Originally Posted by Skywall
Thats pretty good, mr. How many months you been been playin?
Thats pretty good, mr. How many months you been been playin?
the point I was actually making was that there is no best way to play the game, the best way is what suits you best.
that said I still don't think nightclubs are as great as people make out, they always in the top 3 of the list target wise regardless of level to robbers and if you have a life getting 4 collections a day is virtually impossible.
its impossible for me to check my phone at work unless on break for 2 reasons, firstly its a production facility I work in so there is no down time and also I only get signal in the break room.
I don't care if you agree with my opinion, its my opinion so move on and find someone who cares.
rough stats:- level 257 - 9att 4.5def - 322mil iph
that is opinion, not fact. when you say the "stats" of a building you must take into account the payout cycle which for most is a problem on the 6hr buildings, this dramatically reduces the return on these buildings.
you also said upgrade time isn't relevant, this is absurd as with back to back LTB's a week long upgrade is a logistical nightmare, how often are there posts on here from people moaning that they have just started a night club upgrade when an unannounced LTB pops up, bang they have lost a week of a time critical event!
as per my sig I've been here for a long time, among the longest serving players now so have all the good 12/24/48 buildings, I was here before events let alone syndicates.
my bulk group of 24's are as follows:-
2x L10 basket ball court
2x rock café L3/4
2x condo L8/5
2x loft L10/6
2x L10 movie theatres
2x toyshop L7/3
my 24's are numerous!
2x transtech L5/3
2x fishstore L1/3(garbage)
1x meat factory L4(garbage)
2x L6 house(garbage)
2x throwback arcade L10/1
2x slice rink L10/1
2x Dominican restaurant L5/4(garbage)
2x L1 hotel
2x L2 magic playhouse(garbage)
2x L1 crematorium
2x upscale club L1/2
2x beachside inn L5/1
2x L4 casino
2x brownstone L7/1
2x palm hotel L4/2
2x gentlemans club L4/2
2x pawnshop L5/4(garbage)
2x pagoda L10/9
48 buildings are
2x dockside mill L3/1
2x L3 museum
2x L2 office building
2x internet company L9/4
I then have
2x WSFG L6/1
2x smoked fowl deli L8/1
2x NIS L5/1
2x to die for designs L10/1
2x chop shop L8/1
2x beachfront retreat L5/1
1x slay bells L7
1x shiners still L5
2x bloody barbershop L10/1
1x haunted mansion L10
I don't care if you agree with my opinion, its my opinion so move on and find someone who cares.
rough stats:- level 257 - 9att 4.5def - 322mil iph
[QUOTE=therealbengie;1250092]that is opinion, not fact. when you say the "stats" of a building you must take into account the payout cycle which for most is a problem on the 6hr buildings, this dramatically reduces the return on these buildings.
you also said upgrade time isn't relevant, this is absurd as with back to back LTB's a week long upgrade is a logistical nightmare, how often are there posts on here from people moaning that they have just started a night club upgrade when an unannounced LTB pops up, bang they have lost a week of a time critical event!
as per my sig I've been here for a long time, among the longest serving players now so have all the good 12/24/48 buildings, I was here before events let alone syndicates.
my bulk group of 24's are as follows:-
Why is it a problem to collect NC 2 times aday? Can only get better..lol..
I have 2x lvl 10 night clubs that make 36m every time I collect ontime... So if I get 2 on time collections and 1 robbed collection that gives me 14m I will make at least 86m a day from them... Both of my lvl 10 pagodas make 50 mil a day if I collect on time...
I think having high lvl night clubs are essential to getting your ltbs to a high lvl... Plain and simple the nightclubs > all others...
i totally agree.
but i thought we were talking money-wise.
regarding your buildings:
most of the ltbs are so old (8-9 months ago) that almost no one has them.
and all other 24h buildings that u wrote (all combined) aren't as good as my NCs even if i were collecting them only twice a day.
btw, do u realize that your Toy Box and both of your Transtech Buildings haven't finished paying back for themselves??
if you wouldn't have bought them in the first place you would have more money now!
only players that know they are going to commit to the game for more than 13 months should upgrade those.
therealbengie, & CCC-syn both make valid points...
NC is the best building in the game, however maybe not if you can only collect 1.4 x's (1 robbed, 1 full)...The only way to do this is to build a simple spreadsheet and only use 35% (1.4 / 4) of the payout for nightclubs and see how they compare to 100% of the payout for LTBs and Casinos, etc....I know someone built one for the forum a long time ago, but I can't remember who the posted was
Secondly, upgrade time is very important, but only if you have unlimited cash....I make over $650m/day and even I can't continually upgrade my WSFG and NIS's. My WSFG to L9, will cost me $3.9B (30% reduction) and only take 52 hrs (25% & 3% reduction) to upgrade. I will only have made $1.4B during that upgrade, so I can't turn around an upgrade it to L10 or even my other one to L9. This is when the NC's long upgrade times are ok. You get to do a very high ROI upgrade while replenishing your bank to do upgrades which are better return on upgrade hours.
