Tips for holding onto cash past vault limit?

[DFI]

Hopefully you find this to be helpful, but given your stats, I'd actually recommend starting over. I did it myself after I realized I made a ton of mistakes. I made some new ones with my current account, but doing much better. There is a very low bar that you will hit going forward and rather than investing more time in a weak account, you may want to put all of your learnings into a new one. Understand that many of us who aren't in SUP or level 175+ are still adding at least 1-4 million in stats per month given the current inflation. Good luck.

[Wallaster27]

When I had that iph I used my nano techs to get a qucj 20 million for selling them. I also go to the last couple of mission maps and prep the strongest guy. Because you can get almost 20 mil when you beat them. I can easily get 100 mil from using that. But only do the ones that you can attack for free. & like others said don't worry about attacks. Everyone gets attacked. I lush when I get attacked because I only lose a small percentages of my money. What hurts is getting raided. You lose one half of your potential earnings. So make sure to collect as many building as you can at the same time. I have 200 mil right now but haven't lost a dime because of my high defense. And to raise your defense upgrade your boost buildings. & if you don't have the composite factory buy it. If your serious about this game it will be the best gold you've ever spent. My defense is double my attack because of that & other bonuses. Hope this helps

[J V]

I recently asked support this very question and I got a response that the forum might be interested in. I think they meant to write that attacks increase by 1 with every 4 levels, but I am just pasting what they wrote me.

oh nice I was unaware of that formula!

[Justrain]

You can also pre-stage high-value boss targets on the later maps. Leave 1 hit to finish. Sgt Benton on the last map pays like 15-22 mill or so. When you're ready to upgrade just finish the target off and collect the reward from it and build your building.

[Sinner]

Anyone way over vault should just post your level and Name here or start a new list. That way we won't attack you if your on the list ! Really helps if you just don't attack or raid anyone else also. I only attack people who have attacked me first.

[kikl]

try dropping allies, thats what i did, still get nailed every once in a while while nut when i do it hurts, they take over 100 million in raids

[Luuzer]

1) collect always on time
2) prep high stats map bosses
3) use nanos/rail guns/nuclear plants/space centers selling option as extra money
4) raid 24/7 to get more money and earn more than U lose
5) on ltq, buy two at the start, upgrade them both, then couple of days before the end collect money for one getting as high upgrade as U can get, sell other ltq building for extra money and buy it back during wartime

if U raid the same amount than U get attacked for, then Ur still at win, cause collecting buildings give U more money

[UncleLeo]

How informative and helpful! Why is this forum filled with trolls nowadays? I feel this is Gree's fault by lacking in customer service somehow.

I'm not a troll. That's literally what i did when vaults were 10M and i needed to buy 2 anniversary buildings.

[rex8499]

Thanks everyone. There's a few things I've done myself and a few new ideas too (like finishing off map leaders, which I have all 100% prepped already).

I just joined a new top 200 faction so hopefully my stats increase fast here shortly. Just with the new bonuses I won more when being attacked today.

[Sumiala]

Originally Posted by Gree Support Ticket
Recent changes have made it so that the amount of times you may lose to an attack before being "too beat up" increase by approximately 4 attacks with each level:

Level 1 - You may lose 3 times in 2 hours

Level 250 - You may lose 62 times in 2 hours

If you are able to successfully defend against attacks you may be attacked infinitely. Revenge attacks and Raids are not included in these calculations.

I fail to understand how these maths work.
I am level 161 and get a max attack of 12 (by one person).

Selling buildings is a good one, but you only get 50% of the purchase price I believe, not the upgraded price.
My tip, make sure you have all boost buildings (four for cash and composite for gold) and upgrade these all to level 10.

[SGT Rud]

You can only be attacked a maximum of 12 times, then you can not be attacked for 2-hours (cooldown period) but you can still be raided.

The most you can lose in a single PvP attack is 300,000 (3.6mil with 12 attacks / 43.2mil per day depending on your overvault). I doubt that you will be attacked every 2-hours in a 24 hour period. I'm sure it may have happened to someone, but it has to be a rarity.

I do believe this is per attacker. ie, I can lose 3.6mil per person attacking me. You can get attacked for 3.6 mil by multiple people in that 2 hour period, but, I do believe it is an 8 hour period. We have several in my faction with the same rivals listings as we are of similiar level. We will share OV targets all the time.

Tip 1 - Have a larger income than what people are taking from you. This is not including collecting your base. You were already going to receive that income. You should be raiding your money back. You can pull far more out of hit of stamina on a raid than the 300K for an attack.

Tip 2 - Since you can generally raid a decent person with a defense well above your attack (ie 4mil atk raiding a 6mil def), but with attacking a rival, you typically need a rival with a lower defense than your attack to win, so even unvaulted money in your bank is more protected than sitting on your base.

