The Rainbow Coalition: Preconceptions & Misconceptions

[C04dy]

Albert, did rr start the 1gm farm? I believe we were in third.. Wonder how it was possible for untouchables and dpa having an insane start. Once we found out what was going on.. Do you think it would be fair for us to just not do the same? Hell no!
We do what it takes to win, if that means gree can't fix the 1armour gm farm everyone in top 5 if not 10 is going to do it.
It comes down to gems, if we had to face epics all day we would still win. Gree makes more
Money when we can spend gems quicker why would they fix it.
Don't blame us blame gree.

[The Pale Rider]

Albert, did rr start the 1gm farm? I believe we were in third.. Wonder how it was possible for untouchables and dpa having an insane start. Once we found out what was going on.. Do you think it would be fair for us to just not do the same? Hell no!
We do what it takes to win, if that means gree can't fix the 1armour gm farm everyone in top 5 if not 10 is going to do it.
It comes down to gems, if we had to face epics all day we would still win. Gree makes more
Money when we can spend gems quicker why would they fix it.
Don't blame us blame gree.

The flaw in RR's positioning of its scheme as players versus GREE is that the prizes are only useful against other players. It's self-serving to present the scheme as somehow opposing GREEs model (by allowing RR to win prizes at lower cost) for the benefit of anyone other than RR. The argument that RR rotates people in for prizes is also pretty weak. IF ALL PLAYERS WITH TOP ARMOR ARE WORKING TOGETHER THERE IS NO GAME.

Friendly competition and made up races to level guilds or armor is not the game. What has happened is the game has devolved into strictly a competition to attract and retain gem spenders. That's a lot of effort (and drama) for the guild organizers, but not all that much fun. Reading the Line chats about this stuff is boring as all get out.

Compare how much fun the single GM farming, coalition building, rotating spenders model is to the first GW before all that was in place. Which did you enjoy more?

[C04dy]

You realize rotating in other coalition members is for their gain not rr's,
That's just how strong rr is. They can rotate 3 non spenders in every war and still win.
I'm not gonna bother even checking back here, it's rediculous haha.

Can't beat em, Join em.

[MoD DeathShadow]

So everyone who has created a guild and built it up over the past months should just disband their guild if they ever hope to crack top ten? RR plans on and really alreaxy has monopolized the top spots so it just makes everyone elses work put in for months pointless. Other guilds would love to top ten on their own without spending $500 bucks. But thats not possible now because of RR.
I started a guild the day they were released and have had alot of fun building it up. Even through the spyers and hijackers. We have put togeter a fun community in MoD. And now RR is basically saying if me or my guild members ever want to win a war epic we need to disband and give up on the hard work we put in here, and join them. Thats not right. We should have a fair shake at it too. But thats life i suppose. What RR says to every other guild master out there who has also put in months of hard work, just disband your guikd and community if u want go win a war epic too. Thats ridiculous

[The Pale Rider]

So everyone who has created a guild and built it up over the past months should just disband their guild if they ever hope to crack top ten? RR plans on and really alreaxy has monopolized the top spots so it just makes everyone elses work put in for months pointless. Other guilds would love to top ten on their own without spending $500 bucks. But thats not possible now because of RR.
I started a guild the day they were released and have had alot of fun building it up. Even through the spyers and hijackers. We have put togeter a fun community in MoD. And now RR is basically saying if me or my guild members ever want to win a war epic we need to disband and give up on the hard work we put in here, and join them. Thats not right. We should have a fair shake at it too. But thats life i suppose. What RR says to every other guild master out there who has also put in months of hard work, just disband your guikd and community if u want go win a war epic too. Thats ridiculous

Well not quite disbanding. They are saying particpate in the coalition and ask to have one or two players come over to their guild to get an epic in any given war.

But it certainly effects the team building a lot to have players guild jumping to RR for armor this way. They likely don't come back and other members want to go. It's disruptive.

