The Hate Mob are ruining the forum.

[JB5]

You are right there JBS. But the fact is, when people ask for help, they do get it. At least as best as anyone here can provide it. Further, I don't recall it ever coming from the likes of dump, vega, brownout, or even Rob. But negativity towards the game aside, I can easily find that help coming from AO, DM, or any other multitude of complainers. Yes even groovy and dew, in his own cryptic way.

As I said earlier, people have tried going the GREE route to correct things. Now they are trying the player route. Not that the players are to blame, but to say the share none of the responsibility for the current situation is preposterous. While it may be a futile attempt, I'd rather see them trying to do something than sitting back and doing nothing to get GREE to change.

I didn't say that there was no help given to anyone who asked. The problem is, when someone asks for help they have to sort through all the anti-gree, anti-spender bs to find the answers. Oh, and the "Here's the best advice you'll every get... Delete the app now!" crap. Those types of posts, and many of the threads that are on the forums nowadays (you could easily include this thread), need to be in the Off Topic section. This section is for "General" info and issues.

I've played for over 2 yrs, been top 1500 right on up to top 25. Now comfortably resting in the top 200 range. Myself, like many others, have all but given up on the forums. They used to be full of info and there was, mostly, respectful communication between players and mods. And people made a much better attempt to stay on topic when posting within threads. Now, it's everyone standing on their soap box calling for boycotts or claiming so and so are cheaters.

In the end, this is nothing more than entertainment. You get what you pay/play for. There's no victory to be won. Whatever happens in this game, or on the forums, has no significant impact on anything. If you feel slighted because you've paid real money to play this game, which I have also, then your thought process needs to adjust a little. Whether it's MW, CoC, or any other app game, it's money wasted. We do what we do because that's what we chose. This thread is just asking all of us to more civilized about it.

[JB5]

And as far as the names you mentioned that don't help.... Check the history bud. They all have have helped numerous times in the past. Seriously, there's a ton of threads here dating all the way back to the beginning.

[J-manKometh96]

I said I don't recall any, not that it wasn't the case, and that I would gladly edit my post should someone actually show otherwise. I did however just go back through the first six pages of threads, which dates back about a month, and of all the threads asking for help about something that wasn't a plea for GREE to fix a long known issue, I only found cases where help was offered without any of this so called negativity we are told exists. Threads btw, that none of those I mentioned above as not helping actually participated in.

To be fair, there were very few of those types of threads. For the most part, it's as I've said all along. There are no new players to the game, so everyone pretty much knows what there is to know, so all that's left is to discuss the issues GREE won't correct. And as I also said before, in this thread even, as goes the game, so goes the forum. If the game is in a sad state of being, so it will be in the forum. If the game takes an upswing, so will the forum. It's not rocket science or brain surgery or some sort of mystic magic.

[groovy shags]

I can't imagine any "new" players downloading this game after reading a few of the reviews in the store. The only new players are current players that recently upgraded their phones or tablets, then started a new account. So they already know what the future holds. lol

[ZAN Quality Control]

The "Hate Mob", a nice term for people complaining about how the game has failed in so many ways. If you must use a label; try to show some respect for other people. No one forces anyone to post here, read anything, or respond to another persons position/opinion. The people who manage this game care about one thing only....

[groovy shags]

I apologize for my for my incendiary posts. This is a known issue, and is being looked into. A fix in my programming will be in an upcoming update. My CPU is a neuro-net processor, a learning computer. The more time I spend in the GREE, the more I learn.

Hasta la vista, Baby

[J-manKometh96]

Be careful groovy. We all know the next update will not only fail to address your neural net programming, but introduce a new issue as well. You might want to turn auto-update off and let others test it before trying it.

[Mila Relyt]

Philosophical question Rob. Would you continue to patronise a restaurant where portion sizes got less and less, cooking quality got worse and worse, the serving staff ignore you complaints, and management charge the same regardless of all this, top dollar. Of course you wouldn't. But many people used to love this restaurant, and want to love it again, dearly hoping it would return to its glory days. But all they see is you and your mates rewarding the owners for this rapidly deteriorating service by continuing to pay them top dollar, regardless of what's served up, crowding the doors for every "special".
What would your response be to that scenario?

I used to buy half gallon ice cream and it was good. Then they downsized it to three-quarters of a half gallon. I still buy 3/4 of a half gallon of ice cream and it is still good.

[Danger Mouse]

I used to buy half gallon ice cream and it was good. Then they downsized it to three-quarters of a half gallon. I still buy 3/4 of a half gallon of ice cream and it is still good.

And if it was frozen milk they tried to pass off as ice cream?

[Vegaman]

But isn't ice cream just frozen milk ?

Directions....
In a medium bowl, stir together cold milk, vanilla, condensed milk and salt. Beat with an electric mixer until stiff peaks form. ...
Pour into shallow 2 quart dish, cover and freeze for 4 hours, stirring once after 2 hours or when edges start to harden.

