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    Articulate Author Robespierre's Avatar
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    It's official--game unplayable without forum

    -EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT!-

    --MODERN WAR UNPLAYABLE WITHOUT FORUM--


    After two and a half years of playing this game, it had become obvious that without this forum, the game would have died a long time ago. Without reports of the glitches, hacks, and service issues, the players would have simply deleted the game and walked away.

    But more...in order for the players to decide whether to plunk down their resources, the content creators of walkthroughs and other data collections have given the players that vital piece of information on whether to forge forward, or call it a day. Without this information on events, it is very doubtful that players would continue to invest their resources on an uncertain outcome.

    To the walkthrough creators: I SALUTE YOU.


    Your contributions to the gaming community are incredible, and have kept the lights on for this operation.

    What I find more amazing are the missed opportunities that could have been capitalized on by the developers: fore example, the 3rd party software. If this speaks to anything it is that the players absolutely hate not knowing what is going on. Nearly all of the third party software deals with giving players more information to be efficient with their resource spending (Toolkit/docbot/outside chat apps).

    The bottom line: we scream for more information, and the profitability of the game goes out the door without it. Most honest transactions require some information about the risk and reward, and without it, a rational person will not throw their resources down a hole (notice I said rational person...no accounting for the insanity of top-10 pissing contests [which are dying out btw...]).

    Bottom line: the developers owe the content creators a debt of gratitude for continued playability and the vital information that is so cleverly concealed with checklists, tiered events, and downright deceptive splash screens and completion benchmarks. Without the content creators clearing the smokescreen in this forum, frustration with the design would have killed the game months, if not years ago. The forum controls the game, and it is about time that this gets recognized. Long live the power of the forum.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Orange View Post
    I feel sorry for those who post and complain, seriously guys you are wasting your time.
    Just sit back and watch Rome burn.

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    I completely agree bud, all hail the walkthrough creators!!

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    Even people who don't directly contribute to the forum can still come here and get some much needed help. Who would pay to win events if there is no incentive other than random splashscreens?

    This game is on life support, thank the forum for paying the bills!
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    Best. Thread. Ever.

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    A special shout to danimal!!!!!
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    Well documented and most accurate description.

    If only the people from Gree Japan headquarters understood English and read the forum, they would've gotten rid of the current MW management and content development team.

    Such a loyal customer base and they don't know how to treat them properly and with respect! Take us for granted at your own peril!

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    Robespierre, I salute you for putting it so clear and concise!! And I agree for 200% !!
    The commitment and efforts of people like Danimal, LarryJackson and many more are indeed the lifeline for MW. I would rather like to pay them than GREE
    It's unbelievable GREE doesn't see this and act. Maybe a boycott by Danimal and LarryJackson et all would be much more effective than any so-called boycot before and make GREE realize how important it is to give full, accurate and timely info about all the events !!

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    To play devil's advocate, not saying I agree with any of it as I don't, but - why should gree post the information when they have a team of willing serfs, nay, willing slaves, eager to pay for the privilege of keeping the forums up to date with information?
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    They don't need to waste time and money putting out information on the forums when players will not only do it for free, they will pay gold and effort in the first place, through trial and error, to complete the events to gain the information and post it.
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    All Gree has to do is employ one person to "mod" the forums and boot the occassional member who hasn't read the 2.3pt fine print of the TOS.
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    Therein lies the great irony of the forums.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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    Prominent Poet Rolinz's Avatar
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    This posting makes a great point about the deficiencies.

    Special thanks to Danimal and LarryJackson and others who continuously contribute to give us much needed information that GREEdy should have been giving to its players in the first place.

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    Mad respect for all the walk-through creators, you are absolutely right. I would not be playing right now if it wasn't for all the intel published on this forum.
    You all deserve every cent and more of what these slackers at gree are getting paid.

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    Thanks to all the walkthroughs and info posted here, I use a lot less gold, that's for sure. So I can't thank all you info posters enough, thank you again, sorry GREE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robespierre View Post
    -EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT!-

    --MODERN WAR UNPLAYABLE WITHOUT FORUM--


    After two and a half years of playing this game, it had become obvious that without this forum, the game would have died a long time ago. Without reports of the glitches, hacks, and service issues, the players would have simply deleted the game and walked away.

    But more...in order for the players to decide whether to plunk down their resources, the content creators of walkthroughs and other data collections have given the players that vital piece of information on whether to forge forward, or call it a day. Without this information on events, it is very doubtful that players would continue to invest their resources on an uncertain outcome.

    To the walkthrough creators: I SALUTE YOU.


    Your contributions to the gaming community are incredible, and have kept the lights on for this operation.

    What I find more amazing are the missed opportunities that could have been capitalized on by the developers: fore example, the 3rd party software. If this speaks to anything it is that the players absolutely hate not knowing what is going on. Nearly all of the third party software deals with giving players more information to be efficient with their resource spending (Toolkit/docbot/outside chat apps).