[C04dy]

Omg I came back!
So basically what I'm understanding, is rr ruined the game, made it
To expensive?
Because rr wants #1 and second place pushes them to spend more to win, oh yah that's Rainbow rooms fault .
I wonder why this game is not greeds top income?
I'm thinking it's because there's only been two-three teams who push during a whole war.
It's ok that some guilds only want top ten, is it really rr's fault for being overpowered ?
The 1armour gm farm was brought to grees attentions by Eunu. Why? Because it's ruining the game/ no skill needed.
RR is all about competition. It's just most who want to compete watch the leaderboard trying to avoid matching , because they will loose.

[MoD DeathShadow]

Omg I came back!
So basically what I'm understanding, is rr ruined the game, made it
To expensive?
Because rr wants #1 and second place pushes them to spend more to win, oh yah that's Rainbow rooms fault .
I wonder why this game is not greeds top income?
I'm thinking it's because there's only been two-three teams who push during a whole war.
It's ok that some guilds only want top ten, is it really rr's fault for being overpowered ?
The 1armour gm farm was brought to grees attentions by Eunu. Why? Because it's ruining the game/ no skill needed.
RR is all about competition. It's just most who want to compete watch the leaderboard trying to avoid matching , because they will loose.

Its not second place pushing them to spend more cuz they are also secod place. They r most if not all of the top ten. So they spend what it takes to take all the top ten spots and the rezt of us fight for crappy legendary armor which is worse than current epic boss armor

[michwlvrins]

Your excited that your GM is one of the laziest in the game? He leads by example right? No, wait. Thats not him/her, whatever "it" is. "It" barely scores past 20-30k while the constant revolving door of members keep winning "it" the prize. Why? Why wouldn't you just have your own guild devoid of "it"? Heck, I can give you a level 50+ guild with 7% bonuses across the board. RR's GM leads by example at least. EunuchoRRn might not be the highest scorer, but he's always in the top of the boards. Never, ever, near half-way or the bottom. As far as hating him, chances are you don't know him. All the things you hear are not anywhere near true. But you go ahead and sit there in your guild with a very confused, worthless, lazy GM leading you. We will push you out of the top 10 because you aren't worthy. Others will make better use of the epic prize.

[II King Mark II]

If I remember correctly, there were only 2 Rainbow guilds in top 10. Rainbow Room & Rug. Feel free to correct me if in wrong.

As for the post, if u analyze it clearly, Eunutroll has a point, BUT, it's self serving. As far as I can tell, he's changing his approach in the game because the last couple of major wars have been very costly for them, and that's just for a mere epic+ with 200 or so stats difference. Well, compare it to more than $500 you spend in a major war, exclude the chests and all, then yeah it's a money drain. Basically, it's using other guilds for their own quest of getting to top.

As to what other observers said, not everyone hates RR, but in the same token, not everyone likes them. Truth is, people hating on some of them isn't for no reason. It's not even their own conspiracies that it's because they're top so and so that people hate on them. It's because of being too arrogant and egoistic which some of them fail to see. Guess that's what happens when one is so full of himself. Fails to see things outside their egos.

As for the next war, well good luck with RR for possibly spending more than $1,000 each player who could afford to retain top 1, which this time I strongly doubt. Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year is coming and there are better things for lots of people to spend their money to. Bottom line, he needs new recruits to keep his pride and ego being top intact, because if he loses, we'd be seeing people jumping ships out from RR.

Just my 2 cents and again, good luck outspending at least one guild who's got more gems reserved than you guys ^^ It's going to be another money drain for RR players and I'd think twice before I spend in RR for this war as I sense a different outcome coming next major war. This time, not at all in favor of Rainbow. I'm predicting an end of another era =)

I'd say, let all other guilds have fun, spend their own gems, choose the leaders they like and sorry, I'd rather recommend the other guilds in top 10 which aren't part of Rainbow Coalition.

Cheers!
KM

[Leo.]

