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    Att vs Def

    Going to keep this as short as poss.

    Respect to all the forum members been a fan for a while.

    I am at 55k def (around 50k real def). I collect on time mostly but when I don't I get robbed by ppl with between 29k - 32k att. my wall goes green, red, green, red etc. A couple have been kind enough to let me know they won 1/5 or 1/7.

    I stipulate that if a person is willing to spend enough stamina on robbing a building of yours, the defense for that building will slowly break down no matter your defense and eventually you just lose.

    I've put a lot of points into fending off enemy attacks as well, but isn't it as it reads 'better chance against attacks'?

    Appreciate any thoughts.

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    I don't worry about defense.

    I bank my 40% and go attack/rob someone else who is weaker and richer than I am.
    GREE(D) is trying to put the fun back into Funzio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnno View Post
    Going to keep this as short as poss.

    Respect to all the forum members been a fan for a while.

    I am at 55k def (around 50k real def). I collect on time mostly but when I don't I get robbed by ppl with between 29k - 32k att. my wall goes green, red, green, red etc. A couple have been kind enough to let me know they won 1/5 or 1/7.

    I stipulate that if a person is willing to spend enough stamina on robbing a building of yours, the defense for that building will slowly break down no matter your defense and eventually you just lose.

    I've put a lot of points into fending off enemy attacks as well, but isn't it as it reads 'better chance against attacks'?

    Appreciate any thoughts.
    As I understand it your defense score is cut in half for robberies so if your att is 50k then theoretically someone with a 25k att has a shot at winning.
    Though I Wander I Am Not Lost... ~ CS
    Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the women ~ Conan
    Quit CC on 5.16.12 .. lvl 146 .. Attacks 30339 Wins / 141 Losses .. Robberies 13838 Wins / 45 Losses
    Quit KA & MW on 7.06.12 .. Stats = Couldnt Care Less.
    FUNZIO got too GREEdy!

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    That would explain why I get robbed by people with such low attack numbers.
    GREE(D) is trying to put the fun back into Funzio.

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    I'm at a loss on this too Johnno. I had thought for a long time that if my defense was double what the person trying to rob me, they would not have a chance. Last week I had one of the red/green/red/green walls by someone 15.9K attack, at the time I had around 31K defense. Well they were still over half, so I wrote it off. Then over the weekend someone with 14.9K attack was able to rob a building (albeit only one hit) when I had 32.1K defense. I have yet to lose in a fight though to someone that is that much lower than me.

    I don't care about the cash because it was a small amount. It ticks me off that I've spent gold on def buildings along with a ton of game cash and my defense can still be hit by weak players. I don't want to hear the skill point argument either, my def skill points are in the triple digits.
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    It's probably because some with a low "advertised" attack score may have a huge attack skills multiplier. They dumped a lot into attack when leveling up versus into energy, for instance.

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    I think it is that the game design favors attack over defense.
    GREE(D) is trying to put the fun back into Funzio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emcee View Post
    It's probably because some with a low "advertised" attack score may have a huge attack skills multiplier. They dumped a lot into attack when leveling up versus into energy, for instance.
    As I said, my skill points for def is in the triple digits.
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    I think part of the equation is still a roll of the dice. It isn't a straight math formula. That's why I get most of my cash from robberies, only attacking when I have a quest to complete or someone just has a ton of money unsecured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frenda View Post
    I think part of the equation is still a roll of the dice. It isn't a straight math formula. That's why I get most of my cash from robberies, only attacking when I have a quest to complete or someone just has a ton of money unsecured.
    +1 to frenda
    Though I Wander I Am Not Lost... ~ CS
    Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the women ~ Conan
    Quit CC on 5.16.12 .. lvl 146 .. Attacks 30339 Wins / 141 Losses .. Robberies 13838 Wins / 45 Losses
    Quit KA & MW on 7.06.12 .. Stats = Couldnt Care Less.
    FUNZIO got too GREEdy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blondealex View Post
    As I said, my skill points for def is in the triple digits.
    Perhaps their Att Skill Points are higher than your Def Skill Points.
    Though I Wander I Am Not Lost... ~ CS
    Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the women ~ Conan
    Quit CC on 5.16.12 .. lvl 146 .. Attacks 30339 Wins / 141 Losses .. Robberies 13838 Wins / 45 Losses
    Quit KA & MW on 7.06.12 .. Stats = Couldnt Care Less.
    FUNZIO got too GREEdy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CounterSniper View Post
    Perhaps their Att Skill Points are higher than your Def Skill Points.
    Enough to offset a 100% stat advantage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tramp Stamp View Post
    Enough to offset a 100% stat advantage?
    That was my thought, but I let it go. At level 151 with over 20K fights won and 17K+ robberies I probably don't know what I'm talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blondealex View Post
    That was my thought, but I let it go. At level 151 with over 20K fights won and 17K+ robberies I probably don't know what I'm talking about.
    Dont be a smart ass. If you are so frickin superior then don't come to a community forum and whine.

    Its about an exchange of ideas and not attitude.
    Though I Wander I Am Not Lost... ~ CS
    Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the women ~ Conan
    Quit CC on 5.16.12 .. lvl 146 .. Attacks 30339 Wins / 141 Losses .. Robberies 13838 Wins / 45 Losses
    Quit KA & MW on 7.06.12 .. Stats = Couldnt Care Less.
    FUNZIO got too GREEdy!

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    I think real def number doesn't mean much by itself. We need to further divide it into real building def and item def numbers respectively.

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