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  1. #76
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    Depends on what your cause is, right?

    #smug
    Quote Originally Posted by murf View Post
    Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...
    Still mad at Bostick.

    I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipstik View Post
    Depends on what your cause is, right?

    #smug
    Well played. Carry on.

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    #moresmuglessfilling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawyer View Post
    #moresmuglessfilling
    Where the problem is, is that any company is geared to take a temporary loss. It's Supply Vs Demand. They have the supply and someone will end up caving and going all out and buying gold. Thus, the demand will be there the second day for teams - even participating in the 24 no gold, to purchase enough gold to play catch up.

    It's like the failed attempts to lower gas by having a NO GAS day. It WILL NOT hurt them because they know that you will need gas tomorrow to get to work, so if not today, tomorrow!!!

    However, it's been pointed out that this IS NOT meant to cripple them, as I just showed it will not. It will get their attention and they will take notice of the drop in income. The fact that an Admin member already deleted the original thread and made note that he/she will bring these issues up, means that SOMEONE has seen it. Even if he's the ONLY person that does, when the gold isn't purchased and someone asks why, he will have to say something.
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    ... if you believe you can buy a first place prize, knock yourself out buying one
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    The top 10 syndicate prize is now 3% more IP? Did they just changed that or it's been there for a while?

    I was wondering if that 24hr thing will be honored, it's just like prisoners' dilemma and the prize is so good.

    Here is the estimate, considering a top 3 syndicate gains 20million IP in total and each hits gains 300 IP, full IP bonus 25%, ignore free hits, failed hits and wall hits (you can assume part of free hits goes to the wall, which makes our estimate here more close to reality). Then the gold needed to refill HP will be like 333,000 or 222 vaults.

    However with additional 3% IP gain, IP bonus will be 28%, the results are: 325,000 or 217 vaults. I don't know how top syndicates value these gold, but any top 10 syndicate will save at least some vaults with that item.
    No Gold Forever

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkppkj View Post
    I've seen these complaints on the MW forums too.

    My question is, what would happen if you sat out a war or two? What if a top faction stopped spending ridiculous amounts of gold and had to deal with the indignity of not winning every event or placing near the top of every event? What if the game is more fun when events are going on for us moderate players who regularly ignore the game for days at a time regardless of event scheduling as we feel our real lives around virtual events in silly game?

    I don't mean to be offensive with my question, and I understand that the biggest spenders should have the most say on how GREE does things. I guess I just don't understand why the incidence of an event compels people to participate in every single event or quit the game altogether.
    Actually this post gets close to what I think might be Gree's economic motivation behind more frequent wars. Having frequent wars gives new syndicates, players and gold spenders a chance to rise higher in the ranks, by beating tapped-out veterans, thus giving them an incentive to spend more gold and blooding a whole new crop of gold spenders. No-one really knows except Gree, but it could be more profitable for them to drive volume this way across all their games. Afterall, the top ten syndicate "cartel" only comprises 600 payers max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince the Fist View Post
    Actually this post gets close to what I think might be Gree's economic motivation behind more frequent wars. Having frequent wars gives new syndicates, players and gold spenders a chance to rise higher in the ranks, by beating tapped-out veterans, thus giving them an incentive to spend more gold and blooding a whole new crop of gold spenders. No-one really knows except Gree, but it could be more profitable for them to drive volume this way across all their games. Afterall, the top ten syndicate "cartel" only comprises 600 payers max.
    I think you're giving them far too much credit by crediting them with any sort of coherent business strategy.

    Pretty sure the line of thought was this: first few syndicate wars made a lot of money, why not have them four times as often? What could possibly go wrong?

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    Once a month event is enough,we dont need more than that,we all played all gree games and had time for them,now we barely can manage one..Its more as work than fun! Change it to be more about fun,let us breathe s bit..Yes allways will be "wise" members of this forum that will tell us pause a event,you dont need to play it..If i start to think as that,and pause one event or two,i cant compete anymore with others,that is just a way to easily quit the game,just try it pause few events and you can say goodbuy to your game when you look where are others with stats and where you will be far far behind
    Last edited by DragCro; 05-16-2013 at 02:04 AM.
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    I play CC,MW and KA too.And for me is it too much with the events.Greeee slow finally down.One event in 5-6 is more then enough.Or u loose many gold and gem players.And with your famous new bonus program, have u ****ed it up.I think the most from us cant spend 1000 dollars in month.
    I personally have enough and will play for free now.
    Gree wake finally up and hear to your players what they want or u are soon without players

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    What i found amusing is that last year people complain nothing to do in the game because event are not as frequent and there were days where there was nothing to do but collect cash for buildings, so it took 6 month develop Syndicate function and they gave us time to purchase bonuses and now you are complaining there are too many events. Maybe i shouldn't say anything because i am in a camping syndicate so the war event has no effect on my progress in the game.

    Two choices

    1) Gree stop running events

    2) Accept that Gree will run events whenever they want and whatever time frame they want if they want to do war daily it's their choice they own the game. We are not shareholders so we have no say.
    Last edited by Bala82; 05-16-2013 at 02:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bala82 View Post
    What i found amusing is that last year people complain nothing to do in the game because event are not as frequent and there were days where there was nothing to do but collect cash for buildings, so it took 6 month develop Syndicate function and they gave us time to purchase bonuses and now you are complaining there are too many events. Maybe i shouldn't say anything because i am in a camping syndicate so the war event has no effect on my progress in the game.

    Two choices

    1) Gree stop running events

    2) Accept that Gree will run events whenever they want and whatever time frame they want if they want to do war daily it's their choice they own the game. We are not shareholders so we have no say.
    So do you not agree with the adage that the customer is always right?

    No customers = no game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recruit View Post
    So do you not agree with the adage that the customer is always right?

    No customers = no game
    In my experience, the customer is almost never right.
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    Bala - Your missing the point, Sitting in a camping Syndicate, for a year, relies on one purpose - When you enter the game, with your monster stats - You've got nothing to play with!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recruit View Post
    So do you not agree with the adage that the customer is always right?

    No customers = no game
    Well think about it, the game is free we don't pay to use the game so it's a choice . Only player who want spend money can . You got two set of customers , Free customers and paid customer according to you paying customer should get priority over free customers . Free customer can't complain because there getting service for free but paid customers should be listened to.

    There will always be customers in this game so you point No customers = no game is incorrect.

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