Great reasoning in this posts, wouldn't be surprised if Gree changed the GW fill-up bar from 10 gems to 40 because of this collusion

[busteroaf]

So everyone who has created a guild and built it up over the past months should just disband their guild if they ever hope to crack top ten? RR plans on and really alreaxy has monopolized the top spots so it just makes everyone elses work put in for months pointless. Other guilds would love to top ten on their own without spending $500 bucks. But thats not possible now because of RR.
I started a guild the day they were released and have had alot of fun building it up. Even through the spyers and hijackers. We have put togeter a fun community in MoD. And now RR is basically saying if me or my guild members ever want to win a war epic we need to disband and give up on the hard work we put in here, and join them. Thats not right. We should have a fair shake at it too. But thats life i suppose. What RR says to every other guild master out there who has also put in months of hard work, just disband your guikd and community if u want go win a war epic too. Thats ridiculous

So, the fact that RR is #1 is why you spend more? Did no one notice in the last war with people boycotting, people spent less? Did RR push the other top 10 people to spend more? No. RR will be #1 regardless, its the people that are fighting for 2-10 that even make them spend in the first place.

[busteroaf]

If I remember correctly, there were only 2 Rainbow guilds in top 10. Rainbow Room & Rug. Feel free to correct me if in wrong.

As for the post, if u analyze it clearly, Eunutroll has a point, BUT, it's self serving. As far as I can tell, he's changing his approach in the game because the last couple of major wars have been very costly for them, and that's just for a mere epic+ with 200 or so stats difference. Well, compare it to more than $500 you spend in a major war, exclude the chests and all, then yeah it's a money drain. Basically, it's using other guilds for their own quest of getting to top.

As to what other observers said, not everyone hates RR, but in the same token, not everyone likes them. Truth is, people hating on some of them isn't for no reason. It's not even their own conspiracies that it's because they're top so and so that people hate on them. It's because of being too arrogant and egoistic which some of them fail to see. Guess that's what happens when one is so full of himself. Fails to see things outside their egos.

As for the next war, well good luck with RR for possibly spending more than $1,000 each player who could afford to retain top 1, which this time I strongly doubt. Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year is coming and there are better things for lots of people to spend their money to. Bottom line, he needs new recruits to keep his pride and ego being top intact, because if he loses, we'd be seeing people jumping ships out from RR.

Just my 2 cents and again, good luck outspending at least one guild who's got more gems reserved than you guys ^^ It's going to be another money drain for RR players and I'd think twice before I spend in RR for this war as I sense a different outcome coming next major war. This time, not at all in favor of Rainbow. I'm predicting an end of another era =)

I'd say, let all other guilds have fun, spend their own gems, choose the leaders they like and sorry, I'd rather recommend the other guilds in top 10 which aren't part of Rainbow Coalition.

Cheers!
KM

Didn't you claim your guild was going to dethrone RR last time? I'm predicting you're going to fail just like always. Go back into hiding.

[Eunuchorn]

Top 10 will require money. End of story. Money players will, over time, leave their guilds of half non-spenders & look for paying guilds. I'm creating a community of people working together rather than having cut throat tactics between paying guilds.

[The Pale Rider]

Don't misundertand what I wrote please. I think RR has done a remarkable job to establish itself at the top and stay there. I have nothing to say about that at all. Eun has been proven to be the best at winning within the parameters of the game from start to finish.

My point was simply that I see a lot of disingenuous marketing going on about RR is good for everyone, good for the game and somehow hurting GREE. It's not.

[Eunuchorn]

That's my point though PR, the disingenuous marketing is only helping Gree. In the other Gree games it is worth paying for #2, #3, & #4-10. In K&D there's almost no difference between 2-10; this makes #1 the only truly realistic goal for "serious" players.
That is Greed fault & they're slowly working to fix it, like we saw in BF+ reward. Right now people are playing right into Grees hands paying exorbitant amounts of money for nothing. Trying to overtake us as a single guild will only lose 1-2 members at a time, struggling to maintain a huge gem requirement just to beat us. We are offering an organized system of tiers based on a players personal gem budget.