This argument of ROI (increase in IPH / upgrade cost) vs $$/hr/hr (increase in IPH / upgrade time) is a balancing act and has been debated on this forum ever since LTBs started.
// Lvl: 250 // 488 394 051 // Atk: 9,917k // Def: 9,602k // IpH: $24,290,680
// Lvl: 147 // 365 655 496 // Atk: 6,954k // Def: 6,790k // IpH: $12,586,132
// Lvl: 79 // 233 936 800 // Atk: 5,978k // Def: 5,901k // IPH: $1,572,478
As of 1-27-14
Thanks for responding. I didn't think anyone would...lol. What is "MT"? Also, are you saying I should be able to upgrade a lot of buildings to level 10 in one week? I think the only things I have at 10 are the throwback arcade LTB from 2 months ago, a pawn shop, ice cream shop and a low end defense building. Seems like ALL of those took longer than a week each. Are you saying I should spend gold to upgrade faster? I don't use much gold.
I try to read as much as I can on these forums...especially the how to guides. The problem I have is a lot of the old timers use abbreviations and vernacular that I haven't figured out yet (like MT).
Also, can someone explained what a type A building is? Is there also a Type B? C? What's the difference?
Almost two years.
Last edited by Skywall; 03-28-2014 at 11:04 AM.
Code:..............457 547 386
Level:..............62
Attack:............89,459,000
Defense:..........75,474,000
Income/hr:......$60,919,000
Updated:.........24 MAR 15
MT is Movie Theater....
Type A vs Type B buildings are how the payouts progress...Here are the first three levels to give you an idea: Type A = 1x, 3x, 6x. Type B = 1x, 2x, 3.5x.
So you can that Type A can be very powerful to build your income. Type A buildings are a few starter ones. Then Italians, MTs, Lofts, NCs and Pagodas. These buildings help build your IPH faster.
Not sure what the other poster is talking about with upgrading to L10 in a week. Always be building and upgrading.
// Lvl: 250 // 488 394 051 // Atk: 9,917k // Def: 9,602k // IpH: $24,290,680
// Lvl: 147 // 365 655 496 // Atk: 6,954k // Def: 6,790k // IpH: $12,586,132
// Lvl: 79 // 233 936 800 // Atk: 5,978k // Def: 5,901k // IPH: $1,572,478
As of 1-27-14
Murf, u make 650m a day?!?!
And u say it's not enough… that's unbelievable!
I make (after robbing) 100m :'(
My question for u is how often do your WSFG and NIS get robbed?
a guide i wrote long time ago for planning the best hood and best income:
http://ccc.tfn.co.il/hood-guide.php
(suggestion & improvements for the guide are welcome)
Thanks Murf! I am constantly building and upgrading something. I think I just get a little confused as to what to do next, and also a little impatient with the longer builds and upgrades. Thanks for the info on the type A vs type B. I would think the obvious answer for me right now is to focus on the type A buildings.
Are pagodas an older limited time building? I see them in rival hoods on rare occasion, but can't find where to buy one
I just checked out the guide you have linked in your sig. I like it because you don't get too complex. I've seen some other spreadsheets that are loaded with info that is probably great, but a little overwhelming for a newer player. Your's is very direct
Last edited by Morgz; 03-28-2014 at 04:17 PM.
I'm just saying $650m / day isn't enough to always upgrade my best $$/hr/hr building (increase in IPH / upgrade time). The high end LTBs (WSFG and NIS) have very quick upgrade times, not enough time to replenish all the money it cost to upgrade them. So, in between I have to a cheaper / longer upgrade like Casinos, Palms (or even NCs).
My WSFG get robbed infrequently because they (along with my 24's and some others) are the ones I make sure to collect regularly. So it gets robbed once a week or so. I can usually make it through a whole cycle, let it get robbed overnight, then collect first thing in the morning.
My NIS's get robbed every 4-5 days, if robbed I collect late at night and then every 20 hrs after, until they robbed overnight, then I leave them uncollected again all day and collect right before bed and start the cycle again.
// Lvl: 250 // 488 394 051 // Atk: 9,917k // Def: 9,602k // IpH: $24,290,680
// Lvl: 147 // 365 655 496 // Atk: 6,954k // Def: 6,790k // IpH: $12,586,132
// Lvl: 79 // 233 936 800 // Atk: 5,978k // Def: 5,901k // IPH: $1,572,478
As of 1-27-14
Pagodas were the first LTB I think....
In general, I'd say the Type A building upgrades start to equate to Type B upgrades about 2 levels ahead. Meaning a Level 7 Type-A upgrade is similar to a Level 5 Type-B upgrade. That's being general but it's a rough rule of thumb.
// Lvl: 250 // 488 394 051 // Atk: 9,917k // Def: 9,602k // IpH: $24,290,680
// Lvl: 147 // 365 655 496 // Atk: 6,954k // Def: 6,790k // IpH: $12,586,132
// Lvl: 79 // 233 936 800 // Atk: 5,978k // Def: 5,901k // IPH: $1,572,478
As of 1-27-14
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