Tadaah

[SilentAssassin]

SAS booted him on the spot. We have 60 players that can vouch for that and screens of the booting.

We also made it a huge thing and the leader of SAS posted his player booting the player in question in our notifications room.

We made it clear SAS does not tolerate hacking in any way shape or form

[montecore]

If he was fighting and spending gold getting points then he deserves to be credited with those points, after all he used gold to get them, the same as every other player who used gold

After all, isn't that the assumption, that he obtained points by some other means?

If so how many points are in question?

So you won't object if SAS sets up a grid of computers in the next battle, scores at his rate of scoring (16.5m per hour) and see SAS go from zero points to 165m points in the final 5 minutes of the weekend?

I mean, they will still pay for the gold, so that makes it OK, right?

[montecore]

TAW just got robbed. Plain and simple.

Not really. In fact, TAW got lucky. Every other time a hacker has been busted in a syndicate war (HellCalls Group in CC, this past weekend in KA, etc) all of their IP was deducted. TAW is fortunate to still have prizes that only SAS should have received (the first place +2 energy mod).

[montecore]

I have just been informed by a member of SAS that they did report this player to Gree.
If this information is correct, why didnt Gree take any action at the time.
Also when we asked Gree if this player was 'clean' we were assured by Gree that they were.

Pretty sure I told you this last week. Regarding your other questions, you'll have to take those up with Gree.

[Cooler]

So SAS, the team that name means the same as hacking/cheating for this game gets to have Gree go back in time to give them prize but not to take away all prizes from all of there past cheating… Stupid decision like this is why so many are quitting the games and not spending money to Gree anymore!

[Keapa]

Pretty sure I told you this last week. Regarding your other questions, you'll have to take those up with Gree.

If Gree is going to make a stand in regards to hackers suspect accounts etc, then they need to do so when they are informed about any such player.

If for example that player had been reported to Gree a week before a battle , then we ask Gree if there is anything about that account, get told no. We include them in our syndicate in the belief Gree has given then a clean bill of health.
It's a bit late to then arbitrarily decide to change a battle result.
It's not a deliberate act by TAW to obtain an advantage, we fought and obtained what we thought were enough points to win in the belief that all points were rightfully obtained

[Cooler]

If I remember there are posts on forums about Montecoer and SAS hack a "player database" along with Gallery of Rogues to cheat. They admitted it in public so he should be ban in game! Who's know what they use it for to cheat for matches and hacking!

[Keapa]

So you won't object if SAS sets up a grid of computers in the next battle, scores at his rate of scoring (16.5m per hour) and see SAS go from zero points to 165m points in the final 5 minutes of the weekend?

I mean, they will still pay for the gold, so that makes it OK, right?

You could have used a more sensible example : such as
Players who used iPad Air and can go 4 x faster than a player using an iPad 2 creates an inequality in a players ability to obtain points. That both players use gold to get those points is accepted by players

[SilentAssassin]

If Gree is going to make a stand in regards to hackers suspect accounts etc, then they need to do so when they are informed about any such player.

If for example that player had been reported to Gree a week before a battle , then we ask Gree if there is anything about that account, get told no.

You sure about that? Reports indicate you let the player in question provide you with a fake ticket from
GREE (with the wrong date at the top lmao) and you didn't report him yourself even after SAS warned TAW.

So you let the player report himself after SAS told TAW he was booted out of SAS for hacking... During his interview where you could have still denied him access into TAW! Lol

[mxz]

If I remember there are posts on forums about Montecoer and SAS hack a "player database" along with Gallery of Rogues to cheat. They admitted it in public so he should be ban in game! Who's know what they use it for to cheat for matches and hacking!

Let's not get SAS's admitted glitching, admitted hacking into players' accounts and the "database" confused - as they were three separate instances of SAS "not tolerating" cheating.

Edit: to be fair to SAS, I didn't consider their database to be cheating since it didn't provide any sort of meaningful advantage.

[Keapa]

Taddah can you please tell me how many points you are removing from TAW

Thank you in advance

[Keapa]

You sure about that? Reports indicate you let the player in question provide you with a fake ticket from
GREE (with the wrong date at the top lmao) and you didn't report him yourself even after SAS warned TAW.

So you let the player report himself after SAS told TAW he was booted out of SAS for hacking... During his interview where you could have still denied him access into TAW! Lol

Having Monty say. An ex SAS member is a hacker whilst being unable to provide a name, is not much of a warning. Especially when you consider the source

[mxz]

SAS member is a hacker

Seems redundant.

[Zincincpink]

Can we just all agree that both SAS and TAW would report hackers the other team has, but not necessarily report hackers they have?

If it's true that SAS used the hacker for previous battles & TAW used him for this last one then both syndicates are unethical... Give first place to whoever got third lol

[Chuck Finley]

Tam, you're a joke.

Lol. You nailed it!