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    Quote Originally Posted by Hildigam View Post
    Cause noone is scaling rewards for events so that you get something for 50 gems which costs 8 bucks for the 75pack. Yup, gree isnt trying to get any f2p players to fork over a ten-spot.
    That is such a minimal amount of gems though. In the larger realm of things, gree cares nothing for the non-gem spenders.
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    I honestly find this upsetting, I recently tried to join the rainbow coalition and out of all the guilds i've applied for they treated me with the most respect. For example the moment i told the dark prince's alliance recruiter I didn't spend many gems he stopped all communications. Whereas, the members of RR and RP who I spoke to respected the fact I was trying to be a conservative gem spender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry.hill52 View Post
    I honestly find this upsetting, I recently tried to join the rainbow coalition and out of all the guilds i've applied for they treated me with the most respect. For example the moment i told the dark prince's alliance recruiter I didn't spend many gems he stopped all communications. Whereas, the members of RR and RP who I spoke to respected the fact I was trying to be a conservative gem spender.
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    Who did you speak with from DPA? With that being said DPA is not a coalition such as RR. We don't have any room currently for lower gem spenders due to us being highly competitive. It's just our requirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taylor1993 View Post
    Who did you speak with from DPA? With that being said DPA is not a coalition such as RR. We don't have any room currently for lower gem spenders due to us being highly competitive. It's just our requirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taylor1993 View Post
    That is such a minimal amount of gems though. In the larger realm of things, gree cares nothing for the non-gem spenders.
    I think you overestimate your importace there buddy. During wars they get a chunk of change yes we all know that. But outside? A great number have sworn off chest cause the probabilities are so low. Bit if they can get even 10k of the 100k players to spend 8 dollars.... Then you have the money for gree in between wars. Just cause the players aren't on LINE or on forum doesn't mean they don't spend.

    Immentioned it a while ago, they care very much about the f2p people, but in a way that gets them to spend money.
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    There's also a lot of revenue from offers which is predominantly f2p players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hildigam View Post
    I think you overestimate your importace there buddy. During wars they get a chunk of change yes we all know that. But outside? A great number have sworn off chest cause the probabilities are so low. Bit if they can get even 10k of the 100k players to spend 8 dollars.... Then you have the money for gree in between wars. Just cause the players aren't on LINE or on forum doesn't mean they don't spend.

    Immentioned it a while ago, they care very much about the f2p people, but in a way that gets them to spend money.
    That's only 80k... They make twice, maybe triple that, during a three day war. I'm not overestimating my importance. No need to make an argument personal. I agree, they offer the jubilee events as an incentive but it isn't to get f2p to spend regularly. They make their bread and butter from the chest and wars. They consider it a bonus if a f2p player drops ten bucks over 3 months of playing. They don't care about them because they don't rely on them for income. Another good point is to look at the game itself. What have they updated in the main game? Do we have new levels? No. Do we have new castle expansions? No. No updates that benefit a f2p player. They release wars for the money. That's about their only curveball in development. If they cared about f2p they would update the fabric of the game. Not release pay to win events.

    I wonder though how many players actually play knd you said 100k. Sounds like a solid estimate to me. I have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry.hill52 View Post
    someone with the line name KOA
    Well he would know what is best for his guild. Like I said its not that we don't like you, it's just a matter of space. we only have 40 spots whereas The rainbow coalition has 100's. We owe it to all of our other members to fill them with people who can meet our minimum requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taylor1993 View Post
    I wonder though how many players actually play knd you said 100k. Sounds like a solid estimate to me. I have no idea.
    The reward for arena are pretty junky so i did another experiment on the arena. This week as of yesterday there were 100,280 people with 5+ points in arena. Then i got bored and decided to get some arena points

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hildigam View Post
    The reward for arena are pretty junky so i did another experiment on the arena. This week as of yesterday there were 100,280 people with 5+ points in arena. Then i got bored and decided to get some arena points
    Awesome I would say nearly another 20k that haven't participated. I'm low balling with that estimate.
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    A game where the top spots are based on point totals, despite who you actually face for those points, is not a game of "competition". You're trying to make K&D something it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taylor1993 View Post
    Who did you speak with from DPA? With that being said DPA is not a coalition such as RR. We don't have any room currently for lower gem spenders due to us being highly competitive. It's just our requirement.
    I guess the key message here is not abt being declined to join DPA, it's about declining properly with respect. From what I gather he's just pointing out that KOA stopped communicating with him once he found out that harry doesn't spend much - probably should have closed it properly by telling him why and saying things like "all the best in whichever guild u join."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eunuchorn View Post
    A game where the top spots are based on point totals, despite who you actually face for those points, is not a game of "competition". You're trying to make K&D something it isn't.
    Thats not even remotely true.

    If you battle every single battle and lose every time because your gear sucks, or you didnt have many people online, or you just can't seem to get past your misses, you likely wont be getting the 50% win bonus.

    So not only did someone out-fight you in the war, they got 1.5 points where you only got 1.

    Its simple that there is some competition and strategy involved unless you are a lottery winner/trust fund baby with more dollars than sense like your guild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oryihn View Post
    Thats not even remotely true.

    If you battle every single battle and lose every time because your gear sucks, or you didnt have many people online, or you just can't seem to get past your misses, you likely wont be getting the 50% win bonus.

    So not only did someone out-fight you in the war, they got 1.5 points where you only got 1.

    Its simple that there is some competition and strategy involved unless you are a lottery winner/trust fund baby with more dollars than sense like your guild.
    Chorn, few people read ur posts in its entirety - the true message gets lost just like in this reply to what you said. If I were you I'll stop wasting my breath on forums and spend more time on your gazillion other games
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatzme View Post
    I guess the key message here is not abt being declined to join DPA, it's about declining properly with respect. From what I gather he's just pointing out that KOA stopped communicating with him once he found out that harry doesn't spend much - probably should have closed it properly by telling him why and saying things like "all the best in whichever guild u join."
    For the record, I typically receive dozens of applications on a daily basis and respond and close out the chats in a fairly responsive fashion. Could I have missed out on responding to an applicant? Of course; but at that point I would leave it upon the applicant to follow-up should they truly wish to be in my guild.

    In any case, back to the topic at hand. The wars are more entertaining in their current state than in the proposed state of having rainbow guilds maintain the top 10.

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