Well it happens every war. This one was just more dramatic than usual.
Just a thought regarding the player that hacked and was cleared by gree. Lets assume since he was cleared he had never hacked previously and thus TAW did get the all clear.
If player joins a team and decides to hack in such a way that it impacts the team positively during a war or sltq or ??? does it really matter if said player was cleared.. any hacking during events needs handled as hacking.
I guess I am wondering whether it really matters that SAS notified Taw or whether Gree cleared the player. Both of these points are being made repeatedly, but if I read everything clearly the player hacked during the war anyway. How gree handles that seems to be the point of contention not the notification by SAS or the all clear from gree
retired
The hacker hacked. He and his points should be removed from the game, because he cheated to obtain them. If his team is still the winner after the removal of his points, hurrah for them. If not, the next team in line should get the title. *shrug*
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Because it's not been proven that he was a hacker
Yes it has.
You can't ignore the facts Tam. I'm going to repost a convo I had with your colleague HB from another thread I think you are familiar with. I have shut down all his points repeatedly. They are the same as your, and gov's
Here we go....
First thing is first. Learn how to use the "quote" feature.
A: Actually the supporters were from many top 10 syns, ranging to top 1000 syns , and SAS players yes.
So far it's 117 yes- 25 no
20 TAW players + 5 trolls
The main question that is ahead if us really is how many TAW players voted yes in secrecy.
And in addition, Dipstick did do a slightly better job than you.
A: The screens were not fabricated. In fact GREE is able to see where he hit. I've seen the breakdowns when I've personally requested to be refunded gold for getting 3 hits rather than 4 in a fill. They keep track and can cross check. Good try though. GREE didn't just take our word they had an investigation.
Another thing is... And I've explained this before... Tadahh is a median between us and the GREE decision makers. He only presents the decision GREE makes. He has say but it's up to the whole TEAM to decide.
Business 101 HB
I agree it just makes you look bad. No business skills whatsoever and back to one of your first points..you like caramel popcorn. Well I guess it's not that bad but that chocolate popcorn is way better. I have a sweet tooth I admit it ok!
Thank god. We would love to see that email HB. You know plenty SAS officers please show some proof. If you don't want to that's ok too but just makes you look bad especially since SAS has proof on the table and a lot of it.
I do however take your word on it as well.
A: you really need more a reason after seeing him score 1.1M in 4 minutes? Anyways moving on....
1) well it's really a Q Are you saying that the hacker only hacked when we specifically saw him? GREE has more proof than you do after the fact.
2) Should the hacker IP not be zero'd ? His account is banned and no longer active. Why do any of his points count ?
3) You lose by 50 k ip if GREE deducts the hacked IP and still counts remaining IP left over from the player in question or a full deduction of the hacker points and lose by about 4 mil. (125.397 mil - 6 Mil = 119 mil)
There is no in the middle HB. SAS wins either way
We won.
Thanks man, yes we scored 50 mil IP in 2 hours. Was a great run I completely agree with you. Impossible to defend on a working Monday.
One little disagreement there but we were really close to agreement on this one except the end. Because...
It worked.
A: Considering you started your battle with SC with 45 min left in war, with a hacker you can score a lot. 300k ip a minute at any given time if you take a look at the PROOF presented to you that GREE in fact banned him for. 300 k ip a minute is equivalent to a team of 35-40 going all out non stop. He did that all by himself with the click of a button.
We booted him.
You were warned and kept the hacker.
A: that's a big lie. In fact if you want proof we track our battles with TAW. We check periodically when we can.
FYI HB, saying a lie over and over again doesn't make it true.
We've never scored 5 mil in "an impossible amount of time with ridiculous circumstances" when we faced you. In fact could a GREE mod please clear this one up too ? Would be awesome to show the poster HB blatantly lie to the public about something he claimed to see with his own eyes. HB, SAS will show you proof and so can GREE.
Tag team!
If this were true you would not have added him when SAS warned you, even if you say GREE cleared it
0 tolerance is 0 tolerance.
Why are you taking a risk on a player like that when the almighty TAW can fill a spot no problem and also hypothetically fill a spot after a hacker has been banned?
A: Stop denying that you had a hacker. GREE banned him. You are in your denial phase. There are no "ifs". Those screens were taken at the END of the SAS VS TAW battle showing the player in question scoring 1.1 mil IP in the final 4 minutes of the battle. We lead most of the battle by 900k -1.1 mil ip and then magically at the end of battle you came within 400 k ip of us. We were shocked how close you got. With our win bonus we scored 25+ mil that battle too but take away the win bonus and it was dead close. The hacker is clearly shown in the screens going up 300 k ip per minute consistently, starting at about the 3 min and 45 second mark to the end of battle and scoring 1.1+ Mil. Trying to catch us himself.
You shouldn't argue against clear cut proof HB makes your case look weak
*Silent Assassins are Recruiting*
SAS1: 500k+T1+Full Streaks+Undefeated Last War
SASII: 275k+T3&4+Full Streaks+Undefeated Last War
SASIII: 125K+T10+Wins
SAS4: T50
We have a spot for almost every type of player out there
Gree did not say he was a hacker, that was a sas allegation.
*Silent Assassins are Recruiting*
SAS1: 500k+T1+Full Streaks+Undefeated Last War
SASII: 275k+T3&4+Full Streaks+Undefeated Last War
SASIII: 125K+T10+Wins
SAS4: T50
We have a spot for almost every type of player out there
Any way, I think I shall go back to CC and kill some raid bosses
*Silent Assassins are Recruiting*
SAS1: 500k+T1+Full Streaks+Undefeated Last War
SASII: 275k+T3&4+Full Streaks+Undefeated Last War
SASIII: 125K+T10+Wins
SAS4: T50
We have a spot for almost every type of player out there
This player was "banned for life", yes?
In my experience, there are precious few "crimes" a player can commit to earn a permanent ban hammer. If GREE is like other game companies, cheating/hacking is usually one of the biggest no-nos, right behind committing real life harm to another player.
Hmmm...
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Life bans can become short term bans.
Just because someone states numbers, it doesn't make them true.
Tam, your numbers are incorrect. GREE knows the proof, as most of the cc community that is following this.
Lmao, still in denial of the numbers?
The sad part is that you are being kept in the dark by your "officers"