Would you like to see a shame file published to the forums that names banned hackers?

[Danger Mouse]

First and foremost, this post is not a platform for your rants on hackers. If you feel the need to vent, take it elsewhere and start your own thread. This is a serious post to guage whether players would be in favour of a particular action from Gree, to try and show the Mods whether or not it has support from you, the community. If you like the idea, say why in a measured way. Similarly, if you don't like the idea be civil. Lets keep this an adult conversation.
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There is a lot of bitter and acrimonious claim and counter claim of who was banned for what in these forums.
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There are also a lot of posts from people despondant because they have used the right mechanisms to report accounts they strongly suspect of hacking, but never hear back whether any action was taken. This causes them to lose enthusiasm for the game as in a vaccuum of knowledge they just assume nothing has happened.
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It may well be that Gree are on top of the case and every report of potential hackers is read and a result is achieved, but we would never know as there is a strict policy of not discussing hacking. Wingnut conspiracy theories thrive and explode in this silence.
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It seems to me the quickest and easiest way for Gree to address these issues and demonstrate what is happening to keep this game above board and hacker free is if Gree published a shame file to the announcements section of the forum. Account X with game name Y was caught and banned for hacking. No specifics of what they did, as we don't want to give others ideas, but a simple list to show that action was taken. The thread will be locked for comments and purely be for information only.
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The shame file serves many purposes. It shows gree are active on this front, silencing critics. It shows players their reports are taken seriously and have been heard and action taken. It completely nullifies the wingnut conspiracy theories that abound of who did what and supposedly got away with it, because we would see that, well actually no, they didn't. And it shows hackers that their deeds will be made public, and no, they aren't heroes. These are my ideas for the positive. You may have great ideas for why this wouldn't work and shouldn't be initiated by Gree. If so, please tell.
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Would you be in favour of such a published shame file? Yes or no?
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And please, let's keep this an adult conversation in a civil manner. Take your spleen and vent it elsewhere if thats all you have to contribute.
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Cheers, DM.

[Ajk]

Hmmm. What good would that do if they can change their name at the click of a button?
BOOM! 50 gold, new identity. Problem solved.

[Danger Mouse]

Hmmm. What good would that do if they can change their name at the click of a button?

If they were reported under a certain game name, and that game name appears in the list as banned, a lot of good.

[Pidgeot]

I say no to this because a lot of people dont want to deal with public shaming. Even if you think its justified, its wrong. People cheat and if they are caught, they are dealt with within the system. if said hacker did so on such a large scale to where it hindered the game and rendered it unplayable then I would expect something to be said to who did it but not on such a small scale.

No one wants their face on a wall at Wal-Mart for the world to see because they stole a bag of candy.

[Danger Mouse]

I say no to this because a lot of people dont want to deal with public shaming. Even if you think its justified, its wrong. People cheat and if they are caught, they are dealt with within the system. if said hacker did so on such a large scale to where it hindered the game and rendered it unplayable then I would expect something to be said to who did it but not on such a small scale.

No one wants their face on a wall at Wal-Mart for the world to see because they stole a bag of candy.

I appreciate what you are saying, but I don't think it's the same as putting a photo on a wall. This universe we play in is anonymous. If hackers have shared personal details with others who subsequently see them named as hackers, well too bad in my books. But for the overwhelming most part they are anonymous in the real world. The only person who knows for sure who they are in the real world is the hacker themselves.
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However, for others to see a list of accounts that might have very "visible" personas in the game or the forums as banned, then I for one think thats a good thing.

[Prettypupp]

I am all for it. It will help keep people honest. And the reality is that the people who get caught don't have to worry about be shamed because gree will ban them for there actions. But it will give us more faith in gree that they are trying to keep this game as fair as possible.

[Shrinko]

I say, I don't care. Gree is the biggest hacker of all. I don't care what hackers do. Even if there are a few hundred of them, they are dissolved among thousands of players. But I do care what gree does. Gree is the problem resulting in the game being destroyed and not hackers.

