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    Master of Musings Joeycool's Avatar
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    @blondealex. What could have happened is that the person had a lot of explosives when they attacked you that they have gradually lost over time. If they did not replace them, When you check in on their stats they would be significantly lower than when they attacked you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeycool View Post
    @blondealex. What could have happened is that the person had a lot of explosives when they attacked you that they have gradually lost over time. If they did not replace them, When you check in on their stats they would be significantly lower than when they attacked you.
    That was my first thought. I logged about 20 min after the robbery and checked, they had no explosives, and have Not had any since. All that I can figure is that my true defense has to be double. I know the building defense is just over half what my profile shows, so thought if the total value was double the attacking person that it would be safe.
    @counter sniper - wasn't whining on the forum. There have been many discussions on here related to atk vs def. The reason that I had attitude is because in my initial post I said that I had triple digit def skill points. Meaning I had already thought of that, and it would have been impossible for them to have enough to make a difference. Yet I still get 2 replies saying "maybe it was skill points". The person's stats weren't good enough for them to be rolling with enough points that could have made a difference.

    Bottom line - I know that no matter what someone can rob anyone. It would be nice however to know what value all these Gatling turrets, Maui Thai centers, Body Gaurd agencies, etc that I have been buying add up too.
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    What's to say he has twice your skill points in attack vs defense. My camper account will eventually have 500+ attack skill points invested. So having 3 digits does not make your invulnerable.

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    500+ is an awful lot of attack skill points.
    GREE(D) is trying to put the fun back into Funzio.

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    Still accounts for only 5,000 attack points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifty View Post
    500+ is an awful lot of attack skill points.
    I know. Imagine that coupled with top 1% economy, max M4s (will take a while to farm with 260 energy), best respect items and definitely the best purchasable items including explosives. Like to give hardcore gold players a run for their money especially with the help of Tapjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tramp Stamp View Post
    Still accounts for only 5,000 attack points.
    I'm making reference to the attack skills multiplier which has never been disclosed by Funzio. Hopefully even people with defense stats north of 100,000 will not be able to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emcee View Post
    I'm making reference to the attack skills multiplier which has never been disclosed by Funzio.
    But reversed engineered by forum members. The formula is

    mult = 1.09 + 0.09 * (level - 1)
    if mult > 10 then mult = 10


    Quote Originally Posted by emcee View Post
    Hopefully even people with defense stats north of 100,000 will not be able to win.
    You're dreaming, unless you're talking about people with 50x level 10 Bodyguard Agencies.
    Last edited by Tramp Stamp; 02-27-2012 at 08:12 PM.

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    The only thing I can explain why people with say less than half attack relative to the posted defense score is the multifplier. If that is indeed the case there must be another variable that comes into play to determine an attack outcome.

    Perhaps the reversed engineered formula is off by a decimal point which may explain things.
    Last edited by emcee; 02-27-2012 at 09:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emcee View Post
    The only thing I can explain why people with say less than half attack relative to the posted defense score is the multifplier. If that is indeed the case there must be another variable that comes into play to determine an attack outcome.

    Perhaps the reversed engineered formula is off by a decimal point which may explain things.
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    I'm not claiming authority on this one, but I do think expecting skill points to crack 100k def is lunacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tramp Stamp View Post
    I'm not claiming authority on this one, but I do think expecting skill points to crack 100k def is lunacy.
    Maybe not but you are the man when it comes to the math.

    So has it been determined whether the skill points show up in the numbers displayed in the att/rob result screen and/or the players stat screen.
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    Skill points are not included in the calculation.

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    It may be crazy to hope to crack someone with 100k defense but I will give it a go. It will take a very long time to get posted attack score over 50k (M4s, Whips, etc) and will see what effect the 500+ attack skill points will do. Stay tuned 3 years from now

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    Payam may be in a nursing home by then.

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