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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash23884 View Post
    Do you guys think I should just use the regular AA that I used to lvl up to unlock the plus version to fuse it to the plus version or keep it?
    Did you mean enhance? Personally I kept doubles of all my big 4 just to avoid the "this is the only armor this knight can wear" message.
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    Well I confused enhance with fuse. But yeah, I mean why not just buy a basic armor for the knight? A lot of people here recommended to enhance the armor used to unlock the plus verson. But I'm not sure if I should cause I sometimes use the regular lvl 15 armor for the stages as backup even though they don't last long in a few hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash23884 View Post
    Do you guys think I should just use the regular AA that I used to lvl up to unlock the plus version to fuse it to the plus version or keep it?
    It's probably best used to enhance one of the later levels of the AA+, since IIRC a level 15 AA is worth 24 + (15-1) = 38 enhancement points.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buckwild View Post
    Does leveling a 3 star take a lot longer to get to 50 than leveling a 1 star plus to 50?

    Which leads me to opinions on leveling Boilerplate Armor v. Hydra Hunter Plus?
    At 50:
    Boilerplate: 740/940
    Hydra Hunter Plus: 777/795

    I know the boiler plate can go beyond 50, but if the EP to get beyond it before I start getting the 3 star pluses make it prohibitive, I may as well stick to Hydra Hunter Plus.

    Its tempting to level boiler plate because it stays ahead in stats all the way up to lvl 50, but i don't know if the cost of leveling it up will be much more, EP wise.
    A very large portion of the game consists of max leveling level 70 armors. If you tag on the term "prohibitive" to that, you might burn out from this game pretty soon... ("get new armor, grind for up to a week for materials to max level it, get new armor..." is kind of the basics of the game.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash23884 View Post
    Well I confused enhance with fuse. But yeah, I mean why not just buy a basic armor for the knight? A lot of people here recommended to enhance the armor used to unlock the plus verson. But I'm not sure if I should cause I sometimes use the regular lvl 15 armor for the stages as backup even though they don't last long in a few hits.
    since it gives a poorly amount of point, only the basic 24 plus 1 point per level.... Keep it untill it will be totally useless. At low levels, a 15 armor can make the difference.

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    So I should keep my regular AA lvl 15 till it's totally garbage then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco_ View Post
    Well, if you have plenty of money, Chimera is 4 EP more than a Snakeskin towards leveling Dark Prince...
    Laugh, true; however, that is not me. I'm perpetually broke in this game: enhancement is a beast that must be fed.

    Back to the poster's question regarding drop rates off HC Cerberus norm: 75% talon drops, 3:1 ratio compared to Infernal Chunks for me.
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    For some reason, my knights didn't heal during the time that I wasn't logged on! Was offline for just over a day and my units were at the same health (1hp) as they were when I logged out! Was really annoying as had to wait 2 hours to finish the round I was on!!

    Any reason why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotak View Post
    For some reason, my knights didn't heal during the time that I wasn't logged on! Was offline for just over a day and my units were at the same health (1hp) as they were when I logged out! Was really annoying as had to wait 2 hours to finish the round I was on!!

    Any reason why?
    If you "x-ed" out of the game(not "exited") in the middle of a battle, you won't heal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckwild View Post
    Does leveling a 3 star take a lot longer to get to 50 than leveling a 1 star plus to 50?

    Which leads me to opinions on leveling Boilerplate Armor v. Hydra Hunter Plus?
    At 50:
    Boilerplate: 740/940
    Hydra Hunter Plus: 777/795

    I know the boiler plate can go beyond 50, but if the EP to get beyond it before I start getting the 3 star pluses make it prohibitive, I may as well stick to Hydra Hunter Plus.

    Its tempting to level boiler plate because it stays ahead in stats all the way up to lvl 50, but i don't know if the cost of leveling it up will be much more, EP wise.
    Depends on your level and economy. Napkin math if you look at the datasheet, it is approximately double the ep cost (and therefore everything else) to level a 70 lvl cap armor vs. a 50 lvl cap one. Such that you can level 2 of the Big 4 to 50 for the same cost as leveling one 70 to 50... and as you've surmised, the stats are pretty much a wash until you kick the legendary higher and 50-70 isn't cheap, I haven't looked explicitly yet but I strongly suspect you could get a third Big 4 leveled for near the same cost.

    It's why the conventional forum wisdom is correct in this case: it's often a mistake to level a 3, 4, or 5 star armor too early in the game because there's better uses for it in the short term. Once your economy is decked out, and you've finished leveling and content progression as far as you want, then there's plenty of spare resources to start pushing the higher quality armors.

    Finally it depends what your goals are, if you're just looking to get to 100 quickly and then look around (like I did), the path is Big 4 to 50 then ride SS+ to level 100 on exp runs in HC norm (mighty might actually be better depending on targets) in my estimation.

    Fact is the Big 4 will serve you very well even past 100 for a lot of things; they may not be the ultimate end-game armor, but their cost and stats justify their being initial tier of armor to shoot for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unresolved View Post
    If you "x-ed" out of the game(not "exited") in the middle of a battle, you won't heal.
    Hmm, in the middle of a battle, the only "X" there is should be the "flee" one.
    But if you stay in the battle (you don't win, die or flee) AFAIK you indeed don't heal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco_ View Post
    Hmm, in the middle of a battle, the only "X" there is should be the "flee" one.
    But if you stay in the battle (you don't win, die or flee) AFAIK you indeed don't heal.
    You put it way better than I did. Words weren't forming correctly in my brain when I wrote that .

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    Are you sure? I heal when I don't finish a fight. I think they key action you must do is go into the overworld in the middle of the fight, and when you wake up the next day, you're at full hp on all 3 knights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloStar View Post
    Are you sure? I heal when I don't finish a fight. I think they key action you must do is go into the overworld in the middle of the fight, and when you wake up the next day, you're at full hp on all 3 knights.
    If you say, hit the "home button" on your phone in the middle of a battle(not in-between rounds), you won't heal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloStar View Post
    Are you sure? I heal when I don't finish a fight. I think they key action you must do is go into the overworld in the middle of the fight, and when you wake up the next day, you're at full hp on all 3 knights.
    Yeah, that's the "flee" action. You're then out of the fight and in the "overworld", but it still shows a marking at the location and stage where you bailed and you can then continue at the round where you left off. (also very handy when you're short on special attack energy to hit the boss: fleeing preserves special attack energy, but heals all monsters in that round again, so you can (ab)use that to get the extra 1 or 2 hits to fill the bar)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco_ View Post
    Yeah, that's the "flee" action. You're then out of the fight and in the "overworld", but it still shows a marking at the location and stage where you bailed and you can then continue at the round where you left off. (also very handy when you're short on special attack energy to hit the boss: fleeing preserves special attack energy, but heals all monsters in that round again, so you can (ab)use that to get the extra 1 or 2 hits to fill the bar)
    Oh hey, thanks Marco! I do fine on things I care about but I get sloppy on snakeskin farming sometimes; this will save me a non-trivial amount of self-flagellation for having wasted my time by not paying attention on that run .
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