[Danger Mouse]

But isn't ice cream just frozen milk ?

Directions....
In a medium bowl, stir together cold milk, vanilla, condensed milk and salt. Beat with an electric mixer until stiff peaks form. ...
Pour into shallow 2 quart dish, cover and freeze for 4 hours, stirring once after 2 hours or when edges start to harden.

As you've posted, no it ain't.

[Helios Von Elisar]

I actually think "Hate Mob" is spot on. When all your posts are negative and you rant on and on about how you hate the game now and what it has become since whatever date you started what other term would be appropriate. We aren't throwing everyone who complains about an issue into that group. If you play the game, you've ran into glitches and posted about it - I do it also. But there are those who are relentless.

I've been playing for 3 1/2 years and I don't think that much in the game has changed. Stat inflation - always been here, always gets worse. Bugs - ditto. New events have been tried, some dropped, some kept, some evolve. Big spenders - known a lot of them. Gold free players - know a lot of them also.

I'm in a top 100 faction, 50-60 people who like to play and we do our part. We complain about some events and look forward to others. Everyone has preferences. I like RBE and EB but don't like WD. Others are the opposite. But we still participate in all events because we work as a team. And if the leader says pass on an event, we do what he says. If he tells me to hit the wall, I do it and don't worry about points. It's a simulated war game and works best with a chain of command.

What has changed is customer service and the attitude on the forum. Customer service used to work. I only turned in 2 problem tickets and that has been a while, but the issues were resolved in a few days. Sadly, that's not working now. And the attitude here has gone sour with a few people leading the charge. There's very little knowledge exchange now. If you post a question someone is sure to tell you to quit playing before you waste too much time and energy - and money. For every positive post there are ten negative posts. Usually by the same people.

I don't understand why Gree allows it. If you came into my house and started complaining about it I'd boot your butt right out the door. Constructive criticism is ok, destructive attacks should never be allowed.

[Speed ump]

Spot on Helios. The same issues have pretty much always existed, they're not new. We all wish for different, but if anyone expects big changes at this point in time, they really havnt been paying attention. Customer service was never great, but has certainly lost a lot since CJs time there.

[JB5]

I said I don't recall any, not that it wasn't the case, and that I would gladly edit my post should someone actually show otherwise. I did however just go back through the first six pages of threads, which dates back about a month, and of all the threads asking for help about something that wasn't a plea for GREE to fix a long known issue, I only found cases where help was offered without any of this so called negativity we are told exists. Threads btw, that none of those I mentioned above as not helping actually participated in.

To be fair, there were very few of those types of threads. For the most part, it's as I've said all along. There are no new players to the game, so everyone pretty much knows what there is to know, so all that's left is to discuss the issues GREE won't correct. And as I also said before, in this thread even, as goes the game, so goes the forum. If the game is in a sad state of being, so it will be in the forum. If the game takes an upswing, so will the forum. It's not rocket science or brain surgery or some sort of mystic magic.

6 pages out of 828 justifies what? Sorry to seem rude, that's not my intention. I would be willing to show you the threads that you're asking about, but to Necro a thread is a violation of the TOS. But, they are there. When issues that were new to me would arise, I would search through the threads to see if there was related issues in the past. And as other players have posted, these issues are not new. I just took the time to educate myself before I assumed I had a point.

As far as new players go, there is plenty. Most end up in a faction that uses a chat app. With that chat app, they learn more about the game then they can here, anymore. The forum is failing because most of us are tired of the same banter that has existed for some time now, and doesn't seem to be ending any time soon. I'm actually surprised in myself for getting caught up in this debate with you. Not that I don't respect your opinion, or you. Because I don't know you, so I don't judge. But, because these are the types of discussions that have personally turned me away from the forums. So I no longer direct new players to the forum.

The game changed when Gree bought it. Since then, the basic structure and play of the game hasn't change much, if at all. Spend or fall behind is Gree's message. It's up to you, if you decide to keep playing the game, to find a faction that is comfortable for your level of play. Once that happens you can kick back, relax, and enjoy yourself. Because if you can't enjoy it, you're wasting a lot more than just money.

[truthteller]

I used to buy half gallon ice cream and it was good. Then they downsized it to three-quarters of a half gallon. I still buy 3/4 of a half gallon of ice cream and it is still good.

In your post you are clearly stating that the quality of the ice cream remained the same.......good........as oppose to MW, which quality keep going non stop downward less and less quality
you cannot compare your ice cream to MW that way

now, lets say you buy the same ice cream you love..........then go home and find out that it is already expire, thus the quality is bad, would you still eat it? or would you take it back and ask for a good one...................and what would you do if when you try to return/exchage it, the store says, sorry all sales finals and no return/exchange allow, you should had read the expiration date before your bought it........................would you then keep buying at that store???