[Danger Mouse]

I say, I don't care. Gree is the biggest hacker of all. I don't care what hackers do. Even if there are a few hundred of them, they are dissolved among thousands of players. But I do care what gree does. Gree is the problem resulting in the game being destroyed and not hackers.

Please don't clutter this post with off topic posts. You don't care, ok. Why vent here when we asked you not to do it?

[Robespierre]

At first blush, this sounds like a fun idea: taking pleasure in someone else's misfortune of getting caught. Schadenfreude at its best.

Then, the anonymity of some dumb loser's in-game-name reduces the effect of the shaming, and the forum pillories would only feed the slack-jawed yokels gawking at the little lists.

My final thought is that after being a victim of the "randomized reward" gold purchasing design (thank you 10-crate scam), I am somewhat amused to hear of someone playing three-card-Monte with counterfeit cash. I guess that is the real schadenfreude.

Note: I don't condone cheating, but watching the cheater get cheated has its own ring of justice.

[MENTALLY INCOMPETENT]

It wouldn't work for ONE reason. Those that end up banned, don't or wouldn't care. You see, they don't take this game as seriously as some. You can also bet yourself a vault of the faux yellow stuff, that they have other accounts in the wings or in play. As some might say, one tapper don't stop their show.

Heck, I bet you one mighty sweet lollipop it wouldn't even slow their roll.

Last, but not least, they remain anonymous in the event of this very eventuality. My buddy knows some of them. He says they the ones he knows play it both ways, straight and crooked. They buy the faux yellow stuff and play in straight factions. That's just for appearances. They also have the suspect units deployed in their secret hideouts.

But, if Gree allows it, none of my business. This is Gree's game to do with whatever the like. I'm just a lookie Lou around these parts. I have me a couple low (between 15-25) level accounts. I ain't nobody to tell you somebodies around here nothing.

[Danger Mouse]

It wouldn't work for ONE reason. Those that end up banned, don't or wouldn't care. You see, they don't take this game as seriously as some. You can also bet yourself a vault of the faux yellow stuff, that they have other accounts in the wings or in play. As some might say, one tapper don't stop their show.

heck, I bet it wouldn't even slow their roll.

You're probably right, get one account banned and immediately pick up with another. The list isn't really a major deterrent for the hacker. Getting banned and realising they're onto that particular back door is a better deterrent by far.
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t's more about restoring faith in the process with the law abiding members who currently don't see any concrete activity even though it undoubtedly is happening, and it serves to grind the rumour mill down to a halt. That's its primary purpose.

[MENTALLY INCOMPETENT]

You're probably right, get one account banned and immediately pick up with another. The list isn't really a major deterrent for the hacker. Getting banned and realising they're onto that particular back door is a better deterrent by far.
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t's more about restoring faith in the process with the law abiding members who currently don't see any concrete activity even though it undoubtedly is happening, and it serves to grind the rumour mill down to a halt. That's its primary purpose.

In this case, most of these rumors ain't lies. Oh, the naughty things I've seen.

[Shrinko]

Please don't clutter this post with off topic posts. You don't care, ok. Why vent here when we asked you not to do it?

So people who don't agree with you just clutter your so valuable thread? Why I posted? Because you asked for opinions. You didn't like my opinion? That's too bad. I was just saying that hackers are too small of a problem for most players to focus on it. To post or not to post - I bet you most people don't care. Gree has more important problems and this small stuff is just a distraction

[Chimera]

Please don't clutter this post...

Einstein didn't say it.

[Belle_B]

[QUOTE=Danger Mouse;1335368]Please don't clutter this post with off topic posts. You don't care, ok. Why vent here when we asked you not to do it?[/QUOTE
And your the biggest troll lol
✌️ who cares about hackers!! seriously Hacking is just a drop in bucket to GREE. if they wouldn't screwed people around maybe wouldn't have so much hacking Put GREE on the wall of shame
Wall of shame bahahaha