    The bottom line: we scream for more information, and the profitability of the game goes out the door without it. Most honest transactions require some information about the risk and reward, and without it, a rational person will not throw their resources down a hole (notice I said rational person...no accounting for the insanity of top-10 pissing contests [which are dying out btw...]).

    Bottom line: the developers owe the content creators a debt of gratitude for continued playability and the vital information that is so cleverly concealed with checklists, tiered events, and downright deceptive splash screens and completion benchmarks. Without the content creators clearing the smokescreen in this forum, frustration with the design would have killed the game months, if not years ago. The forum controls the game, and it is about time that this gets recognized. Long live the power of the forum.
    Greetings, Robespierre:

    Thank you for sharing an intelligent, thoughtful, and humorous post.
    I only offer one contradiction to your well versed thoughts.
    According to the Gree officials monitoring and controling this forum, fewer than 5% of MW tappers use the site.
    I'll be generous and bump the 5% of all MW tappers to 20% of the game's tappers.
    Its those 20%, however, that spend the majority of money for in-game purchases, investing enormous amounts of their time playing, tapping, and planning this "game".
    In my humble opinion, this is indicative of the "80/20 rule" (or the "5-95 rule" LOL), meaning, the small majority of tappers (compared to the larger group of players) finds this site useful.
    Why?
    They are simply more interested and invested than the larger group of "players".
    Another way to view it is, the forum users for the most part are "professional tappers", along with a few observers and trolls to spice things up a bit.
    The "amateur players" just don't care about this pixel, that pixel or that event.
    They see this as a game, a respite for a few minutes every now and then.
    Its like our little group of characters.
    We don't DEW NUTTIN, and find the chaos, angst, and chatter here much more amusing than the game.
    We've all learned many "moons" ago that none of this matters.
    We don't care who hits our pixels, and we don't DEW NO events. LOL
    What we DEW DEW, is plenty of NUTTIN. LMFAO
    Anyway, thanks for sharing.
    On a personal note, oddly enough, we agree far more often than not.
    Have yourself a splendid summer week, sir.
    Last edited by DEWIN NUTTIN; 07-14-2014 at 08:03 AM.
    It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

    The SPENDING LAMP is ALWAYS lit in ALL GREE GAMES.
    SPEND it, if you got any left.

    Jesse “The Body” Ventura said, “Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat!”

    In the words of Bobby Heenan: "The money's the same, whether you earn it or scam it.
    "

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    Prominent Poet DEWIN NUTTIN's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danger Mouse View Post
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    They don't need to waste time and money putting out information on the forums when players will not only do it for free, they will pay gold and effort in the first place, through trial and error, to complete the events to gain the information and post it.
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    All Gree has to do is employ one person to "mod" the forums and boot the occassional member who hasn't read the 2.3pt fine print of the TOS.
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    Therein lies the great irony of the forums.
    On the other hand, your point oif view is also on point.
    I've long ago stopped wondering why the "true believers" press on, harder each month.
    There are some things that get people agitated and angered very, very quickly.
    I will stop now, as I'm getting too close to the flames.
    It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

    The SPENDING LAMP is ALWAYS lit in ALL GREE GAMES.
    SPEND it, if you got any left.

    Jesse “The Body” Ventura said, “Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat!”

    In the words of Bobby Heenan: "The money's the same, whether you earn it or scam it.
    "

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    Talking 5%

    It might only be 5% of players check here in forum but than that 5% takes it the faction and a friend in that faction gives it to a friend in another faction and spreads very fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napgar View Post
    Robespierre, I salute you for putting it so clear and concise!! And I agree for 200% !!
    The commitment and efforts of people like Danimal, LarryJackson and many more are indeed the lifeline for MW. I would rather like to pay them than GREE
    It's unbelievable GREE doesn't see this and act. Maybe a boycott by Danimal and LarryJackson et all would be much more effective than any so-called boycot before and make GREE realize how important it is to give full, accurate and timely info about all the events !!
    I appreciate the sentiment.

    And I would gladly accept your money haha. Unfortunately, it is against TOS for me to solicit donations via PayPal on the forums. If you would really like to show your appreciation, access my Googledocs LTQ sheets though the links I provide - instruction within

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    A walkthrough boycott, I'm afraid, would be an exercise in futility. In the end, it would only hurt the players. It would go the way of the infamous gold boycotts; only a small group would be invested in seeing it through, others would rise up to do the walkthroughs, the events would still cause the gold to flow, and the action would not be great enough to force Gree's hand.
    Most importantly, a boycott would hurt the players. That, I am not interested in witnessing or having a hand in. We get small victories here & there. All we can do for now is continue to ask... politely. Flaming, yelling and trolling isn't going to get anyone a think.

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