, and collection count frozen in time. But if that is monitored and changes tracked over an hourly or half-hourly basis it becomes trivial to know which buildings you are collecting and when, how much gold you have spent and have left, you could even predict gold bonuses for an entire syndicate if you tracked it long enough.

[Green Drake]

If we're talking broader nefarious purposes rather than abusing for in-game benefit I'm significantly more concerned by the excessive unencrypted data that is included in tickets.

Then may I suggest you start your own thread dealing specifically with that topic.

[Max Power]

Man, I feel like a relic in this game these days.

[Dipstik]

You are a relic.

[nopenopenope]

mmm relish.

[cave man kid]

I wonder if the admins just don't care or are not allowed to answer the op's original question

[size16]

with this an the disastrous update for Android - Gree employees are noticeably absent on the forum.

[mxz]

I wonder if the admins just don't care or are not allowed to answer the op's original question

Guarantee you the admins have no idea what he's talking about. CJ probably doesn't even understand it. Heck, the programmers might not even understand what's happening...

[cave man kid]

Guarantee you the admins have no idea what he's talking about. CJ probably doesn't even understand it. Heck, the programmers might not even understand what's happening...

This data hacking or collection how ever you want to look at it has been going on for a long time and GREE has known about it so I don't think it should be too hard for a admin to find out what the official policy is

[mxz]

This data hacking or collection how ever you want to look at it has been going on for a long time and GREE has known about it so I don't think it should be too hard for a admin to find out what the official policy is

I could tell you what the policy is, too. And I'm pretty sure they wouldn't refer to it as "data hacking" - as that is something completely different.

[Dipstik]

In the criminal justice world, we call this "plain view".

[chemy]

Top 25 team here a bunch of battles in a row and never once used nor know anything about it... Don't say all top use it. We consistently finish 12-17 and no cheaters in our group.

[Angel6ix6ix6]

Private info being released and shared. No permission given....... Lawyer up!