Tip 3 - UncleLeo was correct. Trees and other decorations can be used to get some quick cash, but isnt a sufficient amount to bulk up for a massive LE upgrade, but will add a bit to your stash. Defensive buildings can also be used for this purpose, and the Nano building is a decent one to used as well. Try to never sell something that has been upgraded as its not the money your dumping, its the time youve invested.

Tip 4 - Pre-staging works wonders. Go find yourself some permanent NPCs on the maps that pay well, and pre-stage them to the last hit, then when you are about to hit the amount you need for your upgrade, go hit the last hit on that NPC for your loot.

Tip 5 - Dont draw attention to yourself. If you get attacked or raided, DO NOT retaliate. DO NOT message their wall.

[Gen CheeBye]

I do believe this is per attacker. ie, I can lose 3.6mil per person attacking me. You can get attacked for 3.6 mil by multiple people in that 2 hour period, but, I do believe it is an 8 hour period. We have several in my faction with the same rivals listings as we are of similiar level. We will share OV targets all the time.

Tip 1 - Have a larger income than what people are taking from you. This is not including collecting your base. You were already going to receive that income. You should be raiding your money back. You can pull far more out of hit of stamina on a raid than the 300K for an attack.

Tip 2 - Since you can generally raid a decent person with a defense well above your attack (ie 4mil atk raiding a 6mil def), but with attacking a rival, you typically need a rival with a lower defense than your attack to win, so even unvaulted money in your bank is more protected than sitting on your base.

Tip 3 - UncleLeo was correct. Trees and other decorations can be used to get some quick cash, but isnt a sufficient amount to bulk up for a massive LE upgrade, but will add a bit to your stash. Defensive buildings can also be used for this purpose, and the Nano building is a decent one to used as well. Try to never sell something that has been upgraded as its not the money your dumping, its the time youve invested.

Tip 4 - Pre-staging works wonders. Go find yourself some permanent NPCs on the maps that pay well, and pre-stage them to the last hit, then when you are about to hit the amount you need for your upgrade, go hit the last hit on that NPC for your loot.

Tip 5 - Dont draw attention to yourself. If you get attacked or raided, DO NOT retaliate. DO NOT message their wall.

If you raid someone that has higher stats, be prepared for some payback. And sometimes, the payback can be a b!atch. Nothing wrong with it except you have to collect your cash on time. Some people are known to camp at your base to exact some form of revenge and it can last from days to weeks and some go to the extreme and stalk you for months.

[SGT Rud]

If you raid someone that has higher stats, be prepared for some payback. And sometimes, the payback can be a b!atch. Nothing wrong with it except you have to collect your cash on time. Some people are known to camp at your base to exact some form of revenge and it can last from days to weeks and some go to the extreme and stalk you for months.

Correct, however, most peoples defense is far higher than their attack, therefore if my attack is equal to your defense, then your attack is lower than your defense, and my defense is higher than my attack. If I can barely raid you (ie a few failed raids) your attack is more than likely too low to hit my larger defense.

lets make this as an example

me - 2mil/3mil
you -1mil/2mil
I can attack you, but you are going to have a really hard time attacking me.

lets extend this even further

me - 5mil/7mil
you -3mil/5mil
Same thing applies

lets look at even higher

me - 9mil/13mil
you -7mil/9mil

Yes, when you keep going up and up, you can raid even higher, but for those of us with players in the singles and teens...
But for those in the below 1 mil range, it is even more detrimental to watch your rivals as the atk/def stats are not that far apart.

All this said, anyone who pops up in your news feed, I would be willing to bet that a large percentage of the time, they have looked at your stats and have won, or gambled and lost, but would probably be too high for you to chance it back. If you lose on a chance, you have alerted them to being OV and opened an easy way to your base without alerting you to their presence. If someone wants to return fire to me, generally they have to attack me back as I am not careless enough to raid or attack outside what I know I can win. So when they hit me back, I know they are there when my feed pops up. I may need to hurry back to my base and collect if I think anything is there. If I lose, they can hit the raid button and come to my base without warning and look around.

[Thief]

Correct, however, most peoples defense is far higher than their attack, therefore if my attack is equal to your defense, then your attack is lower than your defense, and my defense is higher than my attack. If I can barely raid you (ie a few failed raids) your attack is more than likely too low to hit my larger defense.

Honest not sure that statement holds true anymore. Most of the rivals i've come across are pretty even and those at the top have 10-20% more attack than defense.

In addition with raiding being the most effective way of getting money back you only need 75% of your opponents defense to hit their LE buildings.

Granted everyone rivals list looks different depending on what level your in.

With that being said i completely agree with the advice on holding onto more cash.

[rex8499]

I'm good about collecting my cash on time. I have timers for the 48, 24, and 12 hour buildings to alert me when they're ready, so I rarely get raided (except for those darn Romanic Cathedrals and their strange 7 hour time).