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  1. #16
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    I have exactly 200 defense points, and my defense score is 38k...but I have people with an attack of only 25k who successfully rob my hood....their win/loss ratio in my hood isnt that good, but with enough stamina they can get alot of cash at times...my 12's are timed and my 24's....each putting out roughly 3 mill total....so worth them to keep attacking...

    So I'm on the fence with skill points...especially after the latest shotgun and adding 100 skill points, and I noticed very minimal change in win/loss ratio on the same people as opposed to before I got the attack points...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal View Post
    I have exactly 200 defense points, and my defense score is 38k...but I have people with an attack of only 25k who successfully rob my hood....
    The thing about defense is that it is already misleading when it comes to defense buildings :/
    Level: 238 - Mafia: 500
    Fights Won/Lost: 42,695/7,013
    Robberies Won/Lost: 22,601/587
    Attack: 53,285,488
    Defense: 42,211,410
    IPH: $14,972,834
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    Quote Originally Posted by nopenopenope View Post
    Since you're continually posting the same thing over and over without stating any facts, I have taken time out of my day to do the work for you...

    We have long known about that Skill Point formula from many sources. The formula quite possibly may have changed, but it's all we have to go on and it was extracted from original game data. See here:


    from this thread: http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...t-vs-Def/page3

    This was also discussed by CCM in a now deleted thread:


    I've also already told you that the results screen was changed that no longer shows as much information as before. That was explained here:

    http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...reen#post62022

    and here:



    and here:
    I have the facts to support my opinion. You can refer to that thread. So your claim "without stating any facts" is not valid. And I'm just trying to share someone with my opinion. I wouldn't repeat if they didn't ask. I'm sorry for that if it really bothers you.
    I definitely agree with you that skill points play an important role, but at least it does not increase the displayed attack points in the profile (not referring to fight screen), right? It will change the variable "mult", but I prefer to believe this variable only affects the random factor during a fight, and it's not just simply added to the base attack points. You have to prove me wrong by showing it's just simple addition. Or else, I would still stick to my opinion: skill points does not increase your base attack points, but it increases your chance of winning by adjusting variable "mult", the mechanism of which is known only to someone like CCM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzaghi View Post
    The best solution ever: REDUCE YOUR MAFIA SIZE TO 490 SO THAT THEY WON'T NOTICE YOU. IF 500ERS ARE TALKING IN THE FORUM ABOUT THE ABSENCE OF 499ERS AND STARTING ATTACKING 490ERS, GO TO 480 Trust me, they will get tired of this because their ultimate goal is to do TL, not to attack you.
    Thanks for the lulz, hopefully Burn & Co. visits you soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nopenopenope View Post
    Thanks for the lulz, hopefully Burn & Co. visits you soon.
    I don't see any points/logic between your posts. I was sharing my opinion with someone and you said it's wrong. After I proved I was not wrong, you searched my old posts and posted one here. So what? Prove I'm a coward? At that time, I was just in level 60~70, far from rats levels. I hate being forced by others, so just didn't favor the rat-catching idea and brainstormed a solution. That's what happened. It does not prove anything. Even if you are right, I'm a coward. Does it mean what I said here is wrong? Don't see the point of connecting these utterly unrelated posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzaghi View Post
    Does it mean what I said here is wrong?
    Yep pretty much. I guess Tramp Stamp knew nothing about this game after all... Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nopenopenope View Post
    Yep pretty much. I guess Tramp Stamp knew nothing about this game after all... Carry on.
    I think we need one post that sums up everything that is known rather than piecing together pits of information from all over the forums. Or...do we know nothing?
    Level: 238 - Mafia: 500
    Fights Won/Lost: 42,695/7,013
    Robberies Won/Lost: 22,601/587
    Attack: 53,285,488
    Defense: 42,211,410
    IPH: $14,972,834
    Syndicate: HTC White
    Updated: 5/21/14 11:21 PM EST
    Add me! - 544754891
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    Quote Originally Posted by PawnXIIX View Post
    I think we need one post that sums up everything that is known rather than piecing together pits of information from all over the forums. Or...do we know nothing?
    I encourage you to do so by all means, but this is good enough for me:

    http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...ock-again..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nopenopenope View Post
    I encourage you to do so by all means
    Yeah I saw that. I just had a revelation though, so i'm going to go hide away in my little cave now
    Level: 238 - Mafia: 500
    Fights Won/Lost: 42,695/7,013
    Robberies Won/Lost: 22,601/587
    Attack: 53,285,488
    Defense: 42,211,410
    IPH: $14,972,834
    Syndicate: HTC White
    Updated: 5/21/14 11:21 PM EST
    Add me! - 544754891
    Add me! - 113853218

    .:|Twitter: https://twitter.com/Saw_JaD |:.
    .:|Help me get a partnership! - www.youtube.com/user/eQXIIX |:.

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    It does not show on the attack screen, it's hidden so your opponents don't know how much you have allocated to skill points
    // Lvl: 250 // 488 394 051 // Atk: 9,917k // Def: 9,602k // IpH: $24,290,680
    // Lvl: 147 // 365 655 496 // Atk: 6,954k // Def: 6,790k // IpH: $12,586,132
    // Lvl: 79 // 233 936 800 // Atk: 5,978k // Def: 5,901k // IPH: $1,572,478

    As of 1-27-14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal View Post
    I have exactly 200 defense points, and my defense score is 38k...but I have people with an attack of only 25k who successfully rob my hood....their win/loss ratio in my hood isnt that good, but with enough stamina they can get alot of cash at times...my 12's are timed and my 24's....each putting out roughly 3 mill total....so worth them to keep attacking...

    So I'm on the fence with skill points...especially after the latest shotgun and adding 100 skill points, and I noticed very minimal change in win/loss ratio on the same people as opposed to before I got the attack points...
    Read Peacock's explanation of defense in the best of the best...synopsis: defense buildings are misleading and defense against robberies is 50% of true defense
    // Lvl: 250 // 488 394 051 // Atk: 9,917k // Def: 9,602k // IpH: $24,290,680
    // Lvl: 147 // 365 655 496 // Atk: 6,954k // Def: 6,790k // IpH: $12,586,132
    // Lvl: 79 // 233 936 800 // Atk: 5,978k // Def: 5,901k // IPH: $1,572,478

    As of 1-27-14

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    It's a wonderful equation
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