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    How can you change something like this retroactively??
    If you announced the changes in advance I would have a bit more understanding, but doing it like this is a slap in the face! I suspect the consequences will be dire...

    Thank you and good bye from me!

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    Your not gonna have anything to moderate in about a month..I don't think y'all realize how many people's gonna quit..I've spent 10k since battles (at least) and others spend more...people are not just gonna spend more to make up for the lack of care..hopefully they quit like I will when my 50k is gone😂😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipstik View Post
    Heavy moderation? You mean no more posting porn in the forum? frownz
    no clopper stuff from your "private stable"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney26 View Post
    Your not gonna have anything to moderate in about a month..I don't think y'all realize how many people's gonna quit..I've spent 10k since battles (at least) and others spend more...people are not just gonna spend more to make up for the lack of care..hopefully they quit like I will when my 50k is gone����
    Hey Rodney, I'm going to suck up to you now LOL
    Want to join the poptarts and play free? We have defense bonuses! Its very liberating


    Edit: Wow! There's magic going on in this thread! Poof! There one second, gone the next! I believe! This is a magical world!
    Last edited by Peppers; 10-09-2013 at 12:48 PM.

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    Ooh, post removed. Shocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assault and Flattery View Post
    Hey guys, we expected a lot of people to be angry about this. It was either make the changes or remove the program entirely, so we went with this. Keep in mind that it's a courtesy program we don't have to run at all, and we give out free stuff. Anyone that enrolled agreed to us making changes at any time.
    I love it, is like a crack dealer enticing the crack addicts.

    I think you're going all out to ruin the game, how about a gold amnesty for some battles, make things interesting rather than scamming Fight Club to buy more crack... I mean gold :-P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Girlfriend View Post
    So I guess I should feel like the old union guys getting out with a full pension while the new guys try to retire on a 3% 401k match? Lol.
    Good stuff!

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    I bet the same person who decided to change the prize tiers with 2 minutes remaining is also the same person who decided to make the bonus program changes apply retroactively to already-made purchases.

    A&F, you might want to talk to your regulatory compliance people before listening to these ideas going forward.

    Its not the change in the programs that is the issue for me. Its making changes DURING events and DURING existing bonus months that is screwing people into spending money they otherwise wouldn't have spent.

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    I don't disagree with the changes overall I suppose however doing it after many players have bought gold for the month and making it retroactive I think is a bad move. Could have easily made it effective for November and ppl would know what they were buying rather then feeling ripped off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxz View Post
    The difference, here, is they are deflating the currency (gold) while continuing to inflate the goods/services (stats). So, not only is there less currency in circulation, there's less incentive to use buying power.

    In effect, this change is great for free players, very good for FC, ok for SAS, and awful for everyone in between.

    My guess is Gree will realize less revenue as FC and SAS will have increasingly less competition.

    Yes, I agree with you, I never said I thought it was a good idea. Disinflating or deflating the value of gold is good for players who already have a lot of gold. Stat inflation (or more seriously, modifier inflation) is a separate but related issue, but I feel like I would reserve judgment in that regard until we see the prizes for the next few events. I agree with for instance, increasing the modifiers on the war prizes, but only because of the massive modifiers GREE was handing out for relatively cheaply recently (e.g. Victor Klaus boss, map boss LTQ). The 30% car attack/defense modifier was also a terrible idea, for what it's worth. Most of the players who are going to get that ridiculously huge modifier (equivalent to multiple wars' worth of prizes) will do so by either abusing the matching system, or beating other players also hoping to abuse the matching system, or by already being the game's top spenders anyway-- e.g. FC and SAS.

    If they continue to hand out massive modifiers in every other event, I will agree that this is a terrible idea. I also agree with you in that they are discouraging competition between FC/SAS and the rest of the CC population, which is probably not the best idea for GREE either. I don't think that GREE is hoping reliable spenders (with large stats) quit so that new spenders can take their place. I could never make such a judgment without seeing GREE's actual spending data, but I would fathom a guess that players who haven't spent much in a mobile phone game before aren't going to be the ones to start spending $5k-$10k per month to catch FC/SAS.

    I'm sort of ranting without much cohesion or direction here, but to put it simply, GREE already has quite a mess with stats and modifier inflation, and there is literally no good solution to fixing it. As I said, I'd also be very upset at the changes if I was still in the gold bonus program, but I am pretty sure all the alternatives GREE has to fix stat inflation will hurt some piece of GREE's demographic. I am just hoping that the aforementioned changes are indeed being made for the long-term viability of the game, since most of GREE's other recent moves have seemed like "short-selling" to me.
    Last edited by BigMoney; 10-09-2013 at 12:59 PM.

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    Peppers, their plan was to lock people in. They could have sent that mass message any time they wanted. They chose their place and time.

    This makes it easy for me to make my final decision with this game.

    *Silent Assassins are Recruiting*
    SAS1: 500k+T1+Full Streaks+Undefeated Last War
    SASII: 275k+T3&4+Full Streaks+Undefeated Last War
    SASIII: 125K+T10+Wins
    SAS4: T50

    We have a spot for almost every type of player out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentAssassin View Post
    Peppers, their plan was to lock people in. They could have sent that mass message any time they wanted. They chose their place and time.

    This makes it easy for me to make my final decision with this game.
    Mine was made during the last war, with 2 minutes remaining. Extending the tiers pissed me off till no end.

    I'm playing free in my crappy little syndicate with the hubby and one friend until stat inflation passes us by and our stats suck. With the way Gree is going, that should take about a month.

    I'll work on decorating my hood and growing my economy and I'll pretend I'm playing simcity

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMoney View Post
    Disinflating or deflating the value of gold is good for players who already have a lot of gold.
    Absolutely. Unfortunately that only applies to September. They probably could have had a healthy quarter and gotten nice Holiday bonuses by announcing this now but delaying implementation until Nov/Dec. They should have hired me as a consultant when they had the chance!
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    PS4 is coming soon.....

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    I jus like to tap on me phone. makes Ug happy! Derrrr!

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