Next battle in 11 days.

[HoneyBadger3]

Bit late on the results but I forgot my password and had to create a new account.

PackerHeights Top 11 212,250,863 Top 4000 1,261,220,686
ChinaTown Top 11 165,341,641 Top 4000 1,120,352,278
Difference Top 46,909,222 Top 4000 140,868,408

The top teams account for approximately 16% of the overall influence in any given battle
When the top teams caught that virus or got tied up for the first 24 hours it resulted 30% of the difference of the overall decline observed in the Rd4 Battle.

For those thinking that these top teams can't come together and 'Influence' the results...you are wrong. Individually the top teams have a level of organization, communication and 'resources' unlike the others. When they decide to work together they become a machine. Every syndicate benefited with lower points required to reach the target. You're welcome. That goes to FC as well....I don't consider you really winning this event. It was handed over to you to the benefit of everyone. I'm 100% confident FC can be taken down but I'm also 100% sure it's not worth it. You're just the only one's that haven't realized it yet.

Enjoy the events...you'll notice the prizes have gotten alot better. Coincidence? Maybe but at some point this company needs to realize that its not a bigger carrot that will get the donkeys to move.

Cheers [FwD] GU7 F4WK3S (formerly Famous When Dead Syndicate) I left to pursue other interests.

[BigMoney]

Bit late on the results but I forgot my password and had to create a new account.

PackerHeights Top 11 212,250,863 Top 4000 1,261,220,686
ChinaTown Top 11 165,341,641 Top 4000 1,120,352,278
Difference Top 46,909,222 Top 4000 140,868,408

The top teams account for approximately 16% of the overall influence in any given battle
When the top teams caught that virus or got tied up for the first 24 hours it resulted 30% of the difference of the overall decline observed in the Rd4 Battle.

For those thinking that these top teams can't come together and 'Influence' the results...you are wrong. Individually the top teams have a level of organization, communication and 'resources' unlike the others. When they decide to work together they become a machine. Every syndicate benefited with lower points required to reach the target. You're welcome. That goes to FC as well....I don't consider you really winning this event. It was handed over to you to the benefit of everyone. I'm 100% confident FC can be taken down but I'm also 100% sure it's not worth it. You're just the only one's that haven't realized it yet.

Enjoy the events...you'll notice the prizes have gotten alot better. Coincidence? Maybe but at some point this company needs to realize that its not a bigger carrot that will get the donkeys to move.

Cheers [FwD] GU7 F4WK3S (formerly Famous When Dead Syndicate) I left to pursue other interests.

No one's saying that the top teams can't influence the final totals; obviously they can. But everything you just accounted towards the boycott could just as easily be attributed to syndicate war fatigue, as the Chinatown battle started just 11 days after Packer Heights ended. Notice how little the rest of the field changed? Hell, it's even possible that the 24 hour boycott induced more spending than it otherwise would have, because perhaps it encouraged some top 25 teams to make a run for top 10 or some top 50 teams to make a run at top 25. I suspect we will see similarly reduced totals again at the top, simply from top syndicate spenders being fatigued by spending so much gold so often.

[HoneyBadger3]

No one's saying that the top teams can't influence the final totals; obviously they can. But everything you just accounted towards the boycott could just as easily be attributed to syndicate war fatigue, as the Chinatown battle started just 11 days after Packer Heights ended. Notice how little the rest of the field changed? Hell, it's even possible that the 24 hour boycott induced more spending than it otherwise would have, because perhaps it encouraged some top 25 teams to make a run for top 10 or some top 50 teams to make a run at top 25. I suspect we will see similarly reduced totals again at the top, simply from top syndicate spenders being fatigued by spending so much gold so often.

They announced it, told us it would happen and it did. To suggest it was related to battle fatigue (even partially) is a reach. The top teams can step on the gas any time.

[kingofwale]

do any professional sports force their players to all the sudden play twice as many games??


Sad to see that Gree chose to go with greedy cash-grab as oppose to a sustainable growth.

It's a foresight of a company jumping the shark.

[bald zeemer]

You should probably discount 20 mil from that decline, as that was random SAS inflation of 2nd place score (wildly unnecessary 15 mil lead over HGS), and FC holding the gap.

[bald zeemer]

do any professional sports force their players to all the sudden play twice as many games??


Sad to see that Gree chose to go with greedy cash-grab as oppose to a sustainable growth.

It's a foresight of a company jumping the shark.

Yes, it happened in cricket. Now many top players focus on 1 or 2 of the formats, or forego certain major tournaments to focus on their specific career goals.

