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    @Charlie, we are essentially grocery shopping for the same thing. I have a coupon for 30 cents. Since I have the coupon in my hand I'm not going to throw it away. The more cost effective method will save both money and fusion stones, whether you max an armor a week or an armor a month. Many players were saying cost is an issue, and I was actually responding to a post specifically asking for the math to determine the most cost effective method.

    The level 50 cutoff has been shown by previous math to be most cost effective if snakeskin isn't matching. I was sharing with the community that the level 60 cutoff is most cost effective if snakeskin IS matching. Sorry if this came off as sort of a pissing match which I did not intend, but I didn't want forum readers to be misled.

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    One legendary per week means you'd have to choose between leveling Epic Boss armor or other armors. I guess it's safe to say there's a fair amount of people who'd like to level more than one per week, this includes free players.
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    Alternate Leveling Strategy

    CHECK THIS OUT

    AT one point I was using the Snakeskin Method to level up all my armors, now I'm working on a secondary strategy. First, I'll get four silver star armors (30 min Smith x 4 = 2 hours).

    In my case I have 3 Armor smiths so let's say an hour to complete all 4.

    I then use basic armor to get the silver stars to level 19 (a total of 64 basic armors). For me that's 3 basic every 5 mins or 54 in 90 mins. Add 12 more basic while the 4th silver star is being smithed and Voila!

    Silver star armor can match whatever you need and Armor XP = 10 plus 1 for each lvl above 1. Grand total XP for each = 28. 4 X 28 = 112.

    That's 112 XP in approx 2 hours! Compared to 96 XP when using Snakeskin which depending on your number of armor smiths could take much longer.

    I know this requires a lot of attention, so its just an alternative.

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    But wouldn't it be better if you just use regular monos? In 2 hours with 3 smiths wouldn't that be 120 ep per 2 hours? No extra cost on getting them to lvl 19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josiah 2K22 View Post
    CHECK THIS OUT

    AT one point I was using the Snakeskin Method to level up all my armors, now I'm working on a secondary strategy. First, I'll get four silver star armors (30 min Smith x 4 = 2 hours).

    In my case I have 3 Armor smiths so let's say an hour to complete all 4.

    I then use basic armor to get the silver stars to level 19 (a total of 64 basic armors). For me that's 3 basic every 5 mins or 54 in 90 mins. Add 12 more basic while the 4th silver star is being smithed and Voila!

    Silver star armor can match whatever you need and Armor XP = 10 plus 1 for each lvl above 1. Grand total XP for each = 28. 4 X 28 = 112.

    That's 112 XP in approx 2 hours! Compared to 96 XP when using Snakeskin which depending on your number of armor smiths could take much longer.

    I know this requires a lot of attention, so its just an alternative.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raistmar View Post
    But wouldn't it be better if you just use regular monos? In 2 hours with 3 smiths wouldn't that be 120 ep per 2 hours? No extra cost on getting them to lvl 19.
    I have to agree with Raistmar here. I would go for straight monos, not necessarily for the time or attention the lvl 19 requires, but for the enhancement cost of those monos to that level.
    64 basic armors to get them all to 19 I would assume is 64/4 is 16. that's 4 total 4-armor enhances on each of the 4 monos used.
    That's 18 levels in 4 enhances. Let's assume you go 1->6, 6->10, 10->15, 15->19.
    That's 600 + 1600 + 2400 + 4800 = 9400 gold to upgrade those 4 monos. 54 basics is 16,200, and the 4 monos are 2,000. That's a total 27,800 gold, which means 231 gold/minute as a base cost.
    Snakeskins are 12,000 for 4 in 2 hours, which means 100 gold/minute as a base cost.

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    Enhancing dual element armors

    I feel like this is a noob question but have read through the whole thread and don't see it.

    If I'm enhancing a dual element armor into another dual element armor, are the EPs the same if 1 element matches as they would be if both elements match?

    Thanks and sorry if the answer was already posted.

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    Yeah they would provide the same ep, be it one or two element matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistmar View Post
    Yeah they would provide the same ep, be it one or two element matches.
    Thanks Raistmar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rediye View Post
    @Charlie, we are essentially grocery shopping for the same thing. I have a coupon for 30 cents. Since I have the coupon in my hand I'm not going to throw it away. The more cost effective method will save both money and fusion stones, whether you max an armor a week or an armor a month. Many players were saying cost is an issue, and I was actually responding to a post specifically asking for the math to determine the most cost effective method.

