You did it to yourselves - why the LTQ is so much harder

[Meta Rage Trollbot]

It has everything to do with the fact that, once again, Gree over-inflated an event and is back-peddling to get it back into line with the rest of the game.

This is spot on. First few LTQs were awesome to the point of exploitation. If you did them, be happy you did. If you sat them out, you lost.

I believe this corrective measure was a bit harsh, but I hold out hope Gree will go back to a model closer to the last LTQ (which was still pretty good).

[steveo127]

you guys don't get it. of course it's not literally cheating, but the point is you have to look at it from the company's perspective.....seriously how thick are some of you? if you're trying to make money, pre-staging is going to raise a red flag. so while it may not literally be cheating, the company will still find you cheating them of their efforts to earn money. therefore, we can resign to call it cheating, insofar as "cheating" is the reason this change is happening

[jkppkj]

you guys don't get it. of course it's not literally cheating, but the point is you have to look at it from the company's perspective.....seriously how thick are some of you? if you're trying to make money, pre-staging is going to raise a red flag. so while it may not literally be cheating, the company will still find you cheating them of their efforts to earn money. therefore, we can resign to call it cheating, insofar as "cheating" is the reason this change is happening

Cheating or not, I just can't believe that everyone here is so dense that a majority didn't think of the ploy of prestaging on their own; blaming the forum for this is silly.

[Thief]

You exploited and now the LTQ is harder. Fact!

I completely disagree with your defenition of a fact or how you came to that conclusion. If CJ decides to post that is the reason they made the event more difficult then i will agree that MIGHT be a fact. An Exploit is not Clearly defined in this game, but by this logic i would say gold is an exploit as it gives SOME players a distict advantage.

In the end its a strategy. There is nothing secretive about it as there is no garuntee that prestaging will get you further. You don't have any inside intel on what maps will have the LTQ before the event starts (well perhaps you do). However unless we are told it's a glitch/exploit i don't see anything wrong and i don't think its the reason we have the more difficult LTQ.

[Q Raider]

The level of difficulty has nothing to do with people operating a pre-staging strategy and maybe reducing the amount of energy required to complete an LTQ.

The early boss events for MW also had a pattern of increasing difficulty while the optimum point was found. It had nothing to do with the 13 hit strategy that was detailed in the forum as some claimed, rather it was the game providers looking at the data from past results and tinkering to try to find the revenue "sweet spot". The same pattern occurred in both KA and MQ.

With respect to the first few PVE based LTQ's they were, to me, overly generous in comparison to the other events and this is now being corrected.

[syltaylor]

prestaging is definately not cheating. it's a loophole and every game needs them. if you are smart enough to figure it out use it if not oh well. they shouldnt compensate by making it so you have to prestage and use gold to finish. the bottom line is the money. they make it so even intelligent people cant get through without gold. have you ever had an offline game that had a boss or mission that you just could not beat no matter what? sometimes its the games fault and it should never be the games fault you cant beat it without a " cheat code" so to speak or in this case gold. gold should be more of an easy out like "god mode" not the only way out.

[Agent Orange]

you guys don't get it. of course it's not literally cheating, but the point is you have to look at it from the company's perspective.....seriously how thick are some of you? if you're trying to make money, pre-staging is going to raise a red flag. so while it may not literally be cheating, the company will still find you cheating them of their efforts to earn money. therefore, we can resign to call it cheating, insofar as "cheating" is the reason this change is happening

Considering an important factor is that you need to have a very high energy spec to make it even useful. Consider the lower level players with only a few hundred energy. Even with prestaging most would probably make it less then halfway without buying gold for refills. Even those with very high energy and prestaging could not make it through prestige without using gold.

If anything prestaging is going to keep the keen players in the hunt longer because the higher you got the better the payout. I'm certainly going to consider buying and using gold to move further up the levels because the payouts were so good and in fact I did.

It also gave weaker players a very slight glimmer of hope but again depending on your level and unit buildings you could have been snookered.

If prestaging was such a big issue then the logical move would have been to create new missions specifically for these events. What are the odds a beta tester figured that out and mentioned it. But I would suspect that the devs just took the easy way out and recycled things including the boosted units which appears to have been a mistake according to CJ.

In the end I would actually think prestaging would increase sales because the value for your investment was high.

But with this version of the event I didn't buy gold nor am I really going to use much since the payout is marginal.

And the real moral to all of this is that if you see a good deal take it because this apps track record is to reduce payouts over time as folks get addicted.

[Perilous]

What increased difficulty actually did was neutralize the +2 energy regen bonus.

[FromAfar]

IMHO, I think I is GREE messing with people who map an event, like devin.

GREE publishes nothing of the event. Other the. AN INCORRECT start time and finish.

When someone maps it out for all to see they don't like it. This is payback. And they aimed it at devin. Hence the name of the unit name!

PLAY FREE! Hit the where it hurts.

And devin, if I ever meet ya, I would gladly buy you a beer and an iTunes card for all your hard work!

Let's see what happens in the next event? Maybe this is an attempt to slow the unit deflation.

[Selfproclaimed]

It's not a cheat or an exploit. We didnt " cheat " gree out of money, GREE CHEATED ITSELF if anything.

[BigBlueNationAWC]

What do you mean I do not get it lol.

[HunterKiller]

We were worried about stat inflation after the first LTQ, where even free players like me made it half way through prestige without pre-staging.
Gree have certainly fixed that problem, but it seems like a bit if a drastic measure to me.
Now, even with a good amount of pre-staging and a +2 energy regen from the LTQ, I won't finish normal mode, which is something I think should be achievable for a high level free player like myself, basically Gree is saying that unless we pay them hundreds of dollars we don't get a thing anymore.
Terrible value for a few pixels in my opinion, I wouldn't pay that to go to a nice restraunt IRL!

[2nd Sea Raiders]

I kind of agree with what you are saying

[Acuratepaul]

I think pre-staging was a good strategy don't know why people posted it on this forum for gree to be like hey! They are outsmarting us. Now we suffer with ridiculous amount of energy to get a brick. The people of kingdom age made it nice new units to attack so you can't pre stage. The worst part of this increase in energy requires is for the people that knew nothing about pre staging and don't belong to the forums to know what's going on, their probably scratching their heads.

I love to spend gold on these events but this one I have 0 interest in. Not worth it, bonuses still not working from last one and now we get crappier units for more energy.

Make a new LTQ map make new people/buildings to attack. Don't make it harder for people that have done nothing wrong and have never pre star suffer. Balance it gree.

[Blest@iBOB!.mw]

IMHO, I think I is GREE messing with people who map an event, like devin.

GREE publishes nothing of the event. Other the. AN INCORRECT start time and finish.

When someone maps it out for all to see they don't like it. This is payback. And they aimed it at devin. Hence the name of the unit name!

PLAY FREE! Hit the where it hurts.

And devin, if I ever meet ya, I would gladly buy you a beer and an iTunes card for all your hard work!

Let's see what happens in the next event? Maybe this is an attempt to slow the unit deflation.

I agree with EVERYTHING FromAfar posted here...