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    Verbose Veteran echus14's Avatar
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    I'm not a heavy or even moderate gem spender, but here are 2 observations:

    (1) I agree with Nacon and others that the 100 Bosses are definitely weighted towards LLPs (as is in part the GLTQ).

    (2) This has led to a proliferation of LLPs (or what players like to call 'minis'). Now, the interesting part is that each of these minis will represent a unique account even though it may in reality be owned by the same HLP (indeed, one player may even have 3 or 4 accounts).

    So, besides helping LLPs level up and improve their stats and cream off a few gems from the unwary, GREE also inflates their player base. Suddenly this game has 1.5x, 2x (?) the number of players based on unique accounts. Great for marketing, right? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guido69 View Post
    Hi, I have decided to not go for the level 100 boss in the current event.

    Before some of you draft a nasty response to this post and thread please keep reading.

    I chose to not go for it because the amount of gems (money) and especially the amount of time required to finish it is absolutely absurd for a high level player. I heard from other high level players that boss 80 requires about 70-80 gold hits and about 200 gems for health refills. I am not against challenging events that cost money and time to complete but this time Gree has gone overboard for me. I currently have enough gems to finish it but the time required to complete this event is not worth it for me. I am not willing to donate every single minute of the day (and necessarily the night) to Gree trying to finish an event in a video game.

    If that is the way Gree is going with KA events, I will follow what others have said before me. Free play is not an option for me, I would rather quit. If this game becomes ( and it rapidly does) a burden for me, then I will gladly delete it.

    Please know that I am not telling anyone what to do, rather voicing my own decision. If anyone wants to go for this unit, and it is a great unit stats-wise, please do. Everyone has to make their own choice. I have participated and finished every single KA event for the last many months but this time Gree went way overboard in my eyes.

    Nothing for me is worth spending that much time on a game.

    The actual reason for starting this thread however is that I would like to invite every moderate to high gem spender to post in this thread if they also choose to NOT go for this unit. Please refrain from posting hostile and accusing posts. I would like to keep this thread on track so that Gree finds the opinion of players who spend a considerable amount of money on this game in one place. You gotta make it easy for them

    I know that I annoyed and maybe even angered some players here on the forum before. But please hold no grudge. Sometime it is just fun to stir the pot a little bit. But this thread is meant to be serious and please keep it that way.

    I am looking forward to read your responses.

    Guido (FUN member since the start of the guild wars)
    I suport you !
    To much time and to much cost,this is absurd lately with amount of ltqs and they are harder and harder to complete or at least to try to complete them..
    Last edited by DragCro; 10-17-2013 at 05:59 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastlin View Post
    You mean banned member of this Forum, not from a Guild. TBW is always and forever a part of MoC!
    Absolutely Rastlin! 'Banned member From this forum'. I clearly have guild on the mind.
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    The idea that this is good for the game and a way to level the playing field is a not accurate. A low level player will not close the gap by completing this one event. Sure they will get a nice jump in stats, but to close the gap you'd need to complete many of these style of events. With the xp gained you'll quickly be in the same situation as the higher level players and not be able to complete the event and there will still be a gap in stats.

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    wow i'm embarrassed to say; however i will anyway:
    How is gree to find the right balance without trying events from super hard to moderately easy? (would never do too easy they know that wont generate $)
    id be seriously dissapointed if there wasn't a gree white board team looking over $ earned per event trying to find the best way to make $. because as we all should know by now; this game costs something to host & develop, and other than things like red cross & the peace corp any viable business has to make $
    wow ok there we go, i said it

    oh and for the record; im a gem user who made sure to get Sh@dow just cause i thought it was cool but otherwise ppffftt not going for 100 kills unless they come out with a warrior called Rocco (uh, please dont do that im not able to control myself)
    Last edited by Rocco69; 10-17-2013 at 08:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocco69 View Post
    wow i'm embarrassed to say; however i will anyway:
    How is gree to find the right balance without trying events from super hard to moderately easy? (would never do too easy they know that wont generate $)
    id be seriously dissapointed if there wasn't a gree white board team looking over $ earned per event trying to find the best way to make $. because as we all should know by now; this game costs something to host & develop, and other than things like red cross & the peace corp any viable business has to make $
    wow ok there we go, i said it

    oh and for the record; im a gem user whho made sure to get Sh@dow just cause i thought it was cool but otherwise ppffftt not going for 100 kills unless they come out with a warrior called Rocco (uh, please dont do that im not able to control myself)
    The concept for better gameplay is not hard and will still generate revenue for Gree... Increase value of gold units. The gold units will die off in battles while the gemmed rewards will not. In addition to this the highest guilds, if they continue rewards like they have been, will still get prizes for boosts which still put teams paying money ahead of the curve. The platform is still the same so the effort put in does not need to be elaborate on Gree's part and they are not redesigning the wheel. Easy for them and better for us! Better competition equals better gameplay experience. By no means do any sane person think that these guys would be running a charity. I just think lower spenders or nonspenders would be more enticed to do so if the competition is close. People like to be rewarded for the time they put into something and it still should be about growing your kingdom. Let's get back to the basics.
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    Wonder if it would be beneficial to put a cap for unit bonus atk/def.
    Hi guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voxker View Post
    Wonder if it would be beneficial to put a cap for unit bonus atk/def.
    Sounds like a great plan let's make it 10%... Ready to have your stats go down after you already paid for them? No.... not fair.... don't like that? Ok, then let's make it 200% (as most people don't have 200% yet), when you get to 200% then what? Game over? Do you quit? You surely will not pay for units that don't help, correct? Everyone at level 200 all with the same stats, sounds fun... Guild Wars, is there a point?.................... Yes I think it might be beneficial to put a cap on bonuses....
    Last edited by Rastlin; 10-17-2013 at 11:36 PM.

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    Not sure where I fit in as far as whether I had been a light/moderate/heavy gem spender in the past, but for the last month I have been a free player. The last of my bonus gems will be spent in the next war, and will never be replaced. The only question remaining is when I stop playing KA altogether.

    This event was not the breaking point for me; that already happened. But I support and stand with everyone who has had enough of this and will no longer feed the Gree. The entertainment value of a dollar spent here has collapsed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by echus14 View Post
    I'm not a heavy or even moderate gem spender, but here are 2 observations:

    (1) I agree with Nacon and others that the 100 Bosses are definitely weighted towards LLPs (as is in part the GLTQ).

    (2) This has led to a proliferation of LLPs (or what players like to call 'minis'). Now, the interesting part is that each of these minis will represent a unique account even though it may in reality be owned by the same HLP (indeed, one player may even have 3 or 4 accounts).

    So, besides helping LLPs level up and improve their stats and cream off a few gems from the unwary, GREE also inflates their player base. Suddenly this game has 1.5x, 2x (?) the number of players based on unique accounts. Great for marketing, right? LOL
    And don't forget that suddenly the app has thousands of downloads in the AppStore.
    In my opinion, Gree is trying to sell old Funzio games (Crime City, Modern War and this KA) and make profit with the new ones: Dragon Realms, Knights&Dragons and War of Nations.
    But to get a good price they need to increase their value by rating higher in iTunes Store.
    Just another conspiracy theory of mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TK275 View Post
    The idea that this is good for the game and a way to level the playing field is a not accurate. A low level player will not close the gap by completing this one event. Sure they will get a nice jump in stats, but to close the gap you'd need to complete many of these style of events. With the xp gained you'll quickly be in the same situation as the higher level players and not be able to complete the event and there will still be a gap in stats.
    I gained 4 levels in this event...from 35 to 39. I also gained 500k in defense...you are right it would take many events like this...so bring em on!!!

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