[BigMoney]

They announced it, told us it would happen and it did. To suggest it was related to battle fatigue (even partially) is a reach. The top teams can step on the gas any time.

You're not addressing my point at all. Again, no one said top teams can't step on the gas at any time, because obviously they can. And did-- it only took a few hours for the top 10 teams to get right back to where they would have been had they not abstained from gold spending for 24 hours. (Unrelated, but I'm skeptical that all the teams did anyway-- some teams which I won't name put up suspicious totals in battles against us which would have been really hard to believe even given the generous 100% attack success rate assumption, even when I know they weren't even close). 24 hours isn't a boycott anyway. You basically said, "I'm not giving you my money today, I'm giving it to you tomorrow." What the hell motivation does GREE have to bend to your demands in that case?

If the cumulative totals for the top 25-50 teams in the upcoming syndicate war are closer to Packer Heights than to Chinatown, then I'll apologize. But based on the number of gold spenders I've seen dropping off the map recently, I feel fairly comfortable in my assertion that it was gold fatigue.

[HoneyBadger3]

zeemer, consider that there are over 11 million points from 24 hours of free hits in those totals. gree also dispensed 50 free bars to every player in the game before the event which goes against a dropoff.

big - let me rephrase. i feel that if there was no boycott or communication within the top syndicates the numbers for chinatown would be higher maybe not beyond packer but more than they were.

the numbers yes will continue to go down from Gree fatigue. the poor addressing of hackers, customer service and constant grabs at wallet are exhausting players.

i will sign off here. didnt really want to debate the numbers but instead just show everyone the overall decline regardless of what we speculate the reason is.

cheers

[M.C.]

the numbers yes will continue to go down from Gree fatigue. the poor addressing of hackers, customer service and constant grabs at wallet are exhausting players.

cheers[/QUOTE]



GU7, nicely put and I fully agree! I don't need 50 Gold, I want These hackers/cheaters to be removed. It is a game where the ones with the deepest pockets win, but that's life...hackers just ruin the game!

[Leezygeezer]

A few gold spenders on here probably aren't even a drop in the ocean, on droid alone the app has over 5 million downloads and I assume it's is equal or higher on iOS. So a few hundred players whining from 10 million, probably even less than a drop in the ocean.
It's really quite simple, you as an individual have a choice, spend your money or don't, play the game or don't, pick and choose the events you want to participate in or don't.
Don't misunderstand, my personal view is that it's become almost non stop events recently and this puts pressure on people, but it's only pressure that you apply to yourself.
I'm hooked and play them all but if I have something real life I want to do the that takes precedence.
People used to moan that it was boring, now people moan because there's too much happening

"you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time"

[BigMoney]

A few gold spenders on here probably aren't even a drop in the ocean

I stopped reading here, when it became clear you had no idea what you're talking about.

[Leezygeezer]

Gold spender? Overblown idea of your own self importance zzzzzzzzzz

[Tommy_K]

let's see

60 ppl times 6 hits = 360 hits in a war
average ~500 ip (including downing wall etc)
that makes 180k ip per war

100 minutes rest needed beween wars to regain health, makes 160 minutes per battle cylce

72 hours in a war devided by 160 minutes is 27 battles

27*180k = 4.8M ip total max in best case withouth using gold
that wouldn't have gotten you close to top 25 :P

*note this is asuming all 60 members will be online for every single war during the 3 days

[Skunkworx]

To anyone who spends serious cash on this game take a read below. This is taken from ngmoco's blog a company that ran a few very similar games to CC, I played 2 of them spent a very small amount of cash on them but eventually I lost interest.


Important Service Announcement for We Rule, GodFinger, Touch Pets Cats & Touch Pets Dogs 2

Players,

On March 31, 2013, we will end support and service for the following ngmoco products: We Rule, GodFinger, Touch Pets Cats, and Touch Pets Dogs 2. When service ends, these server-based games will no longer be available for play.

These games will be removed from the App Store and Google Play on February 1, 2013 and all new in-app purchases have already been disabled. If you have downloaded one of these games, you can continue to play it until March 31, 2013. All previous, unused in-app purchases will also remain available to use until March 31, 2013.

We’ve put a lot of love into these products and they have been played by millions of players in their lifetime. We hope you have enjoyed these products and we’ll continue to bring new and exciting games to Mobage on a regular basis.

Thank you for your time and support.



A quick search will show you they still had hundreds of thousands of players still spending money when they pulled the plug.

Nothing lasts for ever.

So make the most of it.

[BigMoney]

Gold spender? Overblown idea of your own self importance zzzzzzzzzz

The first sentence was when it became clear that you had absolutely no clue as to the scope of gold spending that is done at the top.