    The level 50 cutoff has been shown by previous math to be most cost effective if snakeskin isn't matching. I was sharing with the community that the level 60 cutoff is most cost effective if snakeskin IS matching. Sorry if this came off as sort of a pissing match which I did not intend, but I didn't want forum readers to be misled.
    No pissing contest Intended. I am simply providing another way of playing that is practical and doesn't run out of money. It is not realistic to want to level multiple lvl70 armors a week. The later you start the game, the more armors you feel you missed out on and must catch up on. My point to forum readers was that you are better off to optimize the choice and how you upgrade your armors thus eliminating the issue of money. You are correct to say that your method of play where you want to level multiple lvl70 armors per week will cause money problems no matter how optimized your enhancement strategy is. I don't play that way because I don't think it is efficient and as a result I don't run out of money.
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    Grate job so far, I am normally to lazy to join a thread but I thought I would do help out. I did not read everything 100% but what I did read I think I can add some things to really help out.

    1. I never saw anyone talk about enhancing armor with same element armor. For instance, if you take a basic fire armor and add it to Living Flame Armor the outcome will be more points to the Living Flame than if you were to have used basic water.

    2. The fastest way and the one where you can do it non stop is to go to Relic Ruins, on Honor difficulty (I THINK it's honor could be EPIC just try it and see if this works the same way I am writing)
    and just repeat that over and over... you get 3 stone slabs EVERY time at the end and it's only a couple of mobs each round so goes by fast. The lvl is so easy that even newer players will get bored of doing it before they have to stop because their toons are all dead.

    3. HIGHER LEVEL (90+) For farming I really do like to go to Sunken Carrack, on Epic. You do need to be higher level for this (at least to be somewhat efficient). The trick here is to wait till you are fighting one of those Parana man things with the trident. Use your finishing move to kill those, (on the final round ONLY use special if that is the FIRST thing to fight, that way you can build it back up to full before you even get to the boss) if you do every time they will drop two corals which you can use to make Seafoam Armor. I typically get 6-8 Easily every round, than the boss can drop 3 gems for Atlantean Avenger Armor or 2 hairs for Spectral Captain's Uniform. If you have the right gear and right level you should be able to finish the boss off without having to wait to heal. So I tend to do the Sunken Carrack to spawn the epic boss, kill the epic boss, go back to Carrack finish off that boss, restart it with a fresh set of toons and do it once again, before waiting to let all the timers reset (2-3 hrs) This lvls you very fast and gets you lots of resources and spawns your epic boss as needed

    4. If you are starting off I have to say don't worry about upgrading your armor to the max (or even that high) go to the arena fined some high lvls and invite them to join you... than keep doing the new fights as they open up... keep pushing through and progressing to the next fight, if you hit a fight you can't do on your own upgrade your armor a bit with the resources you have collected and/or use the high lvl friends to help you beat the whole battle. If/when you do get lvl 70 armor get it to the + version first than restart it as a + set and STICK WITH IT till you get it maxed do that with 3 different sets of 70 and you will be laughing. A couple of weeks later you will be at the end of the game (as far as opening the map) and you will have lots of resources available to you.

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    Noob question

    Just started playing I have been reading the thread for a little bit. But would I b better leveling armor with slatemail or snakeskin armor? Or what would be the best way for someone who just started to level armor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madpapaya View Post
    Just started playing I have been reading the thread for a little bit. But would I b better leveling armor with slatemail or snakeskin armor? Or what would be the best way for someone who just started to level armor?
    First levels mono's, when they get too expensive switch to snakeskin.
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    Say when I'm enhancing a fire/water rare, with a snake skin, only 1 matching element, do I get the full benefit ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperziz View Post
    Say when I'm enhancing a fire/water rare, with a snake skin, only 1 matching element, do I get the full benefit ?
    You only need to match one element to get the bonus. Having both element match doesn't give any extra bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistmar View Post
    You only need to match one element to get the bonus. Having both element match doesn't give any extra bonus.
    So you can use snakeskin to enhance any armor with either water or earth to lv 70 without loosing any stat points on a level? or use just the silver star mono armors to upgrade a dual element armor to 70 without loosing any stat points?

    I have been playing it safe and have been enhancing only with armors that share BOTH elements.
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