The Rainbow Coalition: Preconceptions & Misconceptions

[taylor1993]

I really hope you're kidding, for your own sake. If Mark was in my guild, I'd quit and never come back.

No one has said anything about him being in our guild. You two have a strong distain for each other apparently. Why would you quit and never come back?

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Having seen both sides of the equation now, what I would say is that any hatred/disdain for RR and the coalition is probably unfair.

What I have seen is an organised community which has members moving around to make sure that smaller guilds get levelled up faster and gold pumped into these smaller guilds to get their bonuses up so that newer and lower-level members have a little more advantage when levelling.

As for the point re spending: it makes sense if the price of wars can be better controlled and that's probably for everyone's benefit. Having to spend less means a lower chance of burnout from the game and that allows more of the regulars to keep playing. Sure, competition is always a fun challenge but not if it eventually becomes a pyrrhic victory for everyone involved.

Also, in terms of pushing for top spot amongst the bigger guilds, there really aren't that many guilds which are able to or claim they will be able to in the past few wars. Looking at the results, it really does look like 1 or at most 2 guilds will push that hard while everyone else is just trying to ensure their top 10 spot. An arrangement which leads to lower spending amongst the top guilds really should be for everyone's benefit if you think about it, outside of the 1 or 2 guilds which think they can get number 1.

And to be fair to RR, I don't think they drove up gem spending in wars. That is always going to be a function of how hard a challenger pushes RR in a war and the response that comes as a result.

[Sparkle_DPA]

Also, in terms of pushing for top spot amongst the bigger guilds, there really aren't that many guilds which are able to or claim they will be able to in the past few wars. Looking at the results, it really does look like 1 or at most 2 guilds will push that hard while everyone else is just trying to ensure their top 10 spot.

That is one of the many reasons why I keep saying the game wont last much longer. Almost everyone I know is already starting to look for a different game to move over to later on, aka DR or BD. Trying my best not to sound negative, but its just how everything is going right now, and the funny part about it is gree isnt even aware, hence the 0 changes to the game. They are clueless about everything. There is such an easy solution to fix all the current problems but of course, they cant think of it...

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That is one of the many reasons why I keep saying the game wont last much longer. Almost everyone I know is already starting to look for a different game to move over to later on, aka DR or BD. Trying my best not to sound negative, but its just how everything is going right now, and the funny part about it is gree isnt even aware, hence the 0 changes to the game. They are clueless about everything. There is such an easy solution to fix all the current problems but of course, they cant think of it...

I don't think that's the correct analysis though. Just because most of the top 15 or so guilds aren't prepared to spend the amount required to beat RR's score in the past 2 wars doesn't mean the game is dying, it just means that the price to be number 1 is too high for their tastes. They could very well be happy just being top 10 at a more manageable price and, quite frankly, Eunu is right in that there's little difference between being number 2 and number 10.

Could Gree fix the game or make it better? Yes, but this is probably not the thread for that discussion.

[Sparkle_DPA]

No one is going to keep paying to stay the same rank, thats not how this game works especially with all the ego's floating around, and kd is already at that stage, beginning with un. Gree should be taking that as a warning, but hey, like i said, they probably dont know whats going on. It'll be more clear soon, just give the game 1 more month and you will see what i mean >:O.

[PedroPimples]

That is one of the many reasons why I keep saying the game wont last much longer. Almost everyone I know is already starting to look for a different game to move over to later on, aka DR or BD. Trying my best not to sound negative, but its just how everything is going right now, and the funny part about it is gree isnt even aware, hence the 0 changes to the game. They are clueless about everything. There is such an easy solution to fix all the current problems but of course, they cant think of it...

Gree have never wanted there games to last. They want people to join, spend big, then move on to the next game they release. They are fully aware of what is happening, and they are happy to see it.
It's why they have such disdain for crime city players. They wanted that game shut soon after they bought out funzio, yet the spenders are to high spending, far more than any of the new games to just close it down.

[Hildigam]

Plus this week there were over 100k players participating in the arena. Not a sign that people are quitting in droves since the last time i tested there were only 70k ish.

Think about it. 30k people that generate 1dollar for gree generates more income than 40people putting in 500usd. The war rewards are pbviously for the whales/serious cashers but there are a lot more people out there spening 5 dollars that dwarf them.

[Sparkle_DPA]

^No one cares about the f2p players, especially gree. Im talking about the highest gem spending guilds aka rr, un, dpa, cents, etc etc.

And pedro, if they really do want the game to die off quick, than they are more ridiculous than i imagined.

[PedroPimples]

Why is that?
Gree earns over $100mil profit a year, doesn't sound so ridiculous. Do you know how they earn most of there money?

They charges developers a very large fee in exchange for marketing and distribution support, along with analytical tools to help developers induce players to spend money.

If other gaming company's pay them that much to help them induce players to spend money, they must know what they are doing.

[EljayK]

No blackmail necessary, want to GM a baby rainbow guild for me?

The offer is nice, but I'm enjoying my guild. We have a good chemistry, and I want to push the limits of what we can do until we have nothing left to give.

[KOA]

To be quite frank, competition = fun. If one is trying to disband competition, then one is essentially removing fun from the game.

Let's assume that in a perfect rainbow world, the top 10 was full of rainbow guilds. I'd find it hard to believe you wouldn't eventually get bored of the game. Currently, the competition within guild wars is what makes each and every Gree game.

Without challenge, there is no purpose - KOA

[PedroPimples]

Not always true. Some people have such huge egos that they have to be number 1. Wether they have any competition or not all they want to see Is there own name in shining lights.
So if they can create a top 10 purely of RR it'd make themselves feel even more self important and warm and fuzzy inside.

[Sparkle_DPA]

mmmmm, I disagree. Competition is what makes the game fun, period. Last war was a joke and everyone knows it, and the reason? There was 0 competition. The war before it was much more exciting, and this is coming from players, not from myself, because dpa was fighting for #3(well, kinda) and un and rr were closely matched at 1/2. This next big war will be the final one that has competition. After that, it will all end, unless gree fixes their broken design.

[PedroPimples]

If they wanted competition they wouldn't be trying to eliminate it. They just want to be famous.
For what it's worth I agree that competition is what make the game fun.

[Hildigam]

^No one cares about the f2p players, especially gree. Im talking about the highest gem spending guilds aka rr, un, dpa, cents, etc etc.

And pedro, if they really do want the game to die off quick, than they are more ridiculous than i imagined.

Cause noone is scaling rewards for events so that you get something for 50 gems which costs 8 bucks for the 75pack. Yup, gree isnt trying to get any f2p players to fork